I am saying they don't exist. this is precisely why I call you a coward.
You are making the claim to the board. I am just the one calling oyu on it. How do you think this makes you look to anyone else who is reading this? You don't care about EVERYONE else either? Then why did you make the claim in the first place?
Someone willing to lie to try and assert authority such as you should understand full well why there is skepticism towards the bible.
Ah, yes hermeneutics. It has no application to us at all. Uh, huh. This is where your carnal mind fails you. The scriptures have to align. One cannot obey God over ANY human authority and then be subject to all human authority. There is no schism. It is the difference between a carnal, stupid man like you, and a spiritual, intelligent (because "the Holy Spirit leads us to all truth") man like me. Lower authority. Higher authority. Keep up, dummy. Come on. You can do it. Well, probably not.
My claims about scripture have nothing to do with my background. The two are not related other than I have the carnal background to go toe-to-toe with any of you. Be like the Bereans and search the scriptures to see if I am telling the truth. If God wants you to accept the truth you will see it. Who I am or what I do has no bearing on my authority regarding the scriptures.
then the Byzantine text and everything subsequent is called into question considering Constantine founded the Byzantine Empire ie the eastern roman empire. you really don't know outside of your box and it's funny
andat this:
Your narcissism is a sight to behold.Constantine was just as screwed up as the Catholic Church, any Protestant faith, and all evangelists.
They have existed since they were written. We have them now. You can say what you want. Calling a donkey a duck doesn't make it quack, bubba. You are just a pathetic little man with zero spiritual insight and minimal intellect. People would listen to you at great peril.
And yet the scriptures we have, that you claim he commissioned, disprove virtually everything you say he enacted. Looks like God was a little smarter than him and is a lot smarter than you. (And again, I think the BMT is better, but nobody is using it right now so put your strawman away.) Come on, loser. Keep up. (Are you tired of getting your ass kicked yet?)
Ihave searched the scriptures and didn't find them. You are unable to show them so yeah. Remember how I keep pointing out how you do is make claims and never back them up? More of the same it seems.
You are the one that brought up those things, doubled down on it with the Saudi royal bull and it certainly speaks to your credibility. You have none because of it. Posture some more about how you don't care you cannot prove you are not a liar.
More posturing? You should realize by now it has no effect on me.
You just everything from Constantine is flawed. Now you are saying the Byzantine works are better. You seem incapable of drawing the obvious conclusion. You can lead a horse to water I guess.
I've made them throughout this thread and in the other about Duncan. It isn't my fault that you can't read. Maybe you should get a tutor to go back to page one of this thread and read every post I have made. At some point you might stumble across a thing or two I have posted that includes at least a brace or two of scripture passages. Another lie by you. Keep 'em coming.
I say they don't exist.
You say they do.
When I ask for you to produce them, you cannot but instead insult my intelligence. Who the do you think buys that horse ?
The Byzantine texts are more faithful to the original in my opinion. I am saying everything in Christianity is flawed because they cannot even follow the scriptures as they are at present. I don't get why this is so hard to get through your thick skull. And the notion that Constantine is the one who copied the texts and then changed them to suit his needs is laughable. Where's the proof of that? You like to posture yourself quite a lot, but you don't know a f***ing thing about any of this except what you got spoonfed by some lowly graduate assistant.More posturing? You should realize by now it has no effect on me.
You just everything from Constantine is flawed. Now you are saying the Byzantine works are better. You seem incapable of drawing the obvious conclusion. You can lead a horse to water I guess.
They don't exist yet we have them published all over the place. Non-existent. Uh....huh.... Stupid idiot. Prove they're illegit. Go ahead and try.
It should be an easy thing to demonstratively show me that I am wrong and put it to bed yet you don't do it. It's no wonder why that is.
I'm not typing the same things over and over again. You have been told where to find it. Anyone else who cares to know truth can look as well. I am not doing your homework for you any longer.
I can no longer try and have a serious conversation with you and can now only mock you. There would be nothing good in that. I have tried to talk about the early early church and surrounding history. I have tried to talk about the differences between Paul, Peter and Jesus. All you do is call me stupid and claim to have kicked my ass. This is a colossal waste of time.
You call what you have been doing "serious conversation"??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's all you have been doing is mocking, you fool!
I can no longer try and have a serious conversation with you and can now only mock you. There would be nothing good in that. I have tried to talk about the early early church and surrounding history. I have tried to talk about the differences between Paul, Peter and Jesus. All you do is call me stupid and claim to have kicked my ass. This is a colossal waste of time.
It was foretold.
You like to talk about KNOWING THIS FIRST (which you still got wrong but I digress)...
Funny how you missed this when it was about you:
3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” 5For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
8But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. 9The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. - 2 Peter 3
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There is Christ's Church and there is everything else (Constantine, Catholicism, Protestantism, Mormonism, ad nauseum. Try and figure out how this fits in with the parable about the Tower of Babel and you might buy a clue.) The Heavenly church and the earthly church. Children of God and children of the devil. Good trees and bad trees. New wine and old wine. Spiritual and carnal. It is pretty basic.
The Catholic Church can't be truthful because they think Mary is a deity, are not few, do not allow priests to marry, and threw people out of the faith for believing in things so stupid as the Earth orbiting the sun.
All the other denominations have their own flaws. Belief in the trinity or hing alone is enough to discredit those faiths.
Yet through it all, God's word somehow made it through all of that, and the liars of the NIV, the KJV, the NLT, you name it.........and a blessed few of us can find the truth. "FEW THERE BE THAT *FIND* IT." It sure doesn't come from your pastor because he doesn't know. Doesn't come from seminary because they can't even get marriage straight. And it sure doesn't come from that liar making merchandise of you on TV.
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But Peter and the apostles replied, "We must obey God rather than any human authority." - Acts 5:29
“Tell us by what authority you do these things, or who it is that gave you this authority.” 3He answered them, “I also will ask you a question. Now tell me, 4was the baptism of John from heaven or from man?” 5And they discussed it with one another, saying, “If we say, ‘From heaven,’ he will say, ‘Why did you not believe him?’ 6But if we say, ‘From man,’ all the people will stone us to death, for they are convinced that John was a prophet.” 7So they answered that they did not know where it came from. 8And Jesus said to them, “Neither will I tell you by what authority I do these things.” - Luke 20
Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you. - us 2:15
One day some teachers of religious law and Pharisees came to Jesus and said, “Teacher, we want you to show us a miraculous sign to prove your authority.”
39But Jesus replied, “Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a miraculous sign; but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for three days and three nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights. - Matthew 12
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." - Matthew 28
Testing him, they demanded that he show them a miraculous sign from heaven to prove his authority. - Mark 8
Sounds awful familiar....
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the clip with that banana dude and Kirk Cameron is absolutely HOF worthy.
No beef with a fairy tale.
Beef is with Christian nuts pushing public policy....keeping society from moving forward.
T L : D N R. I am sure it is safe to say I don't believe in any of that stuff without going through it. Too much to do today. (I like Lewis Black's take on the Bible.) Fossil! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g
That makes no sense. You've contradicted yourself from post #1 in this thread with "the scripture is unbroken unless I say I can break it".
I gave you my opinion after you asked for it. Stop dancing around and give your opinion on the afterlife.
Yes, like post on Spurstalk and look up YouTubes.
Why are you so scared about sharing your after life opinion?
Just because you repeat a lie doesn't make it true, numbnuts. The scriptures interpret themselves. They give all the rules for doing so. It isn't my fault you are completely unaware of these or reject them no matter how many times they have been shown to you. You don't have to believe in God or any of that, but if you are going to interpret scriptures objectively then you have to use the rules they lay out for themselves. To do anything else is disingenuous at best. Also, your original question has been answered resoundingly and with clarity. It is also irrelevant to the truth of the Gospel. I told you, we're done. Still can't read I see. Nothing new there.
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Except when the scripture's rules and laws aren't really rules and laws.
Just because you repeat yourself doesn't make it any less contradictory.
Still waiting on your opinion of the after life.
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