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    Seriously I don't see any cups on the table, that entire two liter is just her dinner beverage. so ing disgusting, that's like half a bag of sugar right there
    You know it is because the big one has her own bottle too

    The look of excitement on the big one's face as she's opening up the ranch dressing is pretty hilarious. Methinks that entire thing of ranch was a gonner by the time they finished dinner

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    The chick drinking the coke is fat but god lawd the woman with the ranch in her hand is an abomination.

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    rofl @ "the big one." How ing fat do you have to be to be in a room with that coke guzzling fat and she's not "the big one"

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    How the can these obese people afford all of this food when most of them can't even get out of bed? Not trying to be a but have you all seen those shows where they eat like 10 eggs, 8 pieces of toast, and like 16 sausage links for breakfast?

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    this is what I'm talking about. The proper amount of vegetables, lean meat and eggs/milk has more than enough protein to "conserve" muscle. As you said, they've got plenty of muscle from carrying their fatass around for years. They don't need to be sucking down protein shakes that people use to "bulk" up.
    Nah, bro. Powdered whey protein mixed with water is like 200-300 calories max. As long as that is fitted into your calorie amount you are using to diet, using whey is actually a good thing. The basic idea behind it is that the weight youll lose is actual fat while muscle is preserved. You could eat that protein by eating stuff like you mentioned as well but its unlikely those things would only be 200-300 calories.

    Not to that degree. If you are going up and down like that in the space of months it puts a major tax on your liver and kidneys. It's really not good for you at all. If you drink on top of that then you can guess its going to be worse. Your talking about gaining and losing 25% of your bodymass.
    235 is the most Ive gotten up to tbh. Its normally less, maybe like a 20-25 weight increase. Not every couple of months either, usually once maybe twice a year. Is that still unhealthy ?

    5'9" 235?


    you fat. There's nothing even remotely "normal" about 50 lb weight fluctuations. You need to quit worrying about "maintaining" muscle and counting daily grams of Gold Standard. Just find that treadmill.
    5'11'' tbh

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    235 is the most Ive gotten up to tbh. Its normally less, maybe like a 20-25 weight increase. Not every couple of months either, usually once maybe twice a year. Is that still unhealthy ?



    5'11'' tbh

    Dude, yes that's unhealthy....your weight isn't supposed to fluctuate like that....it's awful on your heart among other things, but that's sort of an important organ.

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    Yeah, you ain't Val Kilmer, fatty.

    At least he got paid to pork out.

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    235 is the most Ive gotten up to tbh. Its normally less, maybe like a 20-25 weight increase. Not every couple of months either, usually once maybe twice a year. Is that still unhealthy ?
    I'm not a doctor but as a general rule yo-yoing your weight is not good. It's happening yearly? Is it just adding weight during the holidays typically? I would see a doctor and ask were I you.

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    Same here fkla, I range from 185 to 220. Changes yearly since as far back as I can remember.

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    Y'all some fat es.

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    Same here fkla, I range from 185 to 220. Changes yearly since as far back as I can remember.
    Yup 5'10" 225. I called it.

    And if you indeed are 22 then you are going to be one fat mother er soon. Best get you a 2 liter of coke.

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    6'1

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    You'll be 6'8" in a few more posts.

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    Winter break sometimes, summer always when I'm not in school. Never thought much about the weight gain since it's always easy for me to lose it back tbh.

    Good looking out though, s. I probably should give my doctor a call about it.

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    There is no reason to argue strongly for weights or cardio exclusively, because if you really want solid results you are doing both pretty equally. The only time I did more cardio than weights is when I was race training(was doing circuits, running and spinning). Now I'm back lifting heavy again but I'm still spinning three times a week. I've continued building muscle but shed fat and tightened down a lot.

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    Hate to make you look dumb(again) benefactor but you cannot shed fat and build muscle at the same time tbh.

    Either or both combined work. Stationary or not, lifting is still an intense workout that gets your heart pumping. Diet is about 100 times more important that method of exercising though.

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    ...ok

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    Can you build muscle and shed fat ?

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    I'm not having this conversation with you, because you have already proven you have no idea what the you are talking about when it comes to training.

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    How have I proven that?

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    im 4lbs over my BMI

    lol

    guess im fat....

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    what the is gold standard?
    dat der Gold Standard



    I will quickly go through this thread and address some interesting comments I observed:


    I just eat whatever the I want and then lift like crazy and it turns into muscle. so overeating works out good for me. Best of both worlds..eat like a fatass but can still make fun of them
    The only thing that "turns" into muscle is protein. If you eat like a fatass but get about 1g of protein per pound of lean body mass, then you'll be able to gain muscle. You'll also need to do cardio to burn the extra calories. Unless you're fat, odds are you probably don't eat as much as most fatasses, you just eat ty food.


    Which obese people actually have alot of under their fat since theyre forced to carry around so much weight for years.
    I love how fat people try to convince themselves there is a Ronnie Coleman under here:

    Yeah people with your genetics are the type where it makes sense (I'm not one of those people). If you're thin, have a garbage disposal for a metabolism that keeps you toned, but also makes it extremely hard for you to build muscle, then whey protein serves a purpose.

    Someone like me who has a slower metabolism and has a much easier time adding bulk than he does getting toned shouldn't be following the same diet plan as someone who's his genetic opposite
    The argument you're making is somewhat confusing. You're right that it's stupid to "bulk" when trying to lose weight. That makes absolutely no sense and I've never heard of such a thing. Bulking done right is really just an excess of 500-800 calories based on your daily maintenance calorie totals. But what most people actually do is eat like for 3 months and call it bulking. Whey protein, or protein in general, has nothing to do with bulking until it's taken in excess of your maintenance totals. In the short-term, your body doesn't know the difference between 100 grams of protein from whey supplements, or 100 grams of protein from chicken breasts. In the long-term, your body will not function optimally off straight protein supplements, because it needs the other vitamins and nutrients in real food and vegetables. But supplements are still a solid way of getting your daily protein totals if you don't have the $$$ for steaks.

    It is actually a very good way of distributing your macronutrients. As long as it is mixed in water, it is a very low calorie meal supplement. It is also very economical with 50 cents buying ~20 grams of protein if you shop correctly.
    Agreed.

    Focusing on cardio is not optimal for weight loss. Building muscle has extremely beneficial long term effects for maintaining weight loss because it adds to your base metabolic rate.
    Cutting calories is the optimal way to lose weight. Adding muscle is good in theory, but if fatties can't be trusted to not pick up that Honey Bun, do you really expect them to hit the gym doing power cleans? Most likely they're going to go to the gym and waste their time doing lifts that waste their time. It's easier to tell someone to get on a treadmill. You can't do that wrong. You're right though, that if you have the proper diet, you really have no need for ANY cardio. The best bodies you see at the gym, beach, wherever, don't rely on cardio as much as most people think. The best workouts actually involve no cardio at all. I do it because I enjoy it, but it's not necessary when my diet is right. In the real world it's not always easy to cut out the excess so cardio helps balance that.

    Same here fkla, I range from 185 to 220. Changes yearly since as far back as I can remember.
    That's fat bro.

    Hate to make you look dumb(again) benefactor but you cannot shed fat and build muscle at the same time tbh.

    Either or both combined work. Stationary or not, lifting is still an intense workout that gets your heart pumping. Diet is about 100 times more important that method of exercising though.
    Yes you can. It's just difficult because it involves meticulous work balancing daily calories, grams fat, grams protein, grams carbs, salt totals, etc. It's also slow process so people give up. Most people that are obsessed with working out/lifting, balance those things anyway though (along with their anabolics).



    Basically what I'm trying to say here is that Robdiaz is a fatty. and FkLa is borderline morbidly obese for 6 months out of every year.

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    Agreed with your points, tbh, but I disagree with lifters that don't do cardio, and I know plenty of them..guys that become mass and have impressive body fat/aesthetics, but they come play basketball and can't play longer than 10 minutes, tbh..

    You definitely don't need cardio to get cut, if you have built muscle and eat properly, getting in aesthetically pleasing shape is easily possible without cardio, but it's a bad idea IMO..it's good for your heart and allows you to increase mobility, which is the look most s are going for these days(especially with the crossfit trend)..I don't see as many mountainous s without mobility as I did 5 years ago, tbh..


    I also wouldn't recommend trying to gain muscle/lose fat at the same time for anybody, tbh..like Jag said, it involves way too much detail..I've been slow bulking(+10% over maintenance) for the last few months, and while the results have been good, I've had to keep track of my calories every day + use the proper macros + using a nutrition par ioner(M Stak) so I can gain a minimal amount of fat with my muscle..it's gruelling and mentally exhausting to constantly follow your foods and be conscious of your intake, tbh..

    It's easier to bulk for 3 months and lift hard, try to eat well and mostly clean without having to thoroughly analyze your macros, and then follow up with a traditional cutting cycle, tbh..don't indulge in excessive bulking, but don't take the task of constantly following macros..

    Counting your calories/macros is by far the most effective method for getting in optimal shape IMO, but most people give up on it after a few days, from my experience..
    Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 10-20-2013 at 11:22 AM.

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    And ya, I disagree with Dok about Whey as well..I've been bulking on 3000 calories per day, and 600 of those calories come from Whey, it's difficult and expensive to amass 3000 calories with just actual food, tbh..

    But like I've said many times, guys that over-bulk and look "beefy" don't look aesthetic IMO..

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    And ya, I disagree with Dok about Whey as well..I've been bulking on 3000 calories per day, and 600 of those calories come from Whey, it's difficult and expensive to amass 3000 calories with just actual food, tbh..

    But like I've said many times, guys that over-bulk and look "beefy" don't look aesthetic IMO..
    Well people trying to lose weight shouldn't be eating 3,000 calories a day

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