Atheist LOL

[xmas1997]

If you were a true theist, you would act like God it watching you. You don't. I draw the only logical conclusion.

You have a valid point there.

[silverblk mystix]

Belief isn't a choice. It's something that's compelled by overwhelming evidence. You can no sooner choose to believe something than you can choose to not believe it. Let's see you not believe the Sun exists. Those who can make themselves believe things without compelling evidence are considered to be delusional.

The choice you do have, however, is to try to believe. That's what many theists are doing. They are either too lazy to learn otherwise or they are to frightened to draw the only logical conclusion available, that there is no god.

Let us call a spade a spade =

What YOU mean in that line - is evidence that YOU find compelling. Evidence that YOU believe to be true.

You are just giving an opinion - yet - you think because you used logic that this makes it more than an opinion -it isn't.

It is still an opinion.

[Clipper Nation]

So you believe that calling someone a beener is less offensive than calling someone a got?

I don't care, really, though it is hilarious how you try to be the arbiter of morality on here but default to the same tired old gay/cuck jokes whenever you feel threatened or are backed into a corner

You believe that calling someone stupid - and then claiming you are more educated - makes sense?

False dilemma - it's possible to be educated and call a stupid person stupid, tbh....

You believe that following people around and standing up for them and fighting their battles - and then turning around and calling others a "semen shield" is not hypocrisy?

I don't fight anyone's battles - I call you a hypocrite because I read your posts, and I tell you when you're melting down because you do it constantly, tbh....

Meanwhile, whenever Avante's getting rightfully shat on in here for another stupid thread, pointless trivia spam, or clueless boast, in you come to defend him pretty much every time to defend and deflect, and vice versa

Instead you gang up with other like-minded hypocrites and try to get that person banned

It's amazing how you've managed to twist the simple act of answering Kori's question into everyone "ganging up on you" - nobody forced you to melt down and get yourself banned, son, take some responsibility

[DMC]

Let us call a spade a spade =

What YOU mean in that line - is evidence that YOU find compelling. Evidence that YOU believe to be true.

You are just giving an opinion - yet - you think because you used logic that this makes it more than an opinion -it isn't.

It is still an opinion.

If belief is a choice, why would I need compelling evidence? I could just choose to believe something, anything, and that would be that.

[silverblk mystix]

Non-informational paragraph. Character judgement, nothing else.


Absolutely untrue. You are a great example of this. You see who posted the post - you form a conclusion -
"this was written by a (insert label - mostly a negative label) and he is full of (insert more labels) ..."
- ??you haven't even posted yet - and you have already concluded that this person is wrong -Could there be anything more blind that this? Could you possibly ever see any new information if you already concluded that you are right and this person is beneath you? No - my statement stands and is irrefutable.

More non-informational gibberish. Again - you fit the paragraph as well as many others in here - yet - you do not see it, refuse to see it, or are completely being dishonest just because you aren't open enough to accept any new information.


Again...


Not a single word of anything you wrote has a point to it. It's all mumbo jumbo someone sold you and you drank the koolaid. How's your god Tom Cruise btw?

??Everything I wrote is truth and nothing but. I didn't invent it. It has been staring at you all this time but you are too busy seeing the world through your filters that you are rejecting obvious and self-evident truth. In other words - you are choosing to believe that what is in front of you and is in fact reality - does not exist.

Ironic - especially after the other post you posted regarding "belief"

[silverblk mystix]

If belief is a choice, why would I need compelling evidence? I could just choose to believe something, anything, and that would be that.

Because you just wrote this, maybe?

Belief isn't a choice. It's something that's compelled by overwhelming evidence. You can no sooner choose to believe something than you can choose to not believe it. Let's see you not believe the Sun exists. Those who can make themselves believe things without compelling evidence are considered to be delusional.

The choice you do have, however, is to try to believe. That's what many theists are doing. They are either too lazy to learn otherwise or they are to frightened to draw the only logical conclusion available, that there is no god.

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[silverblk mystix]

If you're going to claim someone is a hypocrite then you're going to need to prove it.

Otherwise, you should just shut the up. For your own good, tbh.

Or else?

[xmas1997]

If belief is a choice, why would I need compelling evidence? I could just choose to believe something, anything, and that would be that.

All belief is a choice, irregardless of its validity or not. Truth on the other hand is an entirely different matter.
For example, you can CHOOSE to believe I am a troll as you said in the other thread, but just because you chose to believe that, does not make it a truth, it is merely your opinion, and opinions cannot be proved one way or the other.

However BELIEF connotes an action that is taken each and every moment. You may wake up tomorrow and believe something entirely different than what you believe today, i.e. that I am not a troll.
You have to actively get involved to make the decision to BELIEVE anything at any point in time. And still, it is simply an opinion. On the other hand, truth always is true and is firmly outside of opinion. Yet you can have opinions about what you choose to believe as being truth, even if it isn't.

Furthermore, unless you are in actuality inside another persons mind, then you cannot KNOW their belief at that given moment, rather you are just guessing and thus assuming. There is much more la ude that you will be wrong in your assessment.

Truth is not true just because you say it is, nor just because the majority believes it is, thus the flat earth analogy that I gave you. Truth is true simply on its own merit. And most of the time stares us right in the face, yet we choose (free will again) to believe, or choose to believe, whatever fits our agendas at any given moment.
And if it doesn't conveniently fit neatly in our own self constructed little boxes, then we can choose again to disregard it, ....... or accept it, yet again.

Belief is not necessarily TRUTH.
Belief is only the action of acceptance of something, and thus falls into the category of opinion.
You are free to believe I am a troll, however just because you happen to believe that, does not make it so.

[Blake]

Or else?

Or else someone will call you on your stupid bull and you'll in turn melt down.

You should stop for your own emotional well being.

[xmas1997]

Or else someone will call you on your stupid bull and you'll in turn melt down.

You should stop for your own emotional well being.

Blake, you should really get off of SBMs ass simply because you choose to believe something different than him.
It would help matters if you could look at things with an open mind.
We learn things from the least likeliest sources sometimes.
And no matter how young or old we are, we never stop learning, unless we are brain dead, yet the jury is out on that issue too.
Melt downs are a matter of opinion, not truth. However you have a free will and may choose to believe that any of us are melting down at any point in time. Still, that does not make it true. It is purely your opinion.
So, why fight wars over opinions? Isn't that a bit fruitless?
Just asking.

[silverblk mystix]

Or else someone will call you on your stupid bull and you'll in turn melt down.

You should stop for your own emotional well being.

So, in other words - nothing.

lol

[silverblk mystix]

Blake, you should really get off of SBMs ass simply because you choose to believe something different than him.
It would help matters if you could look at things with an open mind.
We learn things from the least likeliest sources sometimes.
And no matter how young or old we are, we never stop learning, unless we are brain dead, yet the jury is out on that issue too.
Melt downs are a matter of opinion, not truth. However you have a free will and may choose to believe that any of us are melting down at any point in time. Still, that does not make it true. It is purely your opinion.
So, why fight wars over opinions? Isn't that a bit fruitless?
Just asking.

Hey careful now xmas -


you keep bringing that "truth" thing in here and you won't be making many friends in here. That "truth" thing is really a dangerous and inflammatory thing, people have gotten hurt pretty badly throughout history - some even crucified -

All for throwing that "truth" thing around!


Just keep making sense in here and you will be an outcast in no time with a target on your back.

[xmas1997]

Hey careful now xmas -


you keep bringing that "truth" thing in here and you won't be making many friends in here. That "truth" thing is really a dangerous and inflammatory thing, people have gotten hurt pretty badly throughout history - some even crucified -

All for throwing that "truth" thing around!


Just keep making sense in here and you will be an outcast in no time with a target on your back.

Oh well, it is what it is. Can't change the spots on a leopard at this stage of the game, even if I wanted to.
And according to DMC I am already a troll, all because I tried to open his mind a little bit, and even though I agreed with a few of his points.
So may as well let it all hang out at this point.
At the very most, I might learn something. And at the very least, I'll get a little humor out of it.
So if that happens, it wasn't a total waste of time.

[kamikazi_player]

I'm not even atheist and I still think this thread is ing re ed

[xmas1997]

I'm not even atheist and I still think this thread is ing re ed

Why is that?

[DMC]

Because you just wrote this, maybe?

Belief isn't a choice. It's something that's compelled by overwhelming evidence. You can no sooner choose to believe something than you can choose to not believe it. Let's see you not believe the Sun exists. Those who can make themselves believe things without compelling evidence are considered to be delusional.

The choice you do have, however, is to try to believe. That's what many theists are doing. They are either too lazy to learn otherwise or they are to frightened to draw the only logical conclusion available, that there is no god.

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Your argument is that I use my own standards for proof for what I think someone else should accept as proof, but then if belief is by choice, what standards could I have? Food is a choice, I don't mention what standards others should have when deciding what to eat. You don't decide what to believe, you only decide what to try to believe and that almost always means it's not logical and/or there's not compelling evidence to believe it, but there might be a benefit to doing so.

[DMC]

All belief is a choice, irregardless of its validity or not. Truth on the other hand is an entirely different matter.
For example, you can CHOOSE to believe I am a troll as you said in the other thread, but just because you chose to believe that, does not make it a truth, it is merely your opinion, and opinions cannot be proved one way or the other.

However BELIEF connotes an action that is taken each and every moment. You may wake up tomorrow and believe something entirely different than what you believe today, i.e. that I am not a troll.
You have to actively get involved to make the decision to BELIEVE anything at any point in time. And still, it is simply an opinion. On the other hand, truth always is true and is firmly outside of opinion. Yet you can have opinions about what you choose to believe as being truth, even if it isn't.

Furthermore, unless you are in actuality inside another persons mind, then you cannot KNOW their belief at that given moment, rather you are just guessing and thus assuming. There is much more la ude that you will be wrong in your assessment.

Truth is not true just because you say it is, nor just because the majority believes it is, thus the flat earth analogy that I gave you. Truth is true simply on its own merit. And most of the time stares us right in the face, yet we choose (free will again) to believe, or choose to believe, whatever fits our agendas at any given moment.
And if it doesn't conveniently fit neatly in our own self constructed little boxes, then we can choose again to disregard it, ....... or accept it, yet again.

Belief is not necessarily TRUTH.
Belief is only the action of acceptance of something, and thus falls into the category of opinion.
You are free to believe I am a troll, however just because you happen to believe that, does not make it so.

per say and irregardless

Enough said

[FuzzyLumpkins]

at you of all people trying to take some grand moral stance against insults while spewing slurs and insults in other threads....

Much like SA210, there is no point in talking with sbm. They have no interest in anything other than you agreeing with them or going around in the same inane circles.

[Blake]

So, in other words - nothing.

lol

No, the something is you melting down over and again.

It can't be good for you.

[xmas1997]

Much like SA210, there is no point in talking with sbm. They have no interest in anything other than you agreeing with them or going around in the same inane circles.

Apparently you have SBM and DMC mixed up. DMC had no intention of a constructive discussion, he just wanted a reason to cry "TROLL", and when I didn't give him one, he lost interest.
However SBM will actually discuss things with you and debate in a rational manner.
Unless you resort to insults and ridicule then he will respond in kind. If you don't neither will he.

[silverblk mystix]

Much like SA210, there is no point in talking with sbm. They have no interest in anything other than you agreeing with them or going around in the same inane circles.

There is no point - if you want to be stubbornly dishonest.

If you want to be truthful - just open your eyes and see-

the people that go on about insulting others and acting superior - in any subject -

Are no better and no worse than anyone else - so to hear you and your e-gang go on and on about how (insert poster's name) and (insert poster's name) are nothing but (insert labels) and (insert labels) is the height of hypocrisy because you do so much judging, condescending & insulting and labeling while calling out others.

It is so freeing to be able to admit that you are no better than anyone else. I admit it all the time and I have no baggage to carry - and feel so light that I can go through the eye of a needle. (gratuitous bible content reference intended)

It is wonderful.

[silverblk mystix]

Apparently you have SBM and DMC mixed up. DMC had no intention of a constructive discussion, he just wanted a reason to cry "TROLL", and when I didn't give him one, he lost interest.
However SBM will actually discuss things with you and debate in a rational manner.
Unless you resort to insults and ridicule then he will respond in kind. If you don't neither will he.

Ding! Ding! Ding!


Winner-winner Chicken Dinner!

[Blake]

Blake, you should really get off of SBMs ass simply because you choose to believe something different than him.
It would help matters if you could look at things with an open mind.
We learn things from the least likeliest sources sometimes.
And no matter how young or old we are, we never stop learning, unless we are brain dead, yet the jury is out on that issue too.
Melt downs are a matter of opinion, not truth. However you have a free will and may choose to believe that any of us are melting down at any point in time. Still, that does not make it true. It is purely your opinion.
So, why fight wars over opinions? Isn't that a bit fruitless?
Just asking.

SBM has claimed spiritual truth as concrete truth.

I've asked for proof. He literally has told me I need to look inside myself to see his truth.

Stating opinion as just your opinion is one thing. Claiming something as fact is completely different.

He'd prefer to cry that I'm being mean for calling bull instead of backing up his claim or using the letters "imo".

You should stop crying on his behalf. There are already too many tears shed in this forum of late.

[Blake]

However SBM will actually discuss things with you and debate in a rational manner.

[Blake]

??Everything I wrote is truth and nothing but. I didn't invent it. It has been staring at you all this time but you are too busy seeing the world through your filters that you are rejecting obvious and self-evident truth. In other words - you are choosing to believe that what is in front of you and is in fact reality - does not exist.

Ironic - especially after the other post you posted regarding "belief"

Ok, prove that it's the truth.



Now xmas, watch what happens here.