Lakers: :wow MVPau

[ambchang]

Kobe obsessed is what i read out of this thread. Would be awesome if yall really did admire Pau's game as much as you pretend in this thread ...
But i saw the Real feelings when the Pau is now better than Dirk/Tim duncan threads ...

It's only to get at Achilles that yall suck at Pau's ...and we(most of us) know it. It used to bug me the MVPau stuff ... but now it just makes me laugh these weak attempts at subtle and not so subtle Kobe bashing. Especially my boy Amb (great troll job btw) at least Harlem, Lefty and Mid freely admit their hate and do not try to hide behind some outrage at how Pau is treated in L.A.

Don't be mad KK81, we are just calling as it is. We don't bash leaders of b2b championships.

And this year, so far, a lot of players are playing better than Duncan, MVPau is actually one of them despite how much he's sucking so far. It says more about how Duncan has been playing than how MVPau has been playing though. Interestingly though, both seems to be turning the corner lately, so we'll see. But if Duncan's worst seasons by far is worst than a below average season from MVPau, we know how good Duncan is.

[AchillesHeel]

Nono's threads never fail, dumb lakerfans keep taking the bait

poster of the year

[spurraider21]

Pau is great but Duncan is top 5 all time

[Suspect]

Lefty avoiding this thread now tbh

[ElNono]

Kobe's offense is still elite which makes up for his defensive shortcomings. Gasol putting up 14 PPG on 14 FGA and shooting 42% from the field while opposing big men have career games is not "putting in work at both ends" son.

Kobe's defense is the reason the team didn't reach .500 till March. Who are you kidding?

Are you saying that when the best player on the team in Kobe's absence doesn't show up and shoots bricks all night long, the Lakers chances of getting the win drop significantly?

Wow... shocking revelation, you sir are a visionary. You should be sitting next to Simmons and Magic imho.

then why do you keep arguing if it's so obvious??? I wasn't the one advancing that MVPau is getting carried by scrubs...

The fact that this Lakers team still managed to get multiple wins this season with Gasol shooting so poorly and playing little to no defense must be mind blowing for you.

Another interesting stat, when Kobe doesn't play, not coincidentally, Gasol never won a single playoff game.

Except that in those wins MVPau did play solid defense, grabbed double-digit rebounds, and in two out of the three cases, posted a double-double, in many cases the only one on the team to do it.

It's not me ting on your silly arguments... it's MVPau, tbh...

[Killakobe81]

Don't be mad KK81, we are just calling as it is. We don't bash leaders of b2b championships.

And this year, so far, a lot of players are playing better than Duncan, MVPau is actually one of them despite how much he's sucking so far. It says more about how Duncan has been playing than how MVPau has been playing though. Interestingly though, both seems to be turning the corner lately, so we'll see. But if Duncan's worst seasons by far is worst than a below average season from MVPau, we know how good Duncan is.

Who is mad ish is funny at this point ... was quite clever of you and El back in the day ...

[midnightpulp]

I admire Nono and Amb's trolling in this thread, but "MVPau" is done.

Now, I'm not sure if that's an indictment on him or how the league has dramatically changed in the last 3 years. Bigmen don't (and can't) really dominate offensively like they used to with the way the game is called (you can take a big's head off and he probably doesn't go to the line) and the changes in offensive philosophy that values floor spacing above all else, which requires a big to be more of a jumpshooter now.

The game has changed, people. Dramatically.

The traditional low post bigman will all but be extinct in 5 years.

[ambchang]

The numbers back us up though. WS, w/l records with vs without Kobe vs MVPau , historical numbers all point to MVPau being MVPau.

[Andy]

The numbers back us up though. WS, w/l records with vs without Kobe vs MVPau , historical numbers all point to MVPau being MVPau.

If Gasol's impact is that great, how do you explain his mediocre playoff record (0-16) without Kobe?

[irishock]

"MVPau" is done.

Everyone knows that... Lakerfans just keep taking the bait

[ElNono]

I admire Nono and Amb's trolling in this thread, but "MVPau" is done.

Now, I'm not sure if that's an indictment on him or how the league has dramatically changed in the last 3 years. Bigmen don't (and can't) really dominate offensively like they used to with the way the game is called (you can take a big's head off and he probably doesn't go to the line) and the changes in offensive philosophy that values floor spacing above all else, which requires a big to be more of a jumpshooter now.

The game has changed, people. Dramatically.

The traditional low post bigman will all but be extinct in 5 years.

MVPau clearly misses Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher's leadership... it's pretty obvious, tbh... he always won at least one playoff game with those two being part of the team...

That said, MVPau never missed the playoffs in his prime... a trait all great players have, tbh...

[ambchang]

If Gasol's impact is that great, how do you explain his mediocre playoff record (0-16) without Kobe?

You mean he should have the same record Mike Miller and Jodie Meeks in place of Kobe?

[Deuce Bigalow]

MVPau clearly misses Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher's leadership... it's pretty obvious, tbh... he always won at least one playoff game with those two being part of the team...

That said, MVPau never missed the playoffs in his prime... a trait all great players have, tbh...

What record did he lead the Grizzles to before the trade?

[ElNono]

What record did he lead the Grizzles to before the trade?

49-33

[LkrFan]

49-33

that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! I said.

Here's a riddle:
1) 0-12
2) B2B
3) 0-4

[lefty]

[ElNono]

Here's a riddle:
1) 0-12
2) B2B
3) 0-4

Already addressed, tbh...

MVPau clearly misses Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher's leadership...

Here's another riddle...

1) Diesel
2) 121-125
3) MVPau

start det one

[HI-FI]

Already addressed, tbh...



Here's another riddle...

1) Diesel
2) 121-125
3) MVPau

start det one

Here's another riddle for LkrFan....
1)Tamales
2)Enchiladas
3)Burritos

[LkrFan]

Already addressed, tbh...

Here's another riddle...

1) Diesel
2) 121-125
3) MVPau

start det one

[LkrFan]

Here's another riddle for LkrFan....
1)Tamales
2)Enchiladas
3)Burritos

-10 points son for no mention of tacos or nachos.

[HI-FI]

-10 points son for no mention of tacos or nachos.

true. I was just mainly thinking of the I order from the local Mexican drive thru.

[spurraider21]

Lakerfans very well know that they didn't consider themselves in a position to compete in the post-shaq-pre-pau era. i would know, i live here. all the same s that have talked my whole life were really quiet in those few years, resorting to dumb like "tim duncan looks like a monkey lolz."

even when phil came back, there was never serious hope of competing, they were just praying to get out of the first round, especially after shaq got his ring. the whole "kobe can't win without shaq but shaq can't win without kobe" sphiel died really quick, after which there were rumors of trading bynum and odom for jermaine o'neal, anything to shake things up. then kobe wanted to be traded, and they were talking about sending him to the bulls in a package including deng. was ugly. the gift literally came out of nowhere. there were no rumors leading up to it. no stories that the two sides were talking. it literally just happened, and at that point, laker fans knew they were in business. iirc pau had a pretty good debut (bad shooting numbers, but good game overall) and laker nation aka kobestan we know today was born.

they called it kobe's rebirth and maturation and even though they all very well knew it was only possible because of pau's arrival. this is the narrative i lived through in LA

[Deuce Bigalow]

49-33

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...801280MEM.html

Try again

[ElNono]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...801280MEM.html

Try again

Try again...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MEM/2006.html

That was his last full season in Memphis. He was injured in 06-07, and Memphis shopped him in 07-08 while tanking...

You already played this card in page 5 of this thread, tbh

They only lost 4 of their next 27 games. Bynum went down, Lakers went to 50/50 ball. Pau bailed them out of that.

Of course they got better. Pau is a good player. A good second option All-Star caliber big man.

It didn't work then, not sure why you think it's going to work now

[Arcadian]

The game has changed, people. Dramatically.

The traditional low post bigman will all but be extinct in 5 years.

...And the few who remain will be even more valuable as a result.