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    I would buy low on a guy like McCollum but not with Green in the mix. If it could come along the lines of Joseph/Mills and a 2nd round pick, heck yes.

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    Green's hate is getting ridiculous seriously

    Why would SA trade a proven cheap rotational player like Danny Green for an injured combo guard that has showed nothing so far in the NBA? CJ McCollum had a fractured fifth metatarsal in his left foot. You guys should remember what happened to James Anderson after the same kind of injury.

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    McCollum fully recovers and proves that he can play in the NBA, he has little to no value. It doesn't matter if you like Danny Green or not. Right now, Danny Green is worth more than CJ McCollum quite easily and SAS front-office would be dumb to even consider such a trade right now.
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    Trade Pop for Bill Land.

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    Splitter needs to be traded . . . and this is not some overreaction to what's happening in the moment. I've long felt this and it doesn't stem from dislike or bias.

    It's simple: The starting lineup is broken and given the limited track record of success and the always somewhat awkward fit, it doesn't make much sense to just presume it'll automatically turn it around, either. Players have off shooting seasons. It happens. Especially when said players were never great shooters to begin with. Five of the six most frequently used front court players just so happen to be having one at once. Couple that with the lack of defensive mobility this group possesses and in essence, what you have is a team that can't defend against the majority of elite teams, yet also can't punish them with their size.

    Splitter is obviously overqualified to just back Duncan and though he'd come in handy as a secondary defensive anchor, how much sense does it make to prioritize someone who should primarily be utilized for 10-12 minutes (because that's all they can afford to rest Duncan against good teams in the playoffs) when it matters most over an asset that they could potentially utilize for 30 mpg? This team isn't good enough to essentially cross out their fifth best player against good teams. Heck, no team is.

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    Splitter needs to be traded . . . and this is not some overreaction to what's happening in the moment. I've long felt this and it doesn't stem from dislike or bias.

    It's simple: The starting lineup is broken and given the limited track record of success and the always somewhat awkward fit, it doesn't make much sense to just presume it'll automatically turn it around, either. Players have off shooting seasons. It happens. Especially when said players were never great shooters to begin with. Five of the six most frequently used front court players just so happen to be having one at once. Couple that with the lack of defensive mobility this group possesses and in essence, what you have is a team that can't defend against the majority of elite teams, yet also can't punish them with their size.

    Splitter is obviously overqualified to just back Duncan and though he'd come in handy as a secondary defensive anchor, how much sense does it make to prioritize someone who should primarily be utilized for 10-12 minutes (because that's all they can afford to rest Duncan against good teams in the playoffs) when it matters most over an asset that they could potentially utilize for 30 mpg? This team isn't good enough to essentially cross out their fifth best player against good teams. Heck, no team is.
    The guy is solid against middle of the road teams, teams we won't face in the playoffs and yet we signed him to a deal that just boggles the mind given his minutes.

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    Josh Howard's been tearing it up on the Toros. Savior tbh?

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    I can't imagine trading Splitter to be a serious option. Trade him for what? What team would want Splitter? And what would happen to the defense?

    Just hope Splitter works out the kinks of his crap offense in the remainder of the regular season. I don't know about benching, but more minutes would be better. He can play 30 a game, give him more time with Manu on the second unit instead of Ayres. Even a tired Splitter would be better than a fresh Ayres.

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    Splitter can't be traded until January 15th under rules. Would you trade him for Omer Asik? Similar age, salaries- Asik has 2 yrs left on his contract and Splitter on a 4 year. Rockets are going to trade Asik...he asked for a trade and is now benched. I would do it in a second. Asik a legit 7 ft defensive center who plays big. He would fit perfectly next to Duncan.

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    Holt can't afford the Asik balloon payment coming next year. Asik also has his own problems with horrible offense, a whole lot more turnover prone than Splitter by 50%(!), same bad free throws if not worse, and isn't that much of an upgrade over Splitter on defense. Better rebounder, that's all.

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    Splitter needs to be traded . . . and this is not some overreaction to what's happening in the moment. I've long felt this and it doesn't stem from dislike or bias.

    It's simple: The starting lineup is broken and given the limited track record of success and the always somewhat awkward fit, it doesn't make much sense to just presume it'll automatically turn it around, either. Players have off shooting seasons. It happens. Especially when said players were never great shooters to begin with. Five of the six most frequently used front court players just so happen to be having one at once. Couple that with the lack of defensive mobility this group possesses and in essence, what you have is a team that can't defend against the majority of elite teams, yet also can't punish them with their size.

    Splitter is obviously overqualified to just back Duncan and though he'd come in handy as a secondary defensive anchor, how much sense does it make to prioritize someone who should primarily be utilized for 10-12 minutes (because that's all they can afford to rest Duncan against good teams in the playoffs) when it matters most over an asset that they could potentially utilize for 30 mpg? This team isn't good enough to essentially cross out their fifth best player against good teams. Heck, no team is.
    What the market, the only team semi interested this summer was Portland to with the Spurs per par...

    The NY teams may be the only ones desperate for a center but I believe he has a big trade kicker in his contract anyway that makes trades even harder...
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    Green + Bonner + pick for Amir + Vasquez, get the post scoring we need and a true PG so that we can shut down Parker 2 months... Would be a fan favorite which wouldn't hurt.

    Another one would be Splitter + Bonner for Boozer + Snell, Bulls want to get rid of Boozer and T-Vag advanced stats might be valued in Chicago... Imo this is one of the most realistic ones... Snell is the sweetener since Boozer had one more year left after that one on his ridiculous contract... We could even keep Green in that scenario. Or maybe we send Green and get a good pick.

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    I just want to know what the Spurs are going to do with Bonner.

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    Cory Joseph, De Colo, and Matt Bonner need to go. I'm fed up with paying players in exchange for front row seats just to watch the game. Splitter, Ayres, and Green to a lesser extent, should also be upgraded. It's not hard, our front office just has to stop being lazy. Tim Duncan deserves a 5th ring.

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    Cory Joseph, De Colo, and Matt Bonner need to go. I'm fed up with paying players in exchange for front row seats just to watch the game. Splitter, Ayres, and Green to a lesser extent, should also be upgraded. It's not hard, our front office just has to stop being lazy. Tim Duncan deserves a 5th ring.
    So who would you replace these 6 players with? That's half the team...

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    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ng-Athleticism

    other teams trying to improve .... very nice

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    What the market, the only team semi interested this summer was Portland to with the Spurs per par...

    The NY teams may be the only ones desperate for a center but I believe he has a big trade kicker in his contract anyway that makes trades even harder...
    The market would be solid. The lack of rumored interest in the summer was because teams knew they'd have to offer something astronomical for the Spurs to even consider not matching and nobody wanted to get stuck paying him something like $12M a season. At $9M, he's fairly priced, even with the trade kicker . . . but realistically, they're not trading him.

    They could still at least somewhat alleviate the obvious spacing issues and the inability to defend small ball teams though, by trading Bonner and Ayres for Bass (the Celtics would be thrilled to shave $5M off the books for next season). This would clear up/balance the bigs situation, while also opening up a roster spot for a true SF/combo forward, without having to waive Thomas.

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    Green's hate is getting ridiculous seriously

    Why would SA trade a proven cheap rotational player like Danny Green for an injured combo guard that has showed nothing so far in the NBA? CJ McCollum had a fractured fifth metatarsal in his left foot. You guys should remember what happened to James Anderson after the same kind of injury.

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    McCollum fully recovers and proves that he can play in the NBA, he has little to no value. It doesn't matter if you like Danny Green or not. Right now, Danny Green is worth more than CJ McCollum quite easily and SAS front-office would be dumb to even consider such a trade right now.
    We are not trading Green, don't get why anyone in here would keep saying that nonsense. I agree with what you said.

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    We are not trading Green, don't get why anyone in here would keep saying that nonsense. I agree with what you said.
    They did sign Jeff Ayres

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    What I find interesting is that they really, really are trying to speed the progression of De Colo, Baynes and Thomas as much as possible, at least I gather as much from the patterns I see.

    Their constantly sending them down to play and then calling them up the same day only to view the game from the stands, then send them down again as if it's an effort to maximize their growth.

    i mean it could be just sound insurance policies, but it makes me think the FO is really mulling over some changes.

    IMO, this seems to be a yr were they make deals. After missing out on so many targets in the offseason, seeing Tiago, Bonner and Ayers scalped play after play, it just can't be sitting well with them.

    No way can I imagine them trading Danny Green unless it's for a legit breakout 2 guard or someone who's proven who's contract is trying to be dumped. It would just mess with the chemistry way too much after he's already become a big part of the team. And if you were to do it, it wouldn't be in the middle of the season.

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    What I find interesting is that they really, really are trying to speed the progression of De Colo, Baynes and Thomas as much as possible, at least I gather as much from the patterns I see.

    Their constantly sending them down to play and then calling them up the same day only to view the game from the stands, then send them down again as if it's an effort to maximize their growth.

    i mean it could be just sound insurance policies, but it makes me think the FO is really mulling over some changes.

    IMO, this seems to be a yr were they make deals. After missing out on so many targets in the offseason, seeing Tiago, Bonner and Ayers scalped play after play, it just can't be sitting well with them.

    No way can I imagine them trading Danny Green unless it's for a legit breakout 2 guard or someone who's proven who's contract is trying to be dumped. It would just mess with the chemistry way too much after he's already become a big part of the team. And if you were to do it, it wouldn't be in the middle of the season.
    D-League speed and NBA speed are two different animals.. Won't be useful in Pop's system unless they get playing time with the real team.

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    They did sign Jeff Ayres
    Ehhhhhh do not remind me of that. They are not going to get value for Green though, period.

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    Splitter can't be traded until January 15th under rules. Would you trade him for Omer Asik? Similar age, salaries- Asik has 2 yrs left on his contract and Splitter on a 4 year. Rockets are going to trade Asik...he asked for a trade and is now benched. I would do it in a second. Asik a legit 7 ft defensive center who plays big. He would fit perfectly next to Duncan.
    he also has 0 offensive game and can't hit ft to save his life.

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    Others teams really need to.

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    Others teams really need to.
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