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    Bynum doesn't have any leverage. His doesn't ave a say. He'll go to whomever gives Cleveland the best offer.

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    Bynum doesn't have any leverage. His doesn't ave a say. He'll go to whomever gives Cleveland the best offer.
    Not entirely true. No team is going to take Bynum on unless he wants to play for them (unless that team taking him on is doing so only to save money by waiving him) because of the money owed and possibility of damaging the locker room. They are especially not going to give up anything of value if they think Bynum will do what he's doing in CLE. His Jan guarantee date makes it tough.

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    5 - No team will trade for Bynum and spend 6 mill if he doesn't want to play there. He's playing this perf

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    He's worth the headache

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    I'm bored before the UFC main event...

    Thinking about the best way to unload Splitter in a few days once he becomes eligible...

    Teams that need a starting (because Splitter is paid like a starter) center badly : Boston, Brooklyn, Dallas, NY, New Orleans

    I don't see much that I'd like on these teams... People told me not to be worried about Splitter's market value but I can't help it tbh...

    What the best options on these teams, tosb Marion or Wallace + picks?

    Also it's pretty unforgiveable that they didn't recruit Ajinca who is playing well for the Pelis... He was the low post scoring option we needed off the bench...

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    Marion is expiring and doesn't need picks to be traded for him.

    Splitter is nearly untouchable, but suspending that for now, don't forget Atlanta and Philly, who were supposedly part of the Asik sweepstakes. Both have some decent pieces like Millsap, Nogueira, Hawes and Young.

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    Hey the good news is that I want to keep Green now... I'm more convinced that the problem is unit related and having 3 SGs and 2 sharpshooters won't be too much in the POs...

    Philly and Atlanta have some better pieces indeed but I'm not sure I see anything that really fits...

    Wallace + Bradley could give us both the smaller defender and the combo forward we miss, both are pretty limited on offense tho... Not sure Boston wants to pay Bradley in the first place so if we get Wallace we might as well get him to throw at Reggie Jackson...
    Last edited by Baam; 12-28-2013 at 09:09 PM.

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    And I'm proud of you from temporarily hopping off the trade Green bandwagon.

    The difference between us is that you like Wallace whereas I would consider him just a bad contract. I would want more than Bradley to give up the best player and take back the worst contract. At least another player or pick. Would rather have Bogans back since he's a dust chip.

    Atlanta can offer Brand's expiring, Nogueira and either Schröder or Jenkins, and Philly has New Orleans's first or Noel if Young or Hawes don't work. Much better than Boston's crap.

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    There is a report that Parker could be targeted by the Knicks in 2015

    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...arker-in-2015/

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    Not gonna happen. Melo will be old and taking up a huge chunk of salary. If Leonard even follows my conservative projection, he'll be a better player and making about half as much. It's likely the Spurs could afford to keep Parker, Green, Leonard, Diaw and Splitter while also bringing in max player like Love and a room-exception player like Beli could have been. Not to mention the Spurs have draft picks and prospects overseas.

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    There is a report that Parker could be targeted by the Knicks in 2015

    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...arker-in-2015/
    Wouldnt be the first time there's been speculation between the two

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ticle-1.449027

    His close friend Thierry Henry is there and we all know he frequents NY in his down time.

    I think if they really wanted it to happen they could get it done.

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    What do you guys think of Pekovic?

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    What do you guys think of Pekovic?
    He just signed 5 years 60M with Minnesota.

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    What do you guys think of Pekovic?
    Bizarro Splitter. Strong finisher and all-around great offensive big, but slow-footed and generally disappointing on D. Would be better than Splitter in many cases, but wouldn't be able to play with Duncan at all. Also makes a lot more.

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    People here underestimate Parker perhaps because of his Hollywood connection. Parker has been remarkably driven to play only for the Spurs (as long as they contend and compete and keep their nucleus which enabled them to do so), even more than Duncan & Manu, if you ask me. Duncan almost nearly fell for the Orlando lure while Manu hasn't been as coveted as the latter two (that doesn't mean that his value has been any less than Parker over the years, if not more).

    Parker could possibly bolt the Spurs when Duncan, Manu *AND* Popovich leave.. but I suspect that Pop, RCB & co. are a bit more visionary than (even) we expect. If RCB pulls a rabbit out of the FA hat in 2013 (Kevin Love?) to pair up with Parker, Leonard, Splitter and the bevy of Spurs'ian role players and Pop to address a new challenge for himself as a coach... Parker will stay and the Spurs could even contend again. Heck, maybe Duncan would want to add one more season as a super experienced role player a la The Admiral in 2002/03. Besides, even if that doesn't happen and Parker seeks to leave. Would a winner like him want to play for James Dolan? No way in Gotham , I guarantee.

    All said in sum, the Spurs have a lot going even in 2015 for Parker to stay put and see a team built around him, Leonard and Splitter. Not the same without Manu & Duncan.. but there is enough talent in both the NBA and among the Spurs thinktank to make alchemy work.

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    People here underestimate Parker perhaps because of his Hollywood connection. Parker has been remarkably driven to play only for the Spurs (as long as they contend and compete and keep their nucleus which enabled them to do so), even more than Duncan & Manu, if you ask me. Duncan almost nearly fell for the Orlando lure while Manu hasn't been as coveted as the latter two (that doesn't mean that his value has been any less than Parker over the years, if not more).

    Parker could possibly bolt the Spurs when Duncan, Manu *AND* Popovich leave.. but I suspect that Pop, RCB & co. are a bit more visionary than (even) we expect. If RCB pulls a rabbit out of the FA hat in 2013 (Kevin Love?) to pair up with Parker, Leonard, Splitter and the bevy of Spurs'ian role players and Pop to address a new challenge for himself as a coach... Parker will stay and the Spurs could even contend again. Heck, maybe Duncan would want to add one more season as a super experienced role player a la The Admiral in 2002/03. Besides, even if that doesn't happen and Parker seeks to leave. Would a winner like him want to play for James Dolan? No way in Gotham , I guarantee.

    All said in sum, the Spurs have a lot going even in 2015 for Parker to stay put and see a team built around him, Leonard and Splitter. Not the same without Manu & Duncan.. but there is enough talent in both the NBA and among the Spurs thinktank to make alchemy work.
    I can't quote him verbatim, but I now when asked about his plans regarding SA he's always said it depends whether Pop and Tony are still here.

    The prospect of playing in New York is something Parker has indulged for a while now, and I personally think he'd revel in the idea of being the key to a potential NY turnaround and in turn, be adored by the community.

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    I can't quote him verbatim, but I now when asked about his plans regarding SA he's always said it depends whether Pop and Tony are still here.

    The prospect of playing in New York is something Parker has indulged for a while now, and I personally think he'd revel in the idea of being the key to a potential NY turnaround and in turn, be adored by the community.
    I think that Parker might possibly be swayed if the NY Knicks suddenly develop character and change into a tour-de-force with proper scouting, clever use of the draft, overseas signings, vision, etc. Considering it is owned by a moron who has only money going for him and that it doesn't have a proper draft pick for ages and that it has lacked scouting for some centuries now and that it rarely tends to scout the overseas market for bargains and all that..

    Yeah.. I don't see the possibility as to how Parker will play for Dolan's Knicks.

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    I can see Parker playing for Brooklyn WAY before I see him playing for the Knicks. The Knicks are just too dysfunctional. Their roster is an expensive hot mess, an they've already traded their 2014 and 2016 first rounders. At age 33, I highly doubt Tony wants to step into that kind of long term rebuilding mess.

    By 2015 Garnett and Pierce will be gone, and they have their draft picks between now and then, IIRC.

    I honestly don't see either NY team being better than even a post Duncan Spurs squad.

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    I can see Parker playing for Brooklyn WAY before I see him playing for the Knicks. The Knicks are just too dysfunctional. Their roster is an expensive hot mess, an they've already traded their 2014 and 2016 first rounders. At age 33, I highly doubt Tony wants to step into that kind of long term rebuilding mess.

    By 2015 Garnett and Pierce will be gone, and they have their draft picks between now and then, IIRC.

    I honestly don't see either NY team being better than even a post Duncan Spurs squad.
    The Nets have literally traded away or agreed to swap every one of their picks for the next five years with the exception of ONE second-rounder. Plus they have Williams for three more years after this one. They will not be in play for Parker.

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    I feel like Bynum is such a low risk with that contract that it's too bad Tiago becomes eligible for a trade after Bynum's money gets garanteed...

    Also gotta wonder what he did, got the Cavs way more angry than when Waiters punched Kyrie in the face, what could he have done to get that reaction seriously??

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    Do you intentionally just say the opposite of what you believe? ^

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    Do you intentionally just say the opposite of what you believe? ^
    +1

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    Do you intentionally just say the opposite of what you believe? ^
    About Bynum being low risk on that contract... No... The first year is only garanteed on January 7 and the second on July 10 or something... How does it get any safer than that?

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    About Bynum being low risk on that contract... No... The first year is only garanteed on January 7 and the second on July 10 or something... How does it get any safer than that?
    He's guaranteed at least 6M. To pay 6M to a guy who has the potential to not only physical crumble, but ruin a locker room is a gigantic risk. Not only that, his deadline being on the 7th gives very little time for a team trading for him to evaluate fit before having to eat 12M.

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    Cojo + Mills + 2014 first for Greivis Vasquez

    Spurs need to rest TP while still hunting for fist seed so in my book it's worth the rental, especially since Vasquez would be a fan favorite and an upgrade defensively at 6"6. Mills doesn't work against Reggie Jackson, he's having a great season but it feels like he's carried by the only two players that came back better this year in Manu and Boris... Cojo goes to Canada where he's gonna be a fan favorite backing up Lowry.

    Then something like Splitter + Bonner for Boozer + Snell or a 3 teams trade if the Bulls don't want Tiago


    Duncan Boozer
    Diaw M.Thomas
    Kawhi Snell
    Green Manu/Marco
    TP Vasquez

    Gets more length for perimeter defense with Vasquez and Snell and better low post scoring. Ridiculously complicated with too many players involved but that would basically be my ideal scenario.
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