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    The more I know and learn it's really difficult to believe that there is not SOME higher power at work here. I don't adhere to any of the established religions but seriously...this world and this universe can't be just some random product of cosmic soup coming together.
    I completely agree. Evolution is real, but so is genetic manipulation.

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    I agree, but the Bible's cosmology sucks.
    Yes, but the translations are bad. When God created the world in six says, a more correct interpretation would be something like "the deities formed the earth and life in six stages." For all we know, it could be the same as trarraforming.

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    What does the belief or rejection of evolution have to do with being a politician? I've never understood how people get so anal over this. Who gives a ?

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    Yes, but the translations are bad. When God created the world in six says, a more correct interpretation would be something like "the deities formed the earth and life in six stages." For all we know, it could be the same as trarraforming.
    how the do you know what a correct interpretation should be?

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    What does the belief or rejection of evolution have to do with being a politician? I've never understood how people get so anal over this. Who gives a ?
    goddam, you're stupid (which is a characteristic of their that the Repugs depend on)

    The Repugs/tea baggers/libertarians, funded by $Bs from the VRWC/1%/UCA, wave wildly in one hand evolution, abortion, the Bible, their childish, mythical anthropomorphic "God" (he is exclusively a "Christian"), illegal immigrants, gun rights, ty teachers/public schools, bad govt and its horrible regulations, taxes, unions/right-to-work, socialism, Muslims, Sharia, etc to inflame their ignorant, gerrymandered base while with the other sleight-of-hand they pick all our pockets, aka "redistribute wealth", to themselves and above all their funders, and block all government progress, aka, "conserve the criminally unequal, rigged status quo".

    The brilliance of the Repugs is their ability to sucker their base into voting Repug while they over their base hard and deep.

    The supreme, current examples are

    1) Repugs denying Medicaid/health care to Ms of their voters.

    2) Repugs denying long-term unemployment extension, with 1/3 of those denied being white and 10Ks in Repug (gerrymandered) districts, states.
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    how the do you know what a correct interpretation should be?
    I've done some research regarding the Chaldean and Hebrew words that the Torah is written in. The correct interpretation where created is used, is actually formed. The times when a singular god is designated, is usually when you read it as "Lord God." The word used for God, not preceded by Lord, is a plural form of a word that means great being. The word translated as Adam in the story of the creation means mankind. A proper name form isn't used the story with Adam, eve, Cain, and Able. there are many misinterpretations in the English versions. Remember, these were interpreted in the time of kings, and religion has always been abused by people in power.

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    The more I know and learn it's really difficult to believe that there is not SOME higher power at work here. I don't adhere to any of the established religions but seriously...this world and this universe can't be just some random product of cosmic soup coming together.
    Why not? There might be a higher power, but it's certainly nothing like any religion describes. I think that the random product of cosmic soup coming together is the most likely and best answer. I also believe we are not alone in the universe.

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    Anyone who thinks we are alone in this universe is a total moron. It's more or less a certainty that life exists somewhere else.

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    Anyone who thinks we are alone in this universe is a total moron. It's more or less a certainty that life exists somewhere else.
    This is one of the few things I agree with you on.

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    Anyone who thinks we are alone in this universe is a total moron. It's more or less a certainty that life exists somewhere else.
    False logic, there are so many rocks on my property some of them must be diamonds.

    Perhaps there is, perhaps there isn't. Not enough evidence either way. Being certain there is life elsewhere isn't much different than being certain there is a god.

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    What about the freedom to believe in whatever? Why be a bigot just because you disagree with someone?

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    The more I know and learn it's really difficult to believe that there is not SOME higher power at work here. I don't adhere to any of the established religions but seriously...this world and this universe can't be just some random product of cosmic soup coming together.
    I would agree with this, too. The more you see the way math works in the universe the more it blows me away. I suppose it could be all random, but I definitely find that hard to comprehend.

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    False logic, there are so many rocks on my property some of them must be diamonds.
    You don't have a trillion trillion rocks in your yard.

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    I would like to see the exact poll.
    Then look it up. I did in three seconds.

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    False logic, there are so many rocks on my property some of them must be diamonds.

    Perhaps there is, perhaps there isn't. Not enough evidence either way. Being certain there is life elsewhere isn't much different than being certain there is a god.
    And here we have someone with absolutely no sense of the scale of the universe. The number of rocks in your property is in the order of 6 maybe. The number of stars in the universe is in the order of 23. That is an exponential scale ie

    1,000,000

    vs.

    100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    If you have 100 sextillion rocks in your yard then one of them will be compressed carbon.

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    I would agree with this, too. The more you see the way math works in the universe the more it blows me away. I suppose it could be all random, but I definitely find that hard to comprehend.
    So you not understanding something means that something greater has to understand and control it?

    Love the slave morality.

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    Exact wording is relevant. I do not accept paraphrasing in such instances.
    Tell me how the question could possibly worded such that you could believe both of these statements to be true:

    “humans and other living things have evolved over time”
    “humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time”

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    So you not understanding something means that something greater has to understand and control it?
    It's kind of like believing if you have enough of one thing then you must have something else.

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    So you not understanding something means that something greater has to understand and control it?

    Love the slave morality.
    Except thats not what I said, now is it? Reread.

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    Then look it up. I did in three seconds.
    I'm not a world class google expert like you guys.

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    Well, you're not a world class expert in anything so there's no need to clarify that to us.

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    Repugs, the party of stupid.

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    Well, you're not a world class expert in anything so there's no need to clarify that to us.
    How are your Climastology studies going?

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    I'm not a world class google expert like you guys.
    Did you even try?

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    I would agree with this, too. The more you see the way math works in the universe the more it blows me away. I suppose it could be all random, but I definitely find that hard to comprehend.
    What about it blows you away? It's Frkn neat that it can be used to describe some natural phenomena that we might not expect it to. But then again, we made it up. So I would expect it to describe phenomena we can find. Some people believe some Maths exist on their own, some sort of natural law. That we have FOUND it. Personally, I don't.

    Goal directed evolution is what most people can't handle. People that believe there is some other intelligent form of life like us basically adhere to goal directed evolution. Most Biological evolutionists do not believe this way yet some physicists do. This topic is more wide ranging than folks realize. Populations change through time just skims the surface of the variety of opinions concerning the topic.

    A crude dichotomy would be a religious sort looking at an ape today and thinking no way we came from a common ancestor. While the rest would say we did. Evolution is deeper than this. Of course those who believe living things are all created specially on their own would not care to venture from the shallow end of the pool. The richness of the topic ends abruptly for them.

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