54 percent of Republicans do not believe in evolution? Really?

[scott]

[Leetonidas]

The more I know and learn it's really difficult to believe that there is not SOME higher power at work here. I don't adhere to any of the established religions but seriously...this world and this universe can't be just some random product of cosmic soup coming together.

And please explain not? Because on the flip side of that argument it will always come back to this "higher power" and how it came to be. It's hard for a human mind to grasp a lot of the present day theories and even comprehend these vast swaths of time. But over the course of billions of years, it's not hard to grasp this concept, especially in an infinitely expanding universe. Based on the the way light travels and using the cosmic microwave background, scientists can pretty much see the big bang happen.

[Leetonidas]

All you have proven is the universe is large. No proof of life elsewhere. You know why, because God only created life on one planet and the universe and its vastness is only there to show God's power and confuse people like you into believing there has to be life elsewhere because it is so big.

You are one stupid mother er. Please, ing please, KILL YOURSELF, and if you have any children them as well. You and your inbred for brains ilk can never be allowed into the gene pool. Who the filled your mind with this bull ?

Rascal proving once again to be the biggest idiot on all of ST when it comes to his religious beliefs.

[RandomGuy]

I'm pretty sure the majority of the country rejects evolution, it's not just Republicans who are re ed on this issue.

From the linked article:

Washington: The number of Republican voters who do not believe in evolution has jumped from 43 per cent to 54 per cent in the past four years, research has found.
The survey on religious views by the Pew Research Centre found that over the same period the number of Democrats believing in evolution climbed from 64 per cent to 67 per cent.
Just 60 per cent of Americans agreed that ‘‘humans and other living things have evolved over time’’; 33per cent rejected the notion, a number barely changed since 2009, when Pew last conducted this research.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/belief-i...#ixzz2peEX4wN0

[boutons_deux]

The Most Fascinating Human Evolution Discoveries of 2013


http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...T_EVO_20140106

[MannyIsGod]

You are splitting hairs. So you are uncertain. You still give credence to the notion of a god of the gaps because of your uncertainty which was my central point. It just surprised me because it is completely illogical.

Giving credence to the possibility because of the way we interpret the universe is anything but illogical. Its seems as though you have a very narrow view on this subject and if someone lies outside of that view you find it illogical.

[rascal]

Rascal. I'm a Christian. I read the bible, and, yes, I believe God existed before the universe, and created the universe, along with all of the laws that it follows. Why would God specifically create something so vast simple to confuse the people he supposedly loves more than we can possibly understand?

So you believe Gos is an asshole?

I don't.

With that many planets out there, logic would suggest that we are NOT alone, and that civilizations have risen and fallen throughout the ages (even on our own planet if you believe that Voyager episode with the space travelling dinosaurs).

It wasn't to confuse people but that is what it has become for some. The universe is so big and there are so many planets that can support life as we know it, that there must be life( that is thoughts that lead you astray from the truth- there is no life other than on Earth). There is no need for life elsewhere. The game is being played out on Earth. Man is God's greatest creation, even greater than all the universe. It was to show his vast power and love. The Universe is so big but his favorite creation is Man and the life he created on Earth.

[boutons_deux]

"Man is God's greatest creation"

your anthropomorphic God couldn't create better than anthropocentric egocentric egomaniac man?

[rascal]

Was this in 1st or 2nd Thessalonians?

Bible fanatics go too far and according to them everyone is going to unless you are a so called born again Christian.

[rascal]

"Man is God's greatest creation"

your anthropomorphic God couldn't create better than anthropocentric egocentric egomaniac man?

God could have created puppets with no free will to do wrong but what then, they would be no different than the animals. Yes, Man is God's greatest creation and the Earth and having the domain over it was given to him.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Giving credence to the possibility because of the way we interpret the universe is anything but illogical. Its seems as though you have a very narrow view on this subject and if someone lies outside of that view you find it illogical.

Perhaps you should reread what you agreed with on CC's part. Let us revisit.

The more I know and learn it's really difficult to believe that there is not SOME higher power at work here. I don't adhere to any of the established religions but seriously...this world and this universe can't be just some random product of cosmic soup coming together.

There is a great degree of order
I do not understand how such order came to be.

From that you induce the existence of a 'higher power' yet there is no logical link that I see.

And of course I have had this argument before because you are arguing the god of the gaps. It's an intellectual cop out: I don't understand so I will attribute it to make-believe superior being.

I am just looking for a logical link to go from 'I don't understand how this is' to 'it could be a supreme being.' It could be a monkey ing a football too. Why not that or any other unprovable hypothesis? Logic is based on something. If what you are doing here is 'logic' then WC and his 'well it could be...' wishful thinking is logic too.

Logic is based on supporting points that lead to a conclusion. There is a difference between 'possible' and 'logical.' The monkey is just as 'logical' as the other in this case.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I am a loser with women and with making money.
Other areas I am all right. I am not a bad looking guy and am athletic so it wasn't like I was some strange nerd who was only into books.

I never had any dates in high school or even college. Just didn't feel like I had anything to offer or that a girl would even be interested. I didn't even touch a girl until I was 28, didn't have a relationship until 38 and married a woman I was not even attracted to at 48 (because I thought I would never get married with my track record). I really feel sorry for my wife.


I thought getting a college degree in engineering would help me land a good paying job, it never did. I am working a low paying job similar to what I worked before I got the degree. UTSA in San Antonio does not have a good engineering program at least when I went to school there. I came out ill prepared to do well in the field.

I lifted weights for over 30 years and I would say that it didn't help much with getting girls interested or building confidence. I could never get the girls I was really attracted to(blue eyed brunettes), they never seemed to be available and the one girl that I thought I had a shot at in college I just would get really nervous the times I tried to talk to her so I felt I had no shot in with her and never even tried asking her on a date. This I regret because I never met another girl the way I felt for this particular girl.

So I am saying to the young readers out there if there is a girl you want go for it because the ship may sail away and you will be left with a life of regret.

This thread is also for all the losers to say you are not alone, there are other people who have experiences like you. Don't be afraid to stand up and call yourself a loser, don't care what others think, and try to make the necessary changes and I hope you have better luck than I did.

worshiping and getting a ty life in return

God's kind of a prick, tbh.

[Blake]

Bible fanatics go too far and according to them everyone is going to unless you are a so called born again Christian.

is illogical, tbh.

[rascal]

worshiping and getting a ty life in return

God's kind of a prick, tbh.

You don't have a clue of what you speak.

[rascal]

is illogical, tbh.

Just because you can't fathom it doesn't mean it can't exist. Many things none of us know about yet until after we die. Until you die you won't know what is on the other side. You only see it from this side of the fence and then make the claim there can't be anything on the other side of death because you don't know.

[rascal]

is illogical, tbh.

could be a separation from everything. You exist in space(not in this dimension) just floating for eternity separated from everything just in blackness.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Just because you can't fathom it doesn't mean it can't exist. Many things none of us know about yet until after we die. Until you die you won't know what is on the other side. You only see it from this side of the fence and then make the claim there can't be anything on the other side of death because you don't know.

You can't prove it exists, which by your logic means it doesn't exist. The fact a lot of people believe in something isn't proof it exists.

How have you seen if you haven't died yet?

[Blake]

could be a separation from everything. You exist in space(not in this dimension) just floating for eternity separated from everything just in blackness.

Bible clearly says has fire.

But even so, what kind of loving father separates himself from his kids for eternity?

It's not logical.

[SnakeBoy]

Fuzzy, Do you believe aliens have visited the earth?

[Jacob1983]

Why do you guys argue over this ?

[Blake]

Why does God have you cleaning diaper stations at Target?

[Leetonidas]

You can't prove it exists, which by your logic means it doesn't exist. The fact a lot of people believe in something isn't proof it exists.

How have you seen if you haven't died yet?

religious people claiming others can't "fathom" something

[baseline bum]

Fuzzy, Do you believe aliens have visited the earth?

Not directed to me, but I'll jump in anyways. If you mean little green men in spaceships, I'd say it's extremely doubtful considering how sparsely populated the universe is with galaxies and considering the upper limit of the speed of light. But microbes hitching a ride here on a comet or an asteroid? That I could maybe see.

[SnakeBoy]

Why do you guys argue over this ?

I think everyone has there own reasons.

[pgardn]

The religious zealot always backs into an untenable position by the inability to utter a very simple phrase:

I don't know.

When one starts creating rules and deities... It's asking observation, evidence and logic to punch you in the face.