Official Trade/Signing Ideas Thread

[Bruno]

Ryan Gomes has been a black hole for the THunder and among the worst players in the league in his previous games across seasons.

Yep, this is a move that don't hurt at all OKC on the court.

This trade though shows how Presti are his hands tied with the luxury tax being a hard cap for him. He is at a level where he has to do micromanage every single dollar just to sign min salary players to fill his roster.

[Bruno]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10...ulls-luol-deng

the Bulls got a future first-round draft pick owed to the Cavs by the Sacramento Kings from a 2011 trade for J.J. Hickson. The Bulls will get the Kings' pick if it falls outside the top 12 in 2014 or outside the top 10 picks in 2015, 2016 or 2017. The Bulls also got the 2015 and 2016 second-round picks the Portland Trail Blazers owed the Cavs. In a final piece, the Bulls will be able to swap draft positions with the Cavs in 2015 as long as the Cavs' draft pick is outside the top 14 picks.

What a crappy return for a player like Deng. WoW. Bulls couldn't even get a top10 pick or a second round pick.

This trade make a player highly available: Mike Dunleavy. Bulls road seems clear: they will tank this year, amnesty Boozer this summer and have a lot of capspace. To maximize that space, they need to trade away Dunleavy and his $3.3M 14/15 salary. A trade like Dunleavy for De Colo and Baynes would works fine for both teams.

[Spursfanfromafar]

This trade make a player highly available: Mike Dunleavy. Bulls road seems clear: they will tank this year, amnesty Boozer this summer and have a lot of capspace. To maximize that space, they need to trade away Dunleavy and his $3.3M 14/15 salary. A trade like Dunleavy for De Colo and Baynes would works fine for both teams.

Would be a great trade, IMO. Dunleavy would be a very useful addition, with his ball handling, outside shooting skills. Not that much of a defender, but will spell time well for Kawhi.

But I think it wouldnt' happen. The Bulls, might want to still compete for the playoffs despite losing Deng. The EC is so pathetic that they could snag the 7th/8th seed and now that they are below the luxury tax, they might not want to give up on Dunleavy as much.

[Baam]

I don't get why they'd amnesty an expiring contract... Doesn't make sense, especially if you're rebuilding and not contending... Imo they gonna try to trade Boozer...

Unless this whole thing is a Melo plan, get rid of the starting SF and make room cap wise ...

[Bruno]

Would be a great trade, IMO. Dunleavy would be a very useful addition, with his ball handling, outside shooting skills. Not that much of a defender, but will spell time well for Kawhi.

But I think it wouldnt' happen. The Bulls, might want to still compete for the playoffs despite losing Deng. The EC is so pathetic that they could snag the 7th/8th seed and now that they are below the luxury tax, they might not want to give up on Dunleavy as much.

The east is so crappy behind Miami and Indiana that they might even finish 3rd but, if I'm them, I will definitively give up on this season.

Chicago could have a really nice young team next year with Rose, Noah, Butler, Gibson, Snell, Mirotic, 2 first round picks (Chicago and Charlotte) and cap space to sign a big FA. Working on that new team seems way more interesting that this season where the best they could hope is losing badly in the second round against Miami or Indiana.

[sventhedog]

Would be a great trade, IMO. Dunleavy would be a very useful addition, with his ball handling, outside shooting skills. Not that much of a defender, but will spell time well for Kawhi.

But I think it wouldnt' happen. The Bulls, might want to still compete for the playoffs despite losing Deng. The EC is so pathetic that they could snag the 7th/8th seed and now that they are below the luxury tax, they might not want to give up on Dunleavy as much.

the explanation here is that you don't get any reward for being in the middle. it's either you contend for a le or have a bad enough record to snag a rookie in the draft.

without derrick rose, the best they can do is make the playoffs and get swept in the 1st round. i think you would agree with me if i say they have 0% chance of winning a le this year. so why not just tank and get a chance to win a lottery pick.

[Bruno]

BTW, what sucks in the Deng trade is that Bynum will be waived and available to sign with Miami, Clippers or another contender. He might be nowhere near as good as before his injuries but he is still a big body that will bother Duncan and will protect the paint.

[Spursfanfromafar]

the explanation here is that you don't get any reward for being in the middle. it's either you contend for a le or have a bad enough record to snag a rookie in the draft.

without derrick rose, the best they can do is make the playoffs and get swept in the 1st round. i think you would agree with me if i say they have 0% chance of winning a le this year. so why not just tank and get a chance to win a lottery pick.

Well, not all teams in the NBA work on the basis of no contentions, lets tank basis. There's the need for gate receipts and year-to-year profit. They might think that they have done enough to overcome the luxury tax and considering that the EC is so pathetic, they might get into the second round of the playoffs. That would be a good way of receiving more gate returns.

If they need to sell Dunleavy they could do it after the season ends as well for minimum salaried players.

Not that I agree with such a logic, but such logic exists.

[cd021]

I wonder whether bulls will waive Carlos Boozer

You mean Amnesty, In the summer after this season. He is owed 16.3 million. If he is waived that would stay on the cap keeping the Bulls at 66 million. If amnestied, then he would still get paid but off the cap. The team would be $10 million under the cap ($60 million next season) and have 8 players on roster.

[cd021]

I don't get why they'd amnesty an expiring contract... Doesn't make sense, especially if you're rebuilding and not contending... Imo they gonna try to trade Boozer...

Unless this whole thing is a Melo plan, get rid of the starting SF and make room cap wise ...

The bulls didn't want to amnesty Boozer 3 seasons ago and pay a player $45+millon off the books. Amnestying him in the off season would mean that they would only owe him $16.3 million. They are already paying his replacement (Gibson) $8 million. They can draft a PF and or sign one on the cheap in the offseason to round out their PF rotation.

They won't have enough cap to sign Melo outright. They have $50 million committed to 8 players. If they move Dunleavy like Bruno mentioned they could clear out 3.3 million dropping them to about $13 million below the cap. Melo is making over 20 million this season. They'd have to pony up at least 20 million a season for him.

[Baam]

The bulls didn't want to amnesty Boozer 3 seasons ago and pay a player $45+millon off the books. Amnestying him in the off season would mean that they would only owe him $16.3 million. They are already paying his replacement (Gibson) $8 million. They can draft a PF and or sign one on the cheap in the offseason to round out their PF rotation.

They won't have enough cap to sign Melo outright. They have $50 million committed to 8 players. If they move Dunleavy like Bruno mentioned they could clear out 3.3 million dropping them to about $13 million below the cap. Melo is making over 20 million this season. They'd have to pony up at least 20 million a season for him.

Ok thanks for the info, still doesn't make a lot of sense if they can't get a difference maker in FA...

The bottom line is that they need a first option right now, they're not gonna contend next year if they don't have one, either they use the picks to free more cap space or to trade for one imo...

[Baam]

One week to go until Splitter gets eligible for a trade, every metric says he must go tbh... Will we see what they opt to do, bury their head in the sand or be proactive about it... If they manage to turn Splitter into MKG I'd cry from joy...

[TheGoldStandard]

One week to go until Splitter gets eligible for a trade, every metric says he must go tbh... Will we see what they opt to do, bury their head in the sand or be proactive about it... If they manage to turn Splitter into MKG I'd cry from joy...

You haven't been paying attention lately but in case you haven't Splitter won't be traded. Spurs don't move pieces unless it's to hinder them or to get someone season tickets for the rest of the year.

[Baam]

Splitter may not get traded but he should...

- bad fit with Tim and Kawhi, with any big other than Boris actually
- already have a cheap Tiago with a bit more speed in Ayres (who has better numbers with Tim)
- he still doesn't have a post game or a jumper

Trading Splitter for perimeter D is so obvious is not even funny. And if they can get one of the best defender in the league in MKG then we go back to the Finals for sure... Let's not forget how little Tiago played in last year's run...

[TheGoldStandard]

Splitter may not get traded but he should...

- bad fit with Tim and Kawhi, with any big other than Boris actually
- already have a cheap Tiago with a bit more speed in Ayres (who has better numbers with Tim)
- he still doesn't have a post game or a jumper

Trading Splitter for perimeter D is so obvious is not even funny. And if they can get one of the best defender in the league in MKG then we go back to the Finals for sure... Let's not forget how little Tiago played in last year's run...

Well the spurs won't shop him but I doubt there would be a team willing to take on his 36mil salary. The one team that showed interest was able to pay Robin Lopez 5mil less to do the same thing as Splitter and he's stayed relatively healthy and is putting up similar numbers and is younger.

So we either paid too much for Splitter and there is not a good market for him with the kind of return that would help or he's a great piece that teams would give us a good sf for him. I would like to believe it's the former not the latter.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
The Lakers have waived Shawne Williams, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

[I. Hustle]

THE Shawne Williams??!!

[TheGoldStandard]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
The Lakers have waived Shawne Williams, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

Lakers are in full tank mode they cut Shawnee Williams

[RD2191]

THE Shawne Williams??!!

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
D-League Texas Legends forward Devin Ebanks, a former Laker, to meet with Sixers in Reno, source said.

[slick'81]

I'd be all for bynum in sa too bad he's as injury prone as split

[cd021]

I'd be all for bynum in sa too bad he's as injury prone as split

Yes cause Splitter missed an entire season....

[slick'81]

Naw of course not splitter is the man

[cd021]

Splitter may not get traded but he should...

- bad fit with Tim and Kawhi, with any big other than Boris actually
- already have a cheap Tiago with a bit more speed in Ayres (who has better numbers with Tim)
- he still doesn't have a post game or a jumper

Trading Splitter for perimeter D is so obvious is not even funny. And if they can get one of the best defender in the league in MKG then we go back to the Finals for sure... Let's not forget how little Tiago played in last year's run...

Trading rim protection for a 3rd perimeter defender? that makes sense. Without Splitter, Duncan wouldn't be able to anchor a top 5 defense for an entire season and a playoff run. That is what is obvious.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Hearing Hawks have waived Cartier Martin in time to beat today's 5PM deadline before Martin's contract was guaranteed for rest of season