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How many players have the Lakers lost this year. Tank to me includes teams that get injured and decide to ship assets for a rebuild like the Bulls did when Rose went down.
Agreed. Tank/rebuild is same I know tank implies deliberately losing but its just nice spin.
How many players have the Lakers lost this year. Tank to me includes teams that get injured and decide to ship assets for a rebuild like the Bulls did when Rose went down.
lol look at you backpedaling on "tank" now that Dale disapproves.
Killa backpedaling hard...Yep the worst. With win over Clips, Kings and Warriors ... and your Rockets too ...
If we can sneak in a win over Celts, Mavs and Spurs this will be a great season if we get a top 3 pick.
Man, has the bar been lowered ...
Bend over. I'll have ya in' backpedaling hard.
How did the human centipede work out for you?
Missing my point. Also, that's probably the worst way to play pocket aces
Does pocket aces mean those cards aren't showing except to you?
much like pocket aces are your best bet to winning a poker hand, getting the worst record gives your best shot to getting that top pick. these comments i hear about how "the worst record usually doesn't get the first pick" are missing the point, considering it still gives them the best odds.
now, when poker is played, many will fold pre-flop, and yes, you can push people out with pocket aces. the odds of taking the hand are thus really high with aces. but statistically, if they were to play through, the pre-flop odds are still less than 50% in an 8 man game. that doesn't mean its a hand you don't want
Exactly, Tanking implies that you are not even putting any effort into winning. Having multiple injuries is just having bad luck. But because of their luck this year, most Lakers' fan just want them to lose out, which imo is just stupid. Believe me, I didn't enjoy the 96-97 apart from oldman Dominque's highlight dunks every now and then.
Rebuilding isn't tanking. Look at the Sonics when they traded Allen and Lewis, who both were allstar's at the time. They had a plan and are now a championship contending team. Tanking is just completely packing it in, much like what the Bucks are doing right now.
What, now you ain't talking to me unless you're attacking me?
I asked a civil question. Please.
i didn't attack you, i explained by point. pocket aces are easily the best hand to be dealt, but statistically aren't going to win most of the time, much like how the worst record doesn't get the #1 pick most of the time
Best way is to only have other pocket pairs playing against you and even then the fewer the better. If you let everyone limp in someone is going to hit a straight or a flush.
yeah, i mean you aren't going to check-call all the way through. again, the art of poker was not my point, just the statistical part. we can start a poker thread if you like, but that is not my intention with the pocket aces aexample
That wasn't my question. I'm asking if that term (pocket aces) means only the owner can see them, they're in his hand. Stands to reason, but, I don't play cards so I just wanted to verify what I surmise.
Bad analogy though. All teams are all in during the lottery. Unless you play free money or for change, you aren't going to get everyone at the table going all in before the flop, and most won't even call a check raise if you have bullets and you're 1st to act. It also depends on position.
But yes, if everyone at the table went all in before the flop, the pocket aces wouldn't win the majority of the time, but it would probably win more than the other individual hands.
In Texas Hold'em, your two cards are face down and the five cards that are turned up are community cards. Best 5 wins if everyone plays to the river (last card turned up). The two down cards in front of you only you can see, they are pocket cards.
ding ding ding. again, i wasn't talking poker strategy, just the numbers, dmc. this is the analogy i was going for with the worst record/top pick thing
The progression of this thread is giving me an itch to jump in a quick Monday night tourney somewhere tonight.
gotcha. nobody else sees your aces.
^Thank you.
There's a 25% chance for the worst team to get the 1st overall pick. That's not a good chance, but better than the 14% chance and such. Still, in the history of this type of draft in the NBA, the worst team has gotten the 1st overall pick fewer times than teams with lower odds. For example, the 2nd worst team in the draft has gotten the 1st overall more times than the worst team.
The New Orleans thing is suspect though... what are the odds of that team getting that pick? Couple that with the individual drafted, who owned the winning team and what just happened prior (Chris Paul deal) and it really seems suspect. I wouldn't be surprised to find one day that it was rigged.
yeah, obviously if its rigged you can throw all the numbers out the window. still, it stands to reason that if you want the top pick, you'd take the 25% over any other slot. anybody saying otherwise is mathematically challenged
Who the is backpedaling?
I am fully aboard team tank?
I am even confused on what I said that would be considered backpedaling. I only care about winning a few games this year and we got now 4 of the 6 I wanted. A win over the spurs and Mavs and we can lose all the rest for all I care.
Let me break it down for you ... I was saying that you can say "We don't tank" we are just rebuilding ...but that is just "spin". If you are not pursuing better players or signing a bunch of one year contract types you are either tanking or looking to rebuild via free agency ...Not that hard to understand.
I can vouch for Killa. You can't kill people on semantics or one off's. He's been on board with tanking well before the season started and before Kobe's contract.
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