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    KL is often too passive on offense…don't know why that is. You can't say its because of Parker, Pop or the system the Spurs run. , look at Patty Mills with his chucking up shots left and right. He gets the ball enough to be able to do something with it besides passing it back to Parker or Green for a brick.
    Mills is a guard..The System naturally would want him to run PnR

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    Mills is a guard..The System naturally would want him to run PnR
    @ Mills knowing what the PnR is…Mills is a chucker…he sees any kind of an opening and he shoots it almost from anywhere on the court

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    @ Mills knowing what the PnR is…Mills is a chucker…he sees any kind of an opening and he shoots it almost from anywhere on the court
    That's his role.

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    To chuck with reckless abandon? Ok, got it thanks. What about KL doing the same? Oh noes his role is to stand in the corner and shoot corner 3's,whatever….KL needs to be more aggressive and less afraid of stepping on anyone's toes. Plain and simple.

    No wonder he doesn't get enough touches or is the forgotten man in the offense. He defers more than any other starter on the Spurs.

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    To chuck with reckless abandon? Ok, got it thanks. What about KL doing the same? Oh noes his role is to stand in the corner and shoot corner 3's,whatever….KL needs to be more aggressive and less afraid of stepping on anyone's toes. Plain and simple.

    No wonder he doesn't get enough touches or is the forgotten man in the offense. He defers more than any other starter on the Spurs.
    Some people tend to think that Pop will blow up and trade him.. lol, that's not happening. Kawhi is playing with house money this season and next and he needs to take advantage of that to either send a message to the coaching staff especially Pop or to the other GM's of the league that he can be a valuable piece.

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    The difference is Bellineli in the starting lineup. Him shooting so much cuts into the amount of shots Kawhi Leonard gets to take...... Danny Green never fired up as many shots as Bellineli does.

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    The difference is Bellineli in the starting lineup. Him shooting so much cuts into Kawhi's touches..... Danny Green never fired up ad many shots as Bellineli does.
    Belli is not there for any other reason but to shoot so he takes them when he touches the ball. Outside of Parker nobody on that starting line up creates there own shot so Belli was inserted for more offensive production. Starters were prone to starting slow and being down 8 or 10 early before getting into the game and bench exploiting that. Rotations are starting to get smaller from other teams, starters are playing bigger minutes.

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    Belli is not there for any other reason but to shoot so he takes them when he touches the ball. Outside of Parker nobody on that starting line up creates there own shot so Belli was inserted for more offensive production. Starters were prone to starting slow and being down 8 or 10 early before getting into the game and bench exploiting that. Rotations are starting to get smaller from other teams, starters are playing bigger minutes.
    Exactly my point. Playing on the same line as Bellineli may cut into Kawhi's numbers because Bellineli shoots so much, which means less shots for Leonard

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    Exactly my point. Playing on the same line as Bellineli may cut into Kawhi's numbers because Bellineli shoots so much, which means less shots for Leonard
    I agree with you but the point I am making, which some will argue that it's not Kawhi's job in the system to create shots but to sit there and wait for the ball, is that he needs to take advantage of the opportunities that he actually touches the ball. He defers too much.. He's playing with house money, he's not going to get traded or cut by the team for taking shots or forcing the issue and he's not going to get benched for very long if they do try to reprimand him. The Spurs needs him a lot more than he needs the Spurs and without being too much of a he needs to let them know that.

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    Maybe he should just become a chucker.. lol

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    Maybe he should just become a chucker.. lol
    or maybe he should start outright playing bad. that will guarantee him longer minutes in popovich's system along with a new contract

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    No wonder he doesn't get enough touches or is the forgotten man in the offense. He defers more than any other starter on the Spurs.
    He defers more than any other starter because he's younger than them?

    He defers too much because he -like young players in their third year as pro- has low self confidence?

    In both cases, the coach should try to build his confidence with more minutes on the floor, calling his number, helping to realise his full potential (few minutes, not many touches, and forget him on the bench isn't the way)

    How do you think to build self confidence of young players? The big deal is that the young players aren't born with it, you must help them.

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    Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
    i will have to vent in this thread since i cbf lookin up for others to bump

    kawhi has gotten my attention that he hasnt improved at all this year, a player only improves when u see a significant "incremental increase: across the board

    someone posted his avgs since rookie season and all 3 years has been the same each year, so tell me wheres the jump in his stats?

    he does alot of things on t he court that doesnt appear on the stat sheet, but alot of clowns love advance stats and statsheets, they dont give 2 s what isnt intangible thats not on the statsheet recorded...

    have a stud who can be all round player, but force to be spot up shooter defensive stopper = what a fkn load of horse ...nobody is stopping this clown from developing besides enrique and that clown coach...fck it,

    contract year for kawhi and they are downplaying his role so they can low ball him just as expected...

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    It does seem the FO is keeping KL very restricted, could be so they can lowball him on his contract and try to pay him roll player type money IDK. However I do have a strong feeling
    KL will have none of it and bounce. You can see him getting pretty frustrated with things through his body language and even his interviews have been a bit testy toned this year.

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    The second player is Batum fyi.

    Kawhi Leonard is Batum with worse passing and better rebounding, bar none, he doesn't need more shots and wouldn't get them on another contender...
    Great take, tbh..

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    Kawhi is a way better defender than batum

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    Batum is still a better comparison than Paul George but good to see him become more aggressive.

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    Kawhi is a better scorer, rebounder, and defender than Batum. Batum is a better ball-handler and playmaker. Lol @ saying Batum is Kawhi's "ceiling" when Kawhi at 22 years old is already better than Batum has ever been.

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    shot selection is an important aspect of anybody's game and is a big part of player's efficiency

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