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    I'm retty sure they're looking for more than De Colo and Bonner.

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    I'm retty sure they're looking for more than De Colo and Bonner.
    Wouldn't work mathematically, but that's not very far off from what they'd get. They would be trading him to get out of that contract, not to get a bunch of assets back. Evans' value is actually lower now than it was last season. They should hold onto him until the summer at least. It's like trying to sell a new car right after you buy it.

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    Gordon and Evans would both be terrible acquisitions for the Spurs tbh. Pretty dumb of the Pelicans to let R. Lopez walk away for nothing in the offseason to be able to overpay Tyreke Evans

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    Wouldn't work mathematically, but that's not very far off from what they'd get. They would be trading him to get out of that contract, not to get a bunch of assets back. Evans' value is actually lower now than it was last season. They should hold onto him until the summer at least. It's like trying to sell a new car right after you buy it.
    It won't but, I'm pretty sure they're looking for draft pick compensation. They can do a lot better by waiting it out and looking at possible bubble teams looking to burst into the playoff picture. If they're paying attention, they'll probably look at teams in the draft range of 15 to 20 or they probably won't bother to make a trade at all.Bonner and De Colo save you what, less than 3 million? If that's the best they can do, then trading shouldn't even be an option.

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    Pelicans also looking for front court help, with Anderson out 2 months according to Y!-Sports. Aminu would be a good fit for the Spurs and we have several bigs on 1 year-2 year deals.

    They can tryout any player they'd receive without being on the hook for alot of cash.

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    You'll notice that Neal is no longer here?
    Sure, but that's not the point. Say all you want about Gary Neal, but he could get you 8 point off the bench in a hurry because he had a specialized offensive skill-set. I'm not saying he's perfect, but Bass at least is a player that can give instant offense from the post/midrange. Folks here get excited about the sexy young prospect when a vet with a specialize skill set may be the way to go to win NOW, not 2 or 3 years from now.

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    It won't but, I'm pretty sure they're looking for draft pick compensation. They can do a lot better by waiting it out and looking at possible bubble teams looking to burst into the playoff picture. If they're paying attention, they'll probably look at teams in the draft range of 15 to 20 or they probably won't bother to make a trade at all.Bonner and De Colo save you what, less than 3 million? If that's the best they can do, then trading shouldn't even be an option.
    That does make sense. I wonder if the Bulls would look into acquiring, Evans or Gordon for Boozer. Hornets could get out of those long term deals by keeping boozer for a season.

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    Yannis Koutroupis @YannisNBA
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    What's funny is that over the last few years when Bud assumed control of the team after a Pop ejection, made sure to play the starters more than their normal minutes. He ditched Pop's limited minutes rotation, and went for the win. I remember he'd put Manu in and wouldn't take him out until the game was out of contention. He would never have forgotten to play the best perimeter defender and the only legit small forward on the team.

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    It won't but, I'm pretty sure they're looking for draft pick compensation. They can do a lot better by waiting it out and looking at possible bubble teams looking to burst into the playoff picture. If they're paying attention, they'll probably look at teams in the draft range of 15 to 20 or they probably won't bother to make a trade at all.Bonner and De Colo save you what, less than 3 million? If that's the best they can do, then trading shouldn't even be an option.
    It saves $36 Million. I'm sure they'd like an asset or two back. But they'd be trading him for buyer's remorse, not for assets. I don't know why they didn't try to trade for Bynum, as he'd both save them money and could have been a decent big if they decided to keep him.Beli, Bonner and De Colo would get it done financially. Splitter would probably get it done asset-wise. But I don't think a deal is really there. Evans is overpaid.
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    Fields is away from the team for personal reasons and will thus not play Monday at Charlotte, the Toronto Sun reports.


    Spin: Coach Dwane Casey didn't indicate the reason for Fields' no-show, but he's rarely taken the court since Dec. 10, earning 13 DNPs in 19 outings, with 15 total minutes played in the other six tilts. Nevertheless, consider him questionable for Wednesday's game against the Mavericks.

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    Odd when they have Nene/Gortat. I guess Gortat is expiring so they aren't sure if they would keep him, but still.

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    It saves $36 Million. I'm sure they'd like an asset or two back. But they'd be trading him for buyer's remorse, not for assets. I don't know why they didn't try to trade for Bynum, as he'd both save them money and could have been a decent big if they decided to keep him.Beli, Bonner and De Colo would get it done financially. Splitter would probably get it done asset-wise. But I don't think a deal is really there. Evans is overpaid.
    Couple things. The 36M saved would be from the Pelicans persective. That's of course if they can pull off two seperate trades because no team is going to take on both those salaries ( Gordon one year and Tyreke three years). Both are guards which the Spurs aren't currently in short supply of. RC Buford, ever since the RJ trade hasn't been willing to gamble on big player contracts. Without the need for guards and the available cap space in the future, Tyreke is a no go and Gordon really isn't an upgrade over Mills at this point.

    If the Spurs mak a move, it will be one of those far less talked about deals that has less to do with putting them over the top and more to do with regular season minutes eating and backend of the rotation depth at SF. I'll be shocked if the Spurs are part of a blockbuster. If they are, it would almost certainly be a three-way.

    Also, Belinelli isn't going to be traded. As bad as his defense is, Gordon and Tyreke haven't proven to be any better. If anything, you'll probably take away from the offense because those players need the ball in their hands to be successful.

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    Couple things. The 36M saved would be from the Pelicans persective. That's of course if they can pull off two seperate trades because no team is going to take on both those salaries ( Gordon one year and Tyreke three years). Both are guards which the Spurs aren't currently in short supply of. RC Buford, ever since the RJ trade hasn't been willing to gamble on big player contracts. Without the need for guards and the available cap space in the future, Tyreke is a no go and Gordon really isn't an upgrade over Mills at this point.

    If the Spurs mak a move, it will be one of those far less talked about deals that has less to do with putting them over the top and more to do with regular season minutes eating and backend of the rotation depth at SF. I'll be shocked if the Spurs are part of a blockbuster. If they are, it would almost certainly be a three-way.

    Also, Belinelli isn't going to be traded. As bad as his defense is, Gordon and Tyreke haven't proven to be any better. If anything, you'll probably take away from the offense because those players need the ball in their hands to be successful.
    Was talking about Evans only. Completely forgot Gordon was in the discussion. The 36 comes from Evans' 44 minus the minimum 8 in expirings. No interest in Gordon. Otherwise agree with you.

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    Jeff Green would be an ideal addition tbh. Nice to dream.

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    Apparently Demarre Carroll did a good job defending LeBron tonight, his name has come up from time to time, if only Hawks weren't in the playoffs maybe Coach Bud could help us out.

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    Apparently Demarre Carroll did a good job defending LeBron tonight, his name has come up from time to time, if only Hawks weren't in the playoffs maybe Coach Bud could help us out.
    He is someone I thought the Spurs should have gone after in the offseason. That Bud & Ferry picked him up suggests that he must have been on the Spurs' radar. Good pick up for them.

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    Benu Udrih requested a trade-according to hoops hype

    http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

    Cheap enough, experienced as well. Depth at PG behind Parker & Mills.

    A proposal...

    Iman Shumpert
    Beno Udrih

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    Knicks move Shumpert, who has seen his stock fall. (7 pgg in 28 minutes, 39%FG, 35% 3PT) Save more than $8.5 million in luxury tax next season+ his $2.7 million dollar salary.

    Move Udrih, who requested a trade less than half a season after being taking a 1 year deal with the Knicks.

    Bonner's & De Colo's contract are up at the end of the season. They can't stop anyone any way. Bonner fills the role as an elite floor spacer. De Colo would essentially be a tryout for next season.

    Spurs get Shumpert, who can benefit from the open shots our offense can create.

    Has defensive rep. (though, is to rather overrated in that area) he does have the the potential. He's 6'5 1/2, 6'9 1/2 wing span 42 max vert according to draft express

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    Knicks won't give up Shumpert for a 2nd round pick + end of the bench players.

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    Knicks won't give up Shumpert for a 2nd round pick + end of the bench players.
    Stock dropping. They'd save about $10 million, if I did the math right. They did trade a 1st rounder for Barg. That pick could be in the lottery.

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    The Spurs don't usually go after players with an ego and at ude. He'd have a very forgettable and short stay in San Antonio.

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    The Spurs don't usually go after players with an ego and at ude. He'd have a very forgettable and short stay in San Antonio.
    Yet they tried to get JR Smith since he got into the league and got SJax not once but twice... They don't mind at ude that much imo as long as you're good enough and working your ass off...

    While it's not my first choice I don't see how Gordon is not an obvious fit for us, gives us another great shooter/creator and takes our two worst defenders out of the rotation...

    Splitter for Gordon
    and then a second move for a bigger wing or even a combo forward, using Bonner and even Beli or no one if it's someone who gets availlable following a buy out...

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    Yet they tried to get JR Smith since he got into the league and got SJax not once but twice... They don't mind at ude that much imo as long as you're good enough and working your ass off...

    While it's not my first choice I don't see how Gordon is not an obvious fit for us, gives us another great shooter/creator and takes our two worst defenders out of the rotation...

    Splitter for Gordon
    and then a second move for a bigger wing or even a combo forward, using Bonner and even Beli or no one if it's someone who gets availlable following a buy out...
    We'd have Duncan, Diaw, Leonard and Ayers rotation. Only one of those players can protect the rim and he'd be 38 at the end of the regular season. But adding another combo four could allow us to match up better against OKC, GSW and Miami.

    Gordon does add $5.6 million to the cap next season. We'd have 10 players under contract for $58.5 million. With Mills and Diaw both FAs.

    Pelicans Get
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    Bonner
    De Colo

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    Gordon
    Aminu
    future protected 1st rounder


    Hornets get a true center to pair with Davis. A replacement stretch PF, with Anderson out up to two months. De Colo is essentially a tryout for next season.
    Both Bonner and De Colo are free agents after this season. They'd only be on the hook for the rest of Splitters $36 million dollar deal, which is front-loaded.

    Spurs get Gordon, a very good scorer & Aminu who is a long & athletic combo forward

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    The Spurs do not need another guard, especially one on a max contract who would be the fourth- or fifth-best player on the team. And it sure doesn't make sense to trade for Gordon without moving Beli. Aminu is nice, but only if he can be had for Bonner and sweeteners.

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    The Spurs do not need another guard, Aminu is nice, but only if he can be had for Bonner and sweeteners.
    Amniu. Ive been wanting this guy for the past two season. Make it happen RC!

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