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Odd post considering the FO strategy has completely had the Spurs in the playoffs and close to a 5th le.
This is some stereotypical bull right here. The Spurs are one of the worst at recruiting players. Mid tier players will play anywhere. The problem is that the Spurs are so busy trying to fit square pegs into round holes, they miss out on some of the mid tier athletes. Mo william's stops were Utah and Portland. Are you saying the Spurs could not compete with the likes of those two? Hickson's last three stops were Cleveland, Portland and Denver. Same question posed. These athletes are looking at three things, money, length of contract/security and playing time. The Spurs aren't your prototypical organization. They don't shop domestic, the shop international. This lightning in a bottle approach to GM'ing might net you a diamond in the rough every once in a while, but let's get real, the majority are severely flawed and some aren't NBA material at all. This organization is being run like your local Ma and Pa store. They don't want to pay a little more for proven talent. They want to pay less and squeeze every ounce of talent out of that far less superior player (De Colo, Baynes, CoJo, Bonner). The problem with this is in most cases, you get what you pay for and you leave yourself with very few desirable assets. Gone are the days where you can nab a Parker late first round or Ginobili second round. I said it them and I'll say it now... RJ has single handedly ruined RC Buford even after being long gone. The NBA landscape is ever changing and with age catching up with two of three of its stars, the margin for error is shrinking. The Spurs FO doesn't want to make those tough changes like releasing De Colo or CoJo, or amnesty/trading Bonner. The fans deserve better than what this FO is willing to dish out.
Odd post considering the FO strategy has completely had the Spurs in the playoffs and close to a 5th le.
What strategy? If that strategy was to rely on the big three to get them into the playoffs and win postseason games, yeah, mission accomplished. That would have been my strategy too and I'm not even employed by them.
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The strategy was to try and be a playoff team so you could compete for a le. Mission accomplished.
It doesn't look like that strategy is paying off this year. The big three need help and the Spurs bring in Ayres and Belinelli. Offense over defense doesn't win championships.
Sure, but they are battling for the best record in the West. They will make the playoffs and they will have a shot at winning it all. They brought in Tiago Splitter, Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard. Those guys help.
Um... What? I was replying to DPG's post saying midtier guys don't worry about endorsements. They do, and local spots in big markets pay well. Stars will get tons of endorsements anywhere. MLE guys will get more ad money in big markets. Many players were recruited for such reasons.
Anyway, I don't know why you keep using the FO's mistakes when talking to me. I agree with you on that. They misplayed this off-season, even counting the built-in disadvantages they had. It's hard to say they are generally incompetent given their track record. But they definitely didn't make the most of their opportunity.
Locating Spurs issue is as easy as it could be. Spurs are 1-10 against Rockets, Pacers, Clippers, Thunder, Heat and Blazers. In 9 of the 10 losses, they have allowed 109 points or more.
It's as clear as it could be: Spurs have a defensive issue against contenders.
Once the diagnosis is made, it's time to look for a possible cure. Players coming back from injuries and playing with more intensities might help but it's not sure it would be enough especially since some of these 9 losses where with Spurs at full strength. Aside of that, a trade seems like the only other possibility...
Thank you. This is what I've been trying to say. No one is asking the FO to win the Kobe lebron d12 sweepstakes . But you are ting me if you'd rather pay less for a less talented player like a Jeff ayers than more money for a guy like mo Williams. . The FO deserves so much criticism in this regard
I wasn't quite implying about Melo or Lebron James. I meant if (most any other player) was in the open market and the Spurs offered him a fair deal, would he simply pass up the deal to go to any other destination.
Would a player take the minimum to play in Chicago or the mini mid level to play in San Antonio.
is it acceptable to say the belinelli signing was bad now? benefactor and hater please say your opinion on the matter
Watching Pop during that game I was thinking that he might realized no matter what we do and how much we try we are never gonna surpass those athletic teams. They are better on D and better on O. All those years we had a sight on a championship but now it looks like championship is not for us.
I wonder how the Houston game will go.
Why beli signing would be bad ? It's a solid signing... Not sure what's your point
False.Chump denied fwiw, but SA210 was stealth banned afterwards while Kori Ellis' most recent visitor was Chump.
Beli signing is not a bad deal, it's okay if it's coming off the bench but man should not be starting, kills the defense.
We lack the personnel to really run the motion offense perfectly, we try to mold players to do the job. I'm not sure what system I'd run but if we had a wing like Kyle Korver I'd say sure, or if we have a 4 or 5 who could step out and hit a 3 and play defense then Flex/Motion makes sense.
Maybe if nobody comes calling Lionel Hollins try to get him as an assistant to help shore up defense. I wonder what PJ is doing?
so the bench doesn't need to defend in the play offs? if i remember the comments about the signing were:
-obvious defensive upgrade compared to neal
-very high bball iq
-has big balls
-can be our playmaker, he can create his own shot
-he improved so much defensively with thibs
i think it's becoming obvious that:
-he's a defensive downgrade to neal, which is saying something
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-yeah, that's why when he's needed he s the bed
-memphis game should have closed the discussion about this, and honestly he's not been creating , he only gets what is given to him off the screen, which is fine in theory
-yeah, no he did not, not by any means. his D is an absolute joke and he's making our perimeter D a bottom 3 in the league
Did Marco knock you up?
Marco is actually having his best defensive year considering his DRtg and is having a monster year in ORtg, he passes the ball better than Neal and can dribble the ball better. Has better percentages for 2 point FG's and 3 point FG's. He plays a position on the Spurs that is stacked so his asset is to hit shots with the 2nd unit which I hope he goes back to with Manu. They have a great tempo with the personnel out there. He's only meant to spell players as everyone's minutes will go up in the playoffs so he'll rotate between the 2 and the 3 but still don't expect him to play more than 20 minutes a game.so the bench doesn't need to defend in the play offs? if i remember the comments about the signing were:
-obvious defensive upgrade compared to neal
-very high bball iq
-has big balls
-can be our playmaker, he can create his own shot
-he improved so much defensively with thibs
i think it's becoming obvious that:
-he's a defensive downgrade to neal, which is saying something
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-yeah, that's why when he's needed he s the bed
-memphis game should have closed the discussion about this, and honestly he's not been creating , he only gets what is given to him off the screen, which is fine in theory
-yeah, no he did not, not by any means. his D is an absolute joke and he's making our perimeter D a bottom 3 in the league
Chump denied fwiw, but SA210 was stealth banned afterwards while Kori Ellis' most recent visitor was Chump
Yeah sa210 is so banned he just posted.
It's part of her shtick to hate on Belinelli even when he's been decent this season.
I absolutely hate Belinelli on the defensive end and I really hope he isn't starting when Danny comes back. The Spurs can afford to handle Danny Green's offensive struggles, but not Marco's defensive struggles. However, Marco has been a solid addition anyway. I think he's far from being one of the problems on our team.
Yeah and this is about IT, period end of story....
so our problem is that our best perimeter defenders are out and the one who replaces them isn't the problem? how is that possible tbh.. Also, our perimeter D sucked very bad even when they were healthy, and that's because we had either belinelli, patty or manu in. So how is he not the problem?
I do think a lot of our defensive struggles have to do with Marco, but I don't think it means the team should trade him or that I think he was a bad signing. I'm sure you feel what I don't about him. He brings enough value on offense that I can live with it. That's why I don't think he's a problem on our team. He's essentially a better version of Gary Neal. I'll take that. I will be pissed though if he's still a starter when Green is healthy.
it was a bad signing especially because it did not solve any of the problems, it just gave more depth in a position where we were already too stacked. we should have signed either a defensive stopper or a two way player veteran or young i don't care. We choosed the easy way and it came down to hunt us.
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