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The Spurs aren't trading Green. Dunno why you lump him in with the Toros Crew.
Its a realistic trade, i believe, N.O wouldn't take on any salary past this season. Smith is out for the season & Anderson is out for about 2 months. Bonner is a PF and 3pt shooter. He would essentially replace Anderson until he is healthy. They only have one other PF on roster (Davis) with Stiemsma, Withey, & Ajinca at center.
He is on a 1 year deal worth $3.7 million. If they decide to take a dive on the season, moving a starter for a fringe rotation player is the way to go. Getting 2 second rounders would be better than nothing considering Aminu is a free agent after this season. They're not getting a 1st rounder for him anyways.
The Spurs aren't trading Green. Dunno why you lump him in with the Toros Crew.
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Trade rumble: Clippers "itchy" to make a deal and Jared Dudley, with PT harder to come by and logjam at wing spots, is unexpectedly in play
Interesting. High IQ player with low athleticism and marginal production and average efficiency. Could fit the Spurs' look in for a backup SF. Trouble is his contract ($4.25 million) extends till 2016 (last year an ETO).
Amazing how far his stock has dropped over the course of a year. But he's someone Cleveland should target. Afflalo would be better, of course, but Dudley could be a long-term answer at the wing. Jack for Dudley and Collison should work salary-wise.
I'd take Dudley on the Spurs in a heartbeat. Problem is I don't think he's worth a first rounder and I doubt they'd take Bonner/Baynes and De Colo.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mtwfurh
Cavs get Dudley, Afflalo and Collision. Clippers get Jack. Magic get Bennett and Waiters.
Cavs get two vet wings on long-term value deals who can bring production and a steady had to their team. They also cut some dead weight and are in great shape to poor their remaining resources into acquiring a star big in the off-season.
Clippers get Paul's BFF and clear the wing rotation.
Magic get two former top-five picks for a player they probably don't want to keep anyway. They probably won't see a better haul. The can also tank more effectively.
Good scenario but I think the return is a bit too low for Afflalo...
Question: why are we discussing trades in the Spurs forum that DON'T INCLUDE THE SPURS?
Why not?
Ersan Ilyasova wants out of Milwaukee -
http://www.bucksketball.com/2014/02/...-of-milwaukee/
Contract of $8 million/year odd till 2016-17 but last year is guaranteed only for $400,000. Could be a better stretch 4 than Bonner and has a history of being a good rebounder. Has struggled this season in a dismal Bucks squad, but he could be a better backup 4 than Ayres, certainly. Also another body to throw at Lebron, if needed.
Last edited by Spursfanfromafar; 02-05-2014 at 12:05 PM.
I'm not sure you put Ilyasova on Lebron tbh, his value is mostly on offense anyways.
I'd like him on the team, with this international group he could get acclimated pretty quickly.
If they decide to start Boris trading for him makes even more sense... You'd have Boris who is a bad rebounder between Tim and Kawhi which is great balance and Ilyasova who is a great rebounder with the small second unit (with Manu at SF) which could be excellent balance as well. He doesn't help the defense one bit outside of that tho which is what makes me a bit hesitant.
any trade that is leaving diaw worth even be spoken
We've talked about Ilyasova for years. He'd be a great fit next to Duncan or Splitter. He'd also be a good piece for the post-Duncan era.
I've never watched him, how is he defensively?
I don't think he was that good. He had Mbah a Moute to protect him until this season. He's obviously physical enough to be a good rebounder, and he's agile enough to play the three. So physically, he should be able to be a serviceable defender with the Medium Three and Duncan to protect him.
"Now, 49 games into the year, the team is 12th in the East, and it's become clear that the Celtics are going to be sellers at the deadline.
According to ESPN's Chris Broussard (subscription required), "[Danny] Ainge is looking to clear as much cap room as soon as he can, so if he can find takers for Gerald Wallace, Jeff Green and Avery Bradley, they're gone."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1946633-potential-2014-nba-trade-dealine-steals/page/2
Trade
Matt Bonner
Jeff Ayers
Nando De Colo
For
Gerald Wallace
Avery Bradley
(they would have to use the Paul Pierce trade exception to make the deal work, trade machine wouldn't let me use it for some reason)
Spurs get Wallace as backup SF. Obviously not on a great deal but an experienced small forward has been known for his defensive and rebounding in the past. Bradley gives us a defensive pest that can help guard the likes of Lillard, Curry, Westbrook.
The deal would push the Spurs close to the luxury tax next season, however. But they could always shed some salary by moving Beli and or Joseph.
Boston saves about $22 million dollars (even including Ayers contract next season) or the next two seasons. Would drop their cap to $34.7 million (roughly next season) with the salary cap set at $60.5 million.
if its not an expiring SF then no at dat $
It doesn't work because salaries don't match. Those three players can let the Spurs take back about $10.8 Million. Boston is sending out $12 Million+.
I understand that part, but could either trade exception (Pierce's or Lee's) be used to bridge the gap?
Nope. The TE would allow Boston to take more salary, not send more out. The Spurs would need at TE to make the deal work.
Well time to see what Nando, CJ can do to their trade value if Parker misses any games.
All the spurs need is get rid of De Culo Corey, Bonner, Errors
Hopefully Nando's nice stint tonight helped his trade value..
I understand now. So there is actually no way to make that deal work then without giving up the essiential players.
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