I'd only trade Leonard for an above-average small-forward and a really good asset. Chandler and NYC's pick or Ariza and Porter. Afflalo and Denver's first.
The trade deadline is fun because it's silly.
Yep, the part about Leonard sounds like speculation and that's why I haven't posted it in a new thread.
What is possible though is that Amico has eared that Spurs were active on the trade front. It would confirm what Berger reported few weeks ago.
If Manu comes back and is halfway decent Belli will flourish off the bench. Transition scoring and open shots when the ball gets swung his way.
The possibility of trading Whiwhi is interesting but every time it has been brought up people get mad as ...
I'd only trade Kawhi is that allowed to reload for the post Duncan era. Meaning lottery pick in 2014 or 2015 + a SF.
People act like Pop didn't trade his "favorite player" in the past because he was a questionable fit long term... Also there's some injury concerns when it comes to Kawhi...
From DX mock draft :
These are the picks I'd trade for, anything less wouldn't be worth it.7Noah Vonleh PF/C
18 years old; 6'10"; 242 lbs.
Indiana, Freshman
8Aaron Gordon PF
18 years old; 6'9"; 212 lbs.
Arizona, Freshman
9
Tyler Ennis PG
19 years old; 6'2"; 180 lbs.Syracuse, Freshman
10
Gary Harris SG
19 years old; 6'5"; 210 lbs.
Michigan State, Sop re
If we can get one of Vonleh/Aaron Gordon/Saric who'd be our PF of the future, then trading Kawhi becomes an option.
The Charlotte pick seems like the most gettable, something like MKG + pick for Kawhi + Beli...
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More realistic, but I wouldn't want the Spurs to do it, tbh.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...or-Right-Price
I don't think anyone's brought up Faried, though. Without a jump shot he's not a great fit, but he'd be interesting if the "right price" were low enough. He fits with the 2015 plan, if such a thing exists.
I don't Ginobili can be relied upon that this point. If he comes back healthy , great. But his hamstrings can go out at any moment now. The Spurs can't afford to have this happen late in a playoff series when they have an opportunity to adress this now.
It would be just like the Spurs to have to trade Leonard to get rid of some combination of Bonner, Baynes, NDC, and Joseph.
Of course not, hamstrings just don't get better during a season with a few weeks off especially if it's chronic but spurs rewarded him with cash and didn't plan for an injury. So we are stuck with what we have, nobody is coming in and playing
Come now. The point of trading Leonard is to get someone better in return. The Spurs don't need to dump any of those 4 players, they're all on expiring deals. They hardly get any playing time when everyone is healthy; you're just seeing a lot of them because of injuries and Pop's proclivity to limit everyone's minutes. It would take injuries, a good matchup (LAL or MEM last year for Bonner and Baynes), foul trouble, or a blowout to see any of those 4 in a playoff game.
This is not the same team that made it to the finals last yr... As much as i hate to say it, they have as a collective group lost a step... Now injuries of of coarse have played a part in this, but even in the 1st part of the season we still were unable to beat elite teams with all are players healthy.. I don't want to see a trade made just for the sake of making a trade... Spurs need to get longer and a bit more athletic... And the only way i see that happening is for a trade... Now do they have anything of value that other teams can build around, i don't know.. I see things from a spurs fan perspective and think heck yes trade Bonner/DeColo/Joseph for Josh Smith, but what of value would say a team like Detroit see in it.. Does that make them better????????
but i'd like to see a trade made!!!! will t happen... I don't know but it would show us Spurs fans that they are serious about winning..
The Spurs are not trading Kawhi.
http://grantland.com/features/the-nba-swap-meet/
"Salary-based desperation isn’t what it used to be. Expirings like Trevor Ariza, Rodney Stuckey, Charlie Villanueva, Paul Pierce, and Danny Granger aren’t the carrots they once were. Washington and Indiana have been active on this front, per several league sources, but have found little traction so far."
I saw that article earlier and forgot to post it. Thanks.
It also said Wilson Chandler and Jason Thompson may be on the block for really cheap in addition to Afflalo. A deal is definitely out there if the Spurs want it.
"I've been hearing since the fall that Kenneth Faried is available. at the right price, and sources across the league maintain that remains true as we approach the deadline. (Denver has consistently denied this.) They should be ready to give away JaVale McGee if they find a taker, and the Nuggets have a lot of midsize salaries, including Prof. Miller’s, that are handy in trades."-Zach Lowe
http://grantland.com/features/the-nba-swap-meet/
Split balling here but ...
Marco Belinelli
1st round pick
for
Kenneth Faried
Sure thing. There are a lot of players out there that are reportedly available (like Chandler, Thompson, Afflalo, etc.), but I still have a hard time believing they're available for Bonner, De Colo, Baynes, and a first round pick. What kind of trade can you see Denver agreeing to for Chandler, for example?
Sounds plausible, but doesn't that solve one problem and create another?
Probably adding another. Assets like LJC or Bertans. Who knows, though? De Colo is working his way up toward being worth a second-rounder. He may be considered enough. Maybe Joseph.
The Spurs should do that for Chandler, even though I'm pretty excited about Jean-Charles and Bertans (obviously). It still seems like Denver's going to get more for him, if they do trade him. On another note, isn't Chandler hurt a lot? How big of a concern is that?
Probably not too big if he plays Ginobili minutes. He's missed eight games so far this season after missing most of last season. I don't think he's Mr. Glass or anything, but he's probably best served as a utility bench player.
I thought we were supposed to be trying become a better defensive team...trading Leonard isn't going to help that.
I'd rather see Marco get traded.
A silver lining of Spurs recent losses is that it makes their 2014 first round pick a little more attractive.
I was mulling over a Kawhi + filler for Deng and Waiters deal, but then I saw Deng's salary. I thought it was something like $11M but dayum, it's $14.3M. Him and Waiters make a combined $18M and the Spurs can't get close enough to that without throwing in the entire bench, probably including Diaw. So nevermind on that.
If Wilson Chandler can be had he'd be a great get. Only two more seasons on his contract after this one, the last one only $2M guaranteed. I wouldn't give up Kawhi for him (for both Chandler and Faried, though...?), but definitely anyone outside the top 7 and a first-rounder would be expendable for him.
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