Official Trade/Signing Ideas Thread

[DPG21920]

We can certainly agree to disagree. It's not like this is going to happen anyway.

That said, I would think Phoenix likes their wings, since they are powering the Suns' surprise playoff push, along with Dragic. You don't blow that up to get a player having a worse season.

Chicago can only do Hinrich (their starting PG) and Dunlevy for Chandler. Any other combination puts them above the tax. They weren't willing to pay the tax for Deng ultimately; they're not going to pay it for a lesser player. Also, I doubt the Bulls amnesty Boozer just to get $9 Million in cap space. May as well keep him for that much.

Well, by that logic, to me, why trade for Pau who's having an off, injury plagued season when guys like Plumlee are propelling them to the playoffs? The fact is, Wilson has been good for years and by all accounts is a better player than any of their wings IMO.

As I said about CHI, they can do the trade you mentioned and still be under the LT so it's not an issue. If they don't amnesty Boozer, then they won't have cap space even if they move Dunleavy. That's the entire point about mention cap space with regards to the Bulls per reports. Cap space only comes into play for them if Boozer is traded for no returning salary or amnestied. Even with Chandler, they could still have good cap space.

They were willing to pay for Deng. They just didn't want to go above a certain number and obviously Deng wanted to test FA and CHI had to make a decision. However, CHI did make Deng a compe ive offer.

But if the Bulls don't trade for Wilson and trade guys like Dunleavy/Kirk to maximize their potential, they would still have to move Boozer/amnesty him for cap space to be there. So the question is: Get Wilson + 8/9M in cap space or don't get Wilson and get 14M in cap space. You could definitely argue getting 14M in cap space is the better option, but I could see how getting two good pieces (Wilson + 8M FA) would be appealing too..

[Chinook]

Well, by that logic, to me, why trade for Pau who's having an off, injury plagued season when guys like Plumlee are propelling them to the playoffs? The fact is, Wilson has been good for years and by all accounts is a better player than any of their wings IMO.

As I said about CHI, they can do the trade you mentioned and still be under the LT so it's not an issue. If they don't amnesty Boozer, then they won't have cap space even if they move Dunleavy. That's the entire point about mention cap space with regards to the Bulls per reports. Cap space only comes into play for them if Boozer is traded for no returning salary or amnestied. Even with Chandler, they could still have good cap space.

The Bulls may well be open to this trade next off-season, but by no means can I see them being keen on buying a player now, especially when they only have one straight-up offer they can give.

They were willing to pay for Deng. They just didn't want to go above a certain number and obviously Deng wanted to test FA and CHI had to make a decision. However, CHI did make Deng a compe ive offer.

But if the Bulls don't trade for Wilson and trade guys like Dunleavy/Kirk to maximize their potential, they would still have to move Boozer/amnesty him for cap space to be there. So the question is: Get Wilson + 8/9M in cap space or don't get Wilson and get 14M in cap space. You could definitely argue getting 14M in cap space is the better option, but I could see how getting two good pieces (Wilson + 8M FA) would be appealing too..

Going backwards.

Boozer, Dunlvey and two mid-sized deals could be even better, and it would certainly be cheaper. Plus, a deal for Chandler would cost them about as much as they got from Deng. Or at least it would foe them to be able to beat the Spurs' best offer. Seems like a waste to lose flexibility for a net-neutral transaction.

And you act like dealing on of two PGs on the team is a minor thing. Yheyd certainly have to sign another for the min. But who? It certainly doesn't make the Bulls better this season to have Jimmy Butler running the point.

[DPG21920]

Kirk is often injured anyways so they will likely end up needing another PG whether they trade him or not. Bulls could easily beat the Spurs offer, but after my convo with Shamsports about this subject, he is not high on Wilson Chandler and doesn't think the Bulls should/would entertain it. He thinks cap space is the plan (meaning they will trade Dunleavy and amnesty Boozer).

The reason I agree with him/you now is because a new piece of info. I was operating under the assumption the Bulls really wanted Deng back (hence the offer). He said the Bulls knew he would say no to their offer and moved onto their cap space plan accordingly.

Either way, there are still quite a few teams I can see where Wilson could help and they could beat the Spurs offer, but maybe I am overvaluing Wilson Chandler and how good other teams think he is.

[Budkin]

rumors about trading Kawhi. ing stupid.

[look_at_g_shred]

rumors about trading Kawhi. ing stupid.

[Vic Petro]

Clearly this is a BS rumor, but no player should be untouchable unless it's TD. Everybody has a price.

[Mugen]

Would be a real shame if the Spurs stood pat considering they have 4 or 5 useless players at the end of the bench that have tradeable contracts tbh. Still holding out hope for a Bonner/Nando/Baynes for Marvin Williams type deal. That's 3 white guys for what I believe is the darkest Jazz player, might be very enticing to the Utah FO. We could even throw in Bertans to sweeten the deal tbh.

[sexinthatsx]

rumors about trading Kawhi. ing stupid.

Let's be honest, all the posters on here value Kawhi like he's the next coming of Scottie Pippen. Truth is, he's still developing, and there are a couple players in mind that I would trade Kawhi Leonard for... including: Lebron James, Kevin Love, or Marc Gasol.

[DapDaGenius]

Let's be honest, all the posters on here value Kawhi like he's the next coming of Scottie Pippen. Truth is, he's still developing, and there are a couple players in mind that I would trade Kawhi Leonard for... including: Lebron James, Kevin Love, or Marc Gasol.

I think everyone would want to trade Kawhi, if it meant getting Lebron. Well, except those who are still extremely bitter about Game 6.

[sexinthatsx]

If trading Kawhi meant getting the pick for Andrew Wiggins, I personally would highly consider it...

[Seventyniner]

Clearly this is a BS rumor, but no player should be untouchable unless it's TD. Everybody has a price.

Agree. Kawhi is nowhere near untouchable. A trade that nets a better starting SF and another asset would have to be at least considered.

[HI-FI]

Would be a real shame if the Spurs stood pat considering they have 4 or 5 useless players at the end of the bench that have tradeable contracts tbh. Still holding out hope for a Bonner/Nando/Baynes for Marvin Williams type deal. That's 3 white guys for what I believe is the darkest Jazz player, might be very enticing to the Utah FO. We could even throw in Bertans to sweeten the deal tbh.

damn that suck if Kawhi was traded. I started to think he was the savior.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Nothing is going to happen, guys.

The guys we got is what we got. We might get out of the first round.

[Robz4000]

Kawhi isn't untradeable but the deal would have to be great. Can't see a team really making any offer like that.

[dbreiden83080]

Kawhi has been worse this year and now he is hurt. Trade value is pretty low right now so any deal is kind of pointless..

[TheGoldStandard]

Nothing is going to happen, guys.

The guys we got is what we got. We might get out of the first round.

Spurs will target A 6'2 shooting guard in the draft

[wildchild]

Agree. Kawhi is nowhere near untouchable. A trade that nets a better starting SF and another asset would have to be at least considered.

Better SF than Kawhi:
1-James
2-Durant
3-Paul George
4-Carmelo Anthony
5-? Maybe Deng/Rudy Gay/Josh Smith?

How do you think these guys are going to come at here for a 2M contract guy -like Leonard this season-? Equal value and money in a deal...Leonard/Bonner/DeColo contracts aren't enough

Gordon Hayward/Chandler Parsons (Kawhi's defense>Parsons)? Utah and Rockets don't seem willing to trade their young talents.

[DPG21920]

Better SF than Kawhi:
1-James
2-Durant
3-Paul George
4-Carmelo Anthony
5-? Maybe Deng/Rudy Gay/Josh Smith?

How do you think these guys are going to come at here for a 2M contract guy -like Leonard this season-? Equal value and money in a deal...

Gordon Hayward/Chandler Parsons (Kawhi's defense>Parsons)? Utah and Rockets don't seem willing to trade their young talents.

I'd put him above Deng/Gay/Smith as a 3 no doubt. Especially if you factor in future ability to grow. But to answer your question, the Spurs would have to package Kawhi with guys like Bonner/Ayres/De Colo to get the amount of money up. If they did something like that, they could get back a guy making 10M+

They shouldn't even consider dealing Kawhi unless it's just a stupid offer which doesn't happen unless you are LA.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Could we swing Kawhi for Andre Drummond some kinda way?

[wildchild]

I'd put him above Deng/Gay/Smith as a 3 no doubt. Especially if you factor in future ability to grow. But to answer your question, the Spurs would have to package Kawhi with guys like Bonner/Ayres/De Colo to get the amount of money up. If they did something like that, they could get back a guy making 10M+

They shouldn't even consider dealing Kawhi unless it's just a stupid offer which doesn't happen unless you are LA.

Sorry, I edited it saying Leonard/Bonner/DeColo contracts aren't enough

[Chinook]

I'd deal Kawhi for a starter and a top-five pick. Ariza and Porter, Tobias Harris and Orlando's unprotected first. That sort of thing. As awesome as Leonard can be, he needs to get his shot back or he's not going to be a good fit going forward. I don't think Leonard will be a star, but his production from last year is not easy to replace. If he can shoot better (as he was starting) he'd be hard to move. If not, there are more than a handful of threes who could match or better Leonard's production.

[tholdren]

If trading Kawhi meant getting the pick for Andrew Wiggins, I personally would highly consider it...

andrew wiggins sux

[DesignatedT]

Hard to really tell what Kawhi can be in this system. I expect the Spurs to hold onto him and find out though. That means after the Duncan era.

[sexinthatsx]

andrew wiggins sux

He's very raw on offense, but his defense is pretty strong

[sexinthatsx]

Better SF than Kawhi:
1-James
2-Durant
3-Paul George
4-Carmelo Anthony
5-? Maybe Deng/Rudy Gay/Josh Smith?

How do you think these guys are going to come at here for a 2M contract guy -like Leonard this season-? Equal value and money in a deal...Leonard/Bonner/DeColo contracts aren't enough

Gordon Hayward/Chandler Parsons (Kawhi's defense>Parsons)? Utah and Rockets don't seem willing to trade their young talents.

I would NOT trade Kawhi Leonard for Carmelo... not in a million years