Official Trade/Signing Ideas Thread

[Spursfanfromafar]

The question behind the need to acquire a good PF (Ilyasova or another player) is the Duncan/Splitter pairing:
How much should they been paired when there isn't a matchup issue?
When they can't be paired because of the matchup, can the newly acquired PF play or should Spurs go with Kawhi at PF?

I think the Splitter-Duncan underwhelming minutes this season is more a case of timing (Duncan's early season blues) and sample size (Splitter's later injury woes). I don't think they had a decent run enough to say that the pairing has done badly.

Having said that Diaw-Duncan is also an useful pairing against a certain set of frontcourts.

I think there is no need to disturb the top end of the front court (Duncan, Diaw & Splitter) and instead there is a need to shore up the awful perimeter defense that is clearly suffering because of structural imbalance (the lack of a tall SF behind Kawhi & the overburdened Green).

Anyone of Marvin Williams, Thad Young, Wilson CHandler is therefore an ideal signing rather than a frontcourt replacement.

[TheGoldStandard]

I would like to acquire quincy miller form the nuggets. a 6'9" SF. he has great length. and would be a great backup small forward. getting randolph and fournier would be nice too. I now they aren't the big names we want. but they could be had for what we have to offer. they bring youth, length, and athleticism. Miller and Fournier are both very good shooters too. and Randolph gives us a very good long athletic PF.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mwtxul6 throw in a draft pick and pray that Denver would help us

[palangi]

[Chinook]

If Wilson Chandler is available, Spurs have to go after him; he would add a lot of versatility to the roster. I'd prefer a big SF that can play some small ball PF over a mobile true PF.

These are some of the plays Denver runs when they have Chandler at small ball PF: http://www.sbnation.com/2013/4/19/42...ilson-chandler

He would be another guy to throw at LeBron/Durant.

One helpful aspect in this situation is that Denver has SF depth (Miller and Hamilton); and they could use some PG depth (something Spurs have an excess of).

Big question, would Chandler be ok with not starting?

Great article, and I agree Chandler would be ideal for dictating matchups. I think he'd be fine not starting as he's come off the bench a lot in his career. I especially think he'd be okay with in on a contender. Plus, he probably needs to start doing that for his health.

Also, why not run the pick-and-fade play for Leonard when he plays at the four?

[Spurs da champs]

^^ Marvin Williams would be the best fit of those 3 listed, he's a decent defender, shoots the 3 well, & has great size/strength to play either forward position. I think he would best help the Spurs combat the Thunder & Heat, as well as the other athletic teams that give the Spurs trouble.

Anyone aware of how much would the Spurs have to give up?

[TheGoldStandard]

I think the Splitter-Duncan underwhelming minutes this season is more a case of timing (Duncan's early season blues) and sample size (Splitter's later injury woes). I don't think they had a decent run enough to say that the pairing has done badly.

Having said that Diaw-Duncan is also an useful pairing against a certain set of frontcourts.

I think there is no need to disturb the top end of the front court (Duncan, Diaw & Splitter) and instead there is a need to shore up the awful perimeter defense that is clearly suffering because of structural imbalance (the lack of a tall SF behind Kawhi & the overburdened Green).

Anyone of Marvin Williams, Thad Young, Wilson CHandler is therefore an ideal signing rather than a frontcourt replacement.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lay5ak9

This trade works without Ayres but if we can somehow include him everything we do we win big.

[TheGoldStandard]

^^ Marvin Williams would be the best fit of those 3 listed, he's a decent defender, shoots the 3 well, & has great size/strength to play either forward position. I think he would best help the Spurs combat the Thunder & Heat, as well as the other athletic teams that give the Spurs trouble.

Anyone aware of how much would the Spurs have to give up?

Bonner, De Colo and Ayres for good measure.. probably a draft pick because those guys flat out suck hard but that takes cash off the books to help them sign Gordon. Marvin Williams is also a quiet guy, does a lot of things decent enough but not flashy. Good spurs fit

[ace3g]

Wilson Chandler also has the ability to make some plays off the dribble if a play falls apart.

[Spursfanfromafar]

^^ Marvin Williams would be the best fit of those 3 listed, he's a decent defender, shoots the 3 well, & has great size/strength to play either forward position. I think he would best help the Spurs combat the Thunder & Heat, as well as the other athletic teams that give the Spurs trouble.

Anyone aware of how much would the Spurs have to give up?

Bonner + De Colo would suffice. Ayres will need to remain just for being a big body and injury insurance.

[palangi]

[Spurs da champs]

Bonner, De Colo and Ayres for good measure.. probably a draft pick because those guys flat out suck hard but that takes cash off the books to help them sign Gordon. Marvin Williams is also a quiet guy, does a lot of things decent enough but not flashy. Good spurs fit

Apparently the Jazz want a significant offer for Marvin:

"The Jazz are unlikely to make a move before the deadline, unless a significant offer for Marvin Williams or Richard Jefferson emerges, according to Chad Ford of ESPN.com (Insider only)."

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/marvin-williams

[RD2191]

Why would the Nuggets give up Wilson Chandler?

[TheGoldStandard]

Bonner + De Colo would suffice. Ayres will need to remain just for being a big body and injury insurance.

Its addition by subtraction.

[palangi]

[Chinook]

I really don't get the love affair with Marvin Williams. The dude sucks and has always sucked. He's been better as a four, but he's still not likely to make the rotation. He's below Young and just above playing Ayres at the three on my list.

[TheGoldStandard]

Apparently the Jazz want a significant offer for Marvin:

"The Jazz are unlikely to make a move before the deadline, unless a significant offer for Marvin Williams or Richard Jefferson emerges, according to Chad Ford of ESPN.com (Insider only)."

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/marvin-williams

I think Williams comes off the books this season and they are trying to create space to keep Favors and Gordon. Gordon is a RFA and I feel like some team will offer up a ransom for him. Might as well get something for a guy who's just going to walk, which would just be a draft pick essentially

[Chinook]

Why would the Nuggets give up Wilson Chandler?

Denver is near the tax next season despite having a lottery team. It would behoove them to save money and tank a bit.

[RD2191]

Denver is near the tax next season despite having a lottery team. It would behoove them to save money and tank a bit.

I see, thanks.

[TheGoldStandard]

Denver is near the tax next season despite having a lottery team. It would behoove them to save money and tank a bit.

yeah, Gallo, Lawson and McGee are eating up all that cap space.

[Spursfanfromafar]

I really don't get the love affair with Marvin Williams. The dude sucks and has always sucked. He's been better as a four, but he's still not likely to make the rotation. He's below Young and just above playing Ayres at the three on my list.

This season, of the lot that is Chandler, Ilyasova, Williams, Thad Young, Evan Turner, Jeff Green in terms of advanced stats (+/-; adjusted, simple etc, PER-opposition PER, and even RAPM), guess who tops the list?

Marvin Williams.

Thad Young is the best player of the lot and suffers from being in a ty team, but he hasn't played SF at all, while Williams is a traditional SF who could fit the Spurs' requirement as he has played stretch PF all season. The one whom you are slobbering after, Ilyasova has been the worst and has been a negative defender all his career for all his stretch PF gifts.

Besides of all the lot, his is the best contract situation, expiring and his team will demand much lesser than others.

[Spurs da champs]

I think Williams comes off the books this season and they are trying to create space to keep Favors and Gordon. Gordon is a RFA and I feel like some team will offer up a ransom for him. Might as well get something for a guy who's just going to walk, which would just be a draft pick essentially

The extended Favors & I'm not so sure they're willing to overpay Hayward, tho I'd still want Williams, he fits the system the best out of the 3 (Chandler, Young, & Williams), & getting those crappy players in return would help speed the tanking process.

It depends on the Jazz's definition of 'significant', as apparently they want a 'significant' offer for RJ.

[palangi]

Trade with Denver
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mgnbkgw

Nuggets get:

matt bonner
corey joseph
aaron baynes
2nd round pick

Spurs get:

Quincy Miller 6'9" SF- a true SF that can shoot and dribble. has great length and blocks shots. a solid backup for leonard.
Timofey Mosgov 7' C- big and long. much much better than baynes. rebounds very good and blocks shots.
Jordan Hamilton 6'7" SG/SF- a good athlete that can help at both spots. can shoot or drive. can eventually replace green.

PG- parker, mills, de colo
SG- green, bellineli, manu, hamilton
SF- leonard, miller, hamilton
PF- duncan, diaw, ayers
C- splitter, mosgov, ayers

and we have an open spot on the roster too. de colo draws the short end of the stick and is the non dressed player.

[cd021]

A question i'd like to propose to ST. How would you feel if the Spurs stood pat regardless of whether teams like OKC, GSW, or Houston made any moves?

Would the Spurs front office lose some of its luster?

[TheGoldStandard]

The extended Favors & I'm not so sure they're willing to overpay Hayward, tho I'd still want Williams, he fits the system the best out of the 3 (Chandler, Young, & Williams), & getting those crappy players in return would help speed the tanking process.

It depends on the Jazz's definition of 'significant', as apparently they want a 'significant' offer for RJ.

I just noticed that, 31M on the books next season with 10 players on the books.. So some flexability but I do think they give Gordon his chest of gold.. If they're paying Gerald Wallace 10 Mil somewhere and Batum is making 10M.. I'm thinking Gordon gets at least 4/50

[Hoops Czar]

OKC would crush everyone if they made this offer for Chandler:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l3jjr2h

I just read the recent posts. I just threw out the possibility that OKC might go after Chandler. Are they showing interest? Also, there's isn't a snowball's chance in OKC would gve up a player like Reggie Jackson for 37 year old Andre Miller unless this post was meant to be facetious. OKC's FO would get murdered for making this trade and whether or not it helps in the short term, Reggie Jackson is going to be the better player over the long term. Small market teams just dont operate this way. He's still cost controlled for another year before he becomes a restricted free agent.