i was hoping for a wiggum
His first instinct is to run the ball when there is pressure. In the NFL, you must be able to make your reads. Can he read an NFL defense?So what you are saying is that even if a guy like Football has the right pieces around him to win, it is impossible for that team to ring simply bc Football can run?
Also, no way I'm taking a run first QB with the first pick. Short shelf life.
You're claiming Football 'cant win championships'.
This last post of yours is not what I asked, answer the question I posed tbh.
No, he cannot.
One of the most re ed takes I've seen tbh.
Didn't you go to UTSA? You're a disgrace to our uni smh.
I have yet to see why he should be drafted number one other than the excitement factor.
have you noticed you've gone from openminded reserved fan to blind homer without him throwing a single football? That's pretty much what we see every year for no reason, it's called hype machine.
read the OP. that quote is in there. he also went on to say "I don't care if they've had 20 starting quarterbacks since 1999. I'm going to be the 21st and the guy that brought them the Super Bowl."
Carr: 5082 yds, 68.7% cmp, 7.71 YPA, 50 TDs, 8 INTs, 156.1 rating
Football: 4114 yds, 69.9% cmp, 9.59 YPA, 37 TDs, 13 INTs, 172.9 rating
Bortles:3581 yds, 67.8% cmp, 9.37 YPA, 25 TDs, 9 INts, 163.4 rating
Bridgewater: 3970 yds, 71% cmp, 9.3 YPA, 31 TDs, 4 INTs, 171.1 rating
^Theres that but I guess since he can run that gets thrown out the window. SEC compe ion crushes AAC and Mountain West compe ion too.
Am I the one blindly claiming that he will absolutely ring? No, yall are the ones blindly making the opposite claim. The QB position is evolving just like most other positions have over the years. The notion that Football cant ring simply because hes part of the new breed of QB is idiotic.
I mean look at Kaep, hes been on the verge the past two years which also happen to be his first two starting. Put the right pieces around them (just like any other SB QB) and the new breed can be successful. Unless yall actually think Kaeps ability to run magically caused the Niners to come up short and that they always will for that reason?
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His inability to pass certainly submarined their chancesCarr: 5082 yds, 68.7% cmp, 7.71 YPA, 50 TDs, 8 INTs, 156.1 rating
Football: 4114 yds, 69.9% cmp, 9.59 YPA, 37 TDs, 13 INTs, 172.9 rating
Bortles:3581 yds, 67.8% cmp, 9.37 YPA, 25 TDs, 9 INts, 163.4 rating
Bridgewater: 3970 yds, 71% cmp, 9.3 YPA, 31 TDs, 4 INTs, 171.1 rating
^Theres that but I guess since he can run that gets thrown out the window. SEC compe ion crushes AAC and Mountain West compe ion too.
Am I the one blindly claiming that he will absolutely ring? No, yall are the ones blindly making the opposite claim. The QB position is evolving just like most other positions have over the years. The notion that Football cant ring simply because hes part of the new breed of QB is idiotic.
I mean look at Kaep, hes been on the verge the past two years which also happen to be his first two starting. Put the right pieces around them (just like any other SB QB) and the new breed can be successful. Unless yall actually think Kaeps ability to run magically caused the Niners to come up short and that they always will for that reason?
Yet his 130 yds on the ground helped keep it closer than even the GOAT was able to keep it against the Hawks D. Helped him get past Rodgers too.
well, i could ring too if i had the right pieces around me, that's as weak an argument as it gets, and i've heard it quite many times.. It's just a statistical fact and common knowledge that running qbs don't ring, and if they do (rw sort of) they have to cut their runs almost completely. And no, the qb position is not evolving at all.Carr: 5082 yds, 68.7% cmp, 7.71 YPA, 50 TDs, 8 INTs, 156.1 rating
Football: 4114 yds, 69.9% cmp, 9.59 YPA, 37 TDs, 13 INTs, 172.9 rating
Bortles:3581 yds, 67.8% cmp, 9.37 YPA, 25 TDs, 9 INts, 163.4 rating
Bridgewater: 3970 yds, 71% cmp, 9.3 YPA, 31 TDs, 4 INTs, 171.1 rating
^Theres that but I guess since he can run that gets thrown out the window. SEC compe ion crushes AAC and Mountain West compe ion too.
Am I the one blindly claiming that he will absolutely ring? No, yall are the ones blindly making the opposite claim. The QB position is evolving just like most other positions have over the years. The notion that Football cant ring simply because hes part of the new breed of QB is idiotic.
I mean look at Kaep, hes been on the verge the past two years which also happen to be his first two starting. Put the right pieces around them (just like any other SB QB) and the new breed can be successful. Unless yall actually think Kaeps ability to run magically caused the Niners to come up short and that they always will for that reason?
None of those stats matter. LSU dialed back the pass rush while mucking up his running lanes, essentially leaving him in the pocket and daring him to beat them with his arm. They did it both times they played him and they won both times.
As I said before, I think Manziel has the ability to become a good NFL QB...but he needs a season or two to learn how to be a pro.
Again, I have still yet to hear why he should be drafted number one. David Carr had great stats in college. The fact is if you watch tape of Manziel, he can't read a defense. He either locks on to one receiver, or takes off from the pocket.
One of the things he has to fix
There is something noticeable in this videos, which is he does not step into his throws. He doesn't step up in the pocket when there is time, and when he does step up, its when he takes off running. He tries to throw over defenders, which will not work in the NFL.
Fix throwing motion (two hands on the ball)
Ok, MJ. You little QB guru.
Yeah, no. Doesn't matter who you are you need quality pieces around you.
And they're the only ones that tried to employ that strategy? I do agree that he isn't a finished product and needs to continue improving but let's also not act like containing him was as simple as 'mucking up the rushing lanes'.
"Vick beat Favre back in the day." Yeah, 12 years back in the day
The playoff game the year before that Favre threw 6 picks against the Rams. In 2003 he threw an inexplicably stupid int to seal the game at Philly in OT. Favre's best playoff days ended in 1998.
Kaep has the luxury of playing with an immensely talented defense and the best offensive line in football. The Niners were 19-5 under Alex Smith and have been 17-6-1 under Kaep since taking over--so let's not act like he's revolutionized the Niners
He also threw a sure game-sealing pick-6 against the Packers at the end of the game that Micah Hyde flat-out dropped.
The point is moot anyway since most of the top QB prospects are dual threats anyways, and Houston quite obviously needs to draft a QB.
So basically when the guy doesn't have the right pieces it's lol running QBs. When he does it's 'well he has all this help'. Smith didn't get them to the SB and there's plenty of reason to question whether he ever would've.
Wilson is the first running QB to win a SB (Elway and Young were more passers at that point), and he had the best defense in the NFL and a Top-5 rusher, not to mention the Seahawks had a 29 point lead before he statpadded over half his yds and both his td's
If you wanna credit Kaep in 2012 than ok--I'm sure all Gore's heavy lifting (and all their 2nd half pts) and the defense pitching a shutout in the 2nd half in the NFCCCG weren't the primary reasons SF won that game.
It was that simple. In those games...facing minimal pressure...he YPA was 5.2 and he threw 1 TD and 5 picks. From the games I watched, there was no other team that I can think of that employed this strategy. They all came after him...which opened up his ability to run...which is what he'd rather do.
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