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    Why are you humping Blake's leg? Do you do anything besides bug people, slick? Sheesh~~~~
    You never ever ever ever ever get it right, wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    This is my thread asshole, what is Blake doing here? Yep, humping my leg just like you do.

    So when you going to actually do something all on your own?

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    This is how it works....

    The key to running fast is....speed endurance. That's what seperates the great sprinters, that's what Usian Bolt has in abundance, he started off as a 400/200 guy. While others are fading after 70 he is maintaining a higher % of his max velocity. So those college guys with 100m experience will be faster longer than just some cat who has 40 ability. His speed will be short lived not so with a legit sprinter. A guy who spent years running the sprints. Darrel Green a great example of this.
    being faster longer doesn't matter. it is very rare that an NFL sprint goes longer than 30-40 yards. what matters is breaking it loose within that first 20-40 yards

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    being faster longer doesn't matter. it is very rare that an NFL sprint goes longer than 30-40 yards. what matters is breaking it loose within that first 20-40 yards
    You missed the point.

    Guys with a legit sprint background will stay faster longer (talking seasons) than just some guy with a quick burst like a 40. Track guys started off as little kids running track, getting in that sort of condition. So because of that conditioning they will maintain/sustain the jets longer than a guy who didn't train for sprinting.

    Guys used to running 100-400 are on a whole other level than just some cat with a good first 40. Talking longevity here.

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    you referenced a play where bo jackson got run down, while ignoring the fact that he started left, reversed fields, hurdled a guy, then took off and raced down 90 yards...


    at the 1:42 mark


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    you referenced a play where bo jackson got run down, while ignoring the fact that he started left, reversed fields, hurdled a guy, then took off and raced down 90 yards...


    at the 1:42 mark

    That's the play, that's Rod Jones. You need to take into consideration Jones had been covering wide receivers all game long and Bo was a decathlete, trust me that little jaunt had no effect on him at all. He like Jones also ran the 400m.

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    reversing fields, the stop-start obviously wears you down, as does a hurdle like that, which is very different than hurdling in a race. then goes through an arm tackle/stumbles. please.

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    reversing fields, the stop-start obviously wears you down, as does a hurdle like that, which is very different than hurdling in a race. then goes through an arm tackle/stumbles. please.
    So how many times in his Auburn/NFL career did we see anyone run him down regardless of the situation?

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    So how many times in his Auburn/NFL career did we see anyone run him down regardless of the situation?
    i don't know.

    brb, about to dig through 600 hours of auburn film

    seeing as how he had plenty of runs that didn't go for touchdowns, its conceivable he was run down on a few occasions

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    i don't know.

    brb, about to dig through 600 hours of auburn film

    seeing as how he had plenty of runs that didn't go for touchdowns, its conceivable he was run down on a few occasions
    I saw him play many times at Auburn/Raiders, I never saw anyone catch him from behind, when he was in full gallop.

    The point was this...

    Rod Jones was a 400m sprinter at SMU, not a 100 guy. So he had that long range...speed endurance...ok?

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    I saw him play many times at Auburn/Raiders, I never saw anyone catch him from behind, when he was in full gallop.

    The point was this...

    Rod Jones was a 400m sprinter at SMU, not a 100 guy. So he had that long range...speed endurance...ok?
    that's pretty moot considering he covered significantly less distance on the play in question.

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    that's pretty moot considering he covered significantly less distance on the play in question.
    Where do we see what he was doing prior to the chase? He could have been down field covering a receiver and came back.

    What is your point?

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    Where do we see what he was doing prior to the chase? He could have been down field covering a receiver and came back.

    What is your point?
    The point is you're an old got pedo

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    The point is you're an old got pedo
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    Avante, other than Green and RGIII what other track guys did we have?

    No problem small fry.

    Larry Jones is still the fastest college 400m sprinter to ever play in the NFL, he was the real deal, a 44.8 guy. You also had Baylors Jerry Thomas a 46ish type. Art Monk was a hurdler while at Syracuse.
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    Avante, who were the fastest Oilers?

    You had a few speed receivers in...

    Tony Jones and Herkie Walls out of Texas
    Ken Burrough and Charlie Frazier out of Texas Southern
    What about Ernest Givins or Haywood Jeffires?

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    What about Ernest Givins or Haywood Jeffires?
    Lol tecmo bowl. I remember Jefferies being a big target, not really fast.

    But Avante sucks again by leaving off Billy white shoes Johnson.

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    What about Ernest Givins or Haywood Jeffires?
    Neither of them were known for collegiate track success.

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    Lol tecmo bowl. I remember Jefferies being a big target, not really fast.

    But Avante sucks again by leaving off Billy white shoes Johnson.
    He was no track athlete of any renown.

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    There are a lot of fast footballers who did nothing on the(HS?) track or very little. A few examples...

    Tony Dorsett
    Randy Moss....one indoor season
    John Taylor
    Eric erson
    Gale Sayers....he was a stud HS long jumper
    Calvin Johnson
    Lance Alworth
    Devin Hester
    Mike Wallace

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    the 40 sucks.

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    He was no track athlete of any renown.
    Greasy fat pedo with the almanac bads

    Billy made the MAC Conference All-Century team in track.

    Johnson was an All-American in 1974, graduating with school records in the 100 and 200-yard dashes.........winning the conference that year.....

    http://www.widenerpride.com/news/201...530135353.aspx
    He's currently a track coach.

    But hey look, you learned something today, track expert!

    Lol fat ol pedo

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    Greasy fat pedo with the almanac bads

    Billy made the MAC Conference All-Century team in track.


    Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You ever hear of...

    King
    Lebanon Valley
    Delaware Valley
    Misenicondia

    Those are schools in that DivIII school that Billy Johnson competed against. Why do you think a guy like me who can name every sprinter/school doesn't list Billy Johnson? Tell me shorty just what was his PR in the 100? Find that out and you'll see what he doesn't deserve mention. He won a conference Division I ..women...could win. There has never been any sprinter out of that conference that deserves mention.


    He's currently a track coach.

    But hey look, you learned something today, track expert!

    Lol fat ol pedo

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    Try it again...

    When I talk sprint speed it's 9.5/10.4 or faster, Now go find Johnson's PR and you'll see why he wasn't mentioned. He ran in a conference that good female sprinters could win, dead serious.

    Now think shorty, kid wins the Montana state le in 10.75. How would he do in Cali, Tex or Florida? He wouldn't even make the final. That's what we have here with Johnson.

    Trust me slick you will never teach me anything about track, and only a track idiot would think winning a Dvision III league meant something, it doesn't!!!!!!!!! That's where those that nobody wants end up.

    In terms you can understand........it's like winning the AFC South....wow what an accomplishment.

    Johnson was a 9.7 guy, that doesn't make the grade. big burly John Riggins ran that in high school. Those Oilers I did mention were all sub 9.5/10.4 guys.

    Dude, don't try to talk about things you know...0....about, ok?

    you..but he won the MAC in Division III
    me... it's about PR;s son.
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    We can't watch a Clemson game and not hear about the amazing speed of Sammy Watkins. Ok so just how fast is he? He's a 10.4 guy, a time Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin ran in high school. Which is where his PR comes from, he wasn't a track guy at Clemson. So he does have some speed, just not....WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...stuff like they try to make us believe. I'll back off the.....didn't run at Clemson, if he did he did...0.

    Keep in mind Trindon Holliday...10.00..!

    So what's Sammy going run the 40 in?

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    Try it again...

    Trust me slick you will never teach me anything about track, and only a track idiot would think winning a Dvision III league meant something, it doesn't!!!!!!!!! That's where those that nobody wants end up.

    Johnson was a 9.7 guy, that doesn't make the grade. big burly John Riggins ran that in high school. Those Oilers I did mention were all sub 9.5/10.4 guys.

    Dude, don't try to talk about things you know...0....about, ok?

    you..but he won the MAC in Division III
    me... it's about PR;s son.
    Oh, so if you're not into it, then it must not matter.

    The 1973 NCAA football guide had this to say before the season: "With 9.5 speed, white football shoes, and an end zone touchdown dance, he's earned the nicknames, Blazin' Billy White Shoes and Lovable Hot Dog"

    http://www.footballfoundation.org/Pr....aspx?id=70027

    But this is what happens when people try to have conversations with you. You don't back your facts up, you move the goalposts of the discussion and you get severely butthurt when someone shows you up like I have now for the second day in a row.

    So I'm just going to go back to calling you a re ed, talking, fat ol pedo.

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    Oh, so if you're not into it, then it must not matter.



    And nobody is talking about Riggins. We're talking about fastest Oilers ever.

    But this is what happens when people try to have conversations with you. You don't back your facts up, you move the goalposts of the discussion and you get severely butthurt when someone shows you up like I have now for the second day in a row.

    So I'm just going to go back to calling you a re ed, talking, fat ol pedo.
    I moved nothing, you simply don't understand track, so why play pretend...????

    Billy Johnson is not one of the fastest Oilers ever, a 9.7 pales in comparision to what fast guys run.

    it goes like this small fry.

    yards/meters

    9.0-10.00 Bob Hayes ran 9.1/10.06
    9.1-10.10 James Jett 10.16
    9.2-10.20 Hercshel Walker 10.23
    9.3-10.30 Chris Johnson 10.33
    9.4=10.40 Percy Harvin 10.43PR

    need I go on?

    Billy Johnson ran in a conference where nobody ran quality track. Any "decent" sprinter could win it.

    The fastest Oilers are

    Bill Groman 9.5
    Charlie Frazier 9.4 ran on USA teams
    Tony Jones a 10.2ish
    Herkie Walls 10.3ish
    Ken Burrough 9.4

    A 9.7 -10.70 ain't .

    women
    All-time women's best 100m


    1 10.49 ±0.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1q1 Indianapolis 16.07.1988 2 10.61 +1.2 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1 Indianapolis 17.07.1988 3 10.62 +1.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1q3 Seoul 24.09.1988 4 10.64 +1.2 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Shanghai 20.09.2009 5 10.65A +1.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1 Johannesburg 12.09.1998 6 10.67 -0.1 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Thessaloníki 13.09.2009 7 10.70 +1.6 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1s1 Indianapolis 17.07.1988 7 10.70 -0.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1 Sevilla 22.08.1999 7 10.70 +2.0 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Eugene 04.06.2011 7 10.70 +0.6 S ey Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1 Kingston


    Dude, stick to what ya know, this ain't it...ok?

    This is the fastest Oiler ever, he still holds the U of Texas 200m record. Texas isn't in rinky dinky DivIII


    1. 20.28 ______Tony Jones ___________1987 SWC Championships
    2. 20.29 ______Brendan Christian______2003 Big 12 Championships
    3. 20.40 ______Johnny “Lam” Jones ____1977 Texas Quadrangular...an Olympic 100m finalist.
    4. 20.52 ______Gary Roberson ________1984 LSU Invitational
    5. 20.3* ______Jason Leach __________1986 New Mexico Invitational
    6. 20.56 ______Earle Laing ___________1986 Texas Triangular
    7. 20.62 ______Herkie Walls__________1981 Texas Invitational ***************
    20.62 ______Jamaal Charles ________2006 Texas Twilight&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    9. 20.66 ______Lawrence Armstrong____2000 USTCA Championships (p)
    10. 20.69 ______Aaron Collins _________2003 Midwest Regional
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