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  1. #51
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    Shaq had to retire early because of having to carry Kobrick's ass for so long. Its no wonder Shaq started having back, knee, and ankle problems. When Kobrick got shut down by Austin Chrosure in the 2000 Finals.....Shaq had to put up numbers that may never be seen again in the NBA Finals by any position player.

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    But, that wasn't right, Bud. And Media sheepherding Howard as he did it was reprehensible. That belonged to Daddy.
    Why because Shaq said so? MJ was already Superman, and it wasn't self glossed, and he didn't cry when Shaq stole it from him.

    Damn Dale, you would've thought 6 gave you carte blanche here, but instead youve come back like a whiney 12 year old school girl that just started her first period.

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    Why because Shaq said so? MJ was already Superman, and it wasn't self glossed, and he didn't cry when Shaq stole it from him.

    Damn Dale, you would've thought 6 gave you carte blanche here, but instead youve come back like a whiney 12 year old school girl that just started her first period.
    Do I have black & white saddle shoes & a plaid skirt like at the Tilted Kilt?

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    In the three Finals wins from 2009-2002, Shaquille averaged 35 and 16. He was clearly unstoppable. Any two guard in the league could have won three rings on those Shaq-led teams. The two guard who happened to play for them at the time was K. Bryant.

    That's all. Nothing more. He was the starting two guard who was lucky enough to coattail three rings.

    Then he was egomaniacal enough to have Shaquille shipped out of town. And Laker management was dumb enough to actually do it.

    Then Bryant rewarded Laker management by forcing himself on a young woman in Colorado. And for some unconscionable reason, he mentioned Shaquille's name when talking with the Eagle police.

    This, Laker fans, is your hero.

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    In the three Finals wins from 2009-2002, Shaquille averaged 35 and 16. He was clearly unstoppable. Any two guard in the league could have won three rings on those Shaq-led teams. The two guard who happened to play for them at the time was K. Bryant.

    That's all. Nothing more. He was the starting two guard who was lucky enough to coattail three rings.

    Then he was egomaniacal enough to have Shaquille shipped out of town. And Laker management was dumb enough to actually do it.

    Then Bryant rewarded Laker management by forcing himself on a young woman in Colorado. And for some unconscionable reason, he mentioned Shaquille's name when talking with the Eagle police.

    This, Laker fans, is your hero.
    Right on target there, Base. If Tracy McGrady was the SG on the Lakers during Shaq's prime....they still win 3 in a row. I'm still waiting for Kobrick lovers to name a player to replace Shaq with where Kobrick still wins 3 les between 2000-2002.

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    In the three Finals wins from 2009-2002, Shaquille averaged 35 and 16. He was clearly unstoppable. Any two guard in the league could have won three rings on those Shaq-led teams. The two guard who happened to play for them at the time was K. Bryant.

    That's all. Nothing more. He was the starting two guard who was lucky enough to coattail three rings.

    Then he was egomaniacal enough to have Shaquille shipped out of town. And Laker management was dumb enough to actually do it.

    Then Bryant rewarded Laker management by forcing himself on a young woman in Colorado. And for some unconscionable reason, he mentioned Shaquille's name when talking with the Eagle police.

    This, Laker fans, is your hero.
    If it weren't for Kobe in Portland in '00, Media woulda stretched Daddy out on one of those apple trees up there.

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    Right on target there, Base. If Tracy McGrady was the SG on the Lakers during Shaq's prime....they still win 3 in a row. I'm still waiting for Kobrick lovers to name a player to replace Shaq with where Kobrick still wins 3 les between 2000-2002.
    This is nothing but, 6 talk.

    You'd a held on to what you won last June you'd be set, Lording it over the entire countryside, but, that ain't what happened. You ed up, Hemi, and by God, you are going to answer for it, day & night.

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    This is nothing but, 6 talk.

    You'd a held on to what you won last June you'd be set, Lording it over the entire countryside, but, that ain't what happened. You ed up, Hemi, and by God, you are going to answer for it, day & night.
    McGrady>Kobrick

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    Crawl, mother er. Crawl!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Perhaps Kobe holds the grudge because Shaq was a lazy clown and was still better than him no matter how hard he worked? Kobe is an ultra compe ive dude and to keep having to play second fiddle to a guy that just doesn't have to work hard to be dominant must be infuriating because no matter how hard he was working on his game.... the proof was in the pudding. Shaq was the better of the two.












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    Perhaps Kobe holds the grudge because Shaq was a lazy clown and was still better than him no matter how hard he worked? Kobe is an ultra compe ive dude and to keep having to play second fiddle to a guy that just doesn't have to work hard to be dominant must be infuriating because no matter how hard he was working on his game.... the proof was in the pudding. Shaq was the better of the two.











    I'm sure that bothered Kobe....a lot. That's why 17 June 2010 he paid that hump to ask him that question, because if he hadn't paid, that question would not have been asked. Media wanted no part of:::

    Kobe: 2

    Daddy: 1

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    1) As I said, the Kobe contract is purely a Jim Buss decision. Dr. Buss would have shipped Kobe's ass out for some first round picks and rebuild. Hence the joke if Jim ran the team then he'd lose both Kobe and Shaq and sign Payton to a max contract. Jim Buss is a ing moron, he is infamously known as a ing moron. I cant understand how this happened to the Lakers of all franchises, its a haters dream come true

    2) Most hate Shaq because 90% of Laker fans became Kobe die hards and Kobe clearly has a grudge against Shaq. The grudge stems from the fact IMHO that Kobe feels if not for Shaq he would get more credit for those 3 and he had to take a back seat. To be fair to Kobe, if the Lakers had built around him since day 1 we would get to see how great he really was. I personally think 5 rings was the max he could reach and he did.
    What? It was a Jim and Jeanie combo decision on doing what they thought their dad would do. I'd find it hard to believe that they never talked about resigning Kobe at any time in the years before Dr Buss died. (If you think they're lying or just mistaken)

    The Lakers had already begun thinking about extending Bryant – Jeanie Buss was all for it, Jim more deliberate – when the two sides began feeling each other out before Kobe’s return in December.When word came back that Bryant liked the idea of getting it done, the bargaining started.
    Bryant asked for more than he got, but settled for remaining the NBA’s highest-paid player.
    As originally reported, Jim and Jeanie agreed because it’s what their father would have done.
    They may have even done it on their father’s advice, since Jerry Buss did the same thing to thank Magic Johnson for his extraordinary contribution.
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/l...yant-kobe.html


    Like the article later points out, that doesn't make it not a horrible basketball decision--but you can at least see their thought process.

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    McGrady is the better regular season performer but he's a ing loser.. you think he could put up 48 and 16 in a closeout game?

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    McGrady is the better regular season performer but he's a ing loser.. you think he could put up 48 and 16 in a closeout game?
    Or, beat Gasol like a ing dog to get him to turn in the corner and, well,,,,,,,,,,find that idiot Howard in Florida and Perkins in a cast 17 June 2010.

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    What? It was a Jim and Jeanie combo decision on doing what they thought their dad would do. I'd find it hard to believe that they never talked about resigning Kobe at any time in the years before Dr Buss died. (If you think they're lying or just mistaken)



    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/l...yant-kobe.html


    Like the article later points out, that doesn't make it not a horrible basketball decision--but you can at least see their thought process.
    Im sure Dr. Buss said a few years before his death he would like Kobe to retire a Laker. I'm also sure Kobe used that as a bargaining chip being the "business man" that he is. However, poor Dr. Buss was busy dealing with cancer which is a horrible way to die, from what reports indicated in the last year of his life he was hardly 'there'.

    So basically Dr. Buss never really got to watch Kobe past 2012, I doubt he knew exactly how badly Kobe would deteriorate by 2014. I am confident he would not have made that decision.

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    Im sure Dr. Buss said a few years before his death he would like Kobe to retire a Laker. I'm also sure Kobe used that as a bargaining chip being the "business man" that he is. However, poor Dr. Buss was busy dealing with cancer which is a horrible way to die, from what reports indicated in the last year of his life he was hardly 'there'.

    So basically Dr. Buss never really got to watch Kobe past 2012, I doubt he knew exactly how badly Kobe would deteriorate by 2014. I am confident he would not have made that decision.
    Boiled down:::

    Allen backed up into that parallel parking space, Bosh hit him & Allen broke off a piece in your ass.

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    Im sure Dr. Buss said a few years before his death he would like Kobe to retire a Laker. I'm also sure Kobe used that as a bargaining chip being the "business man" that he is. However, poor Dr. Buss was busy dealing with cancer which is a horrible way to die, from what reports indicated in the last year of his life he was hardly 'there'.

    So basically Dr. Buss never really got to watch Kobe past 2012, I doubt he knew exactly how badly Kobe would deteriorate by 2014. I am confident he would not have made that decision.
    Tbh, he gave that money to a literally (at the time) dying Magic. It didn't have the basketball ramifications that this Kobe deal did though.

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    McGrady is the better regular season performer but he's a ing loser.. you think he could put up 48 and 16 in a closeout game?
    T-Mac could score 13pts in 35 secs though.

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