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Yeah, but I'm guessing the explanation is not going to be "the imaginary sky man did it"
I'm just teasing, haha.
Yeah, but I'm guessing the explanation is not going to be "the imaginary sky man did it"
Damn straight!Yeah, but I'm guessing the explanation is not going to be "the imaginary sky man did it"
You don't get it. I wasn't calling science a religion. I'm saying science isn't supposed to be ideological, it just is. You're arguing facts against beliefs, i.e., getting intentionally or unintentionally trolled. The creationists sure as aren't gonna be persuaded by now. So why don't you focus on the science and cool in the show instead of acting like a 14 yr old who was forced to get up early for church.
I don't even think they're sore yet but the blue balls you have for it are never gonna get emptied.
“Altho' I rarely waste time in reading on theological subjects, as mangled by our Pseudo-Christians, yet I can readily suppose Basanistos may be amusing. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. If it could be understood it would not answer their purpose. Their security is in their faculty of shedding darkness, like the scuttlefish, thro' the element in which they move, and making it impenetrable to the eye of a pursuing enemy, and there they will skulk."
- Thomas Jefferson
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Ad hominems on me don't really answer the question.More BS. I just now googled, "Is there any scientific proof that God exists?" and got over ten pages worth, pro and con.
So either you are lazy or incompetent. You tell me.
I'm not doing your work for you, especially since you prefer to, what did you call it instead of trolling, smack talk?
Very little difference in trolling IMHO because the result you are after is the same.
Do you deny this? Or are your baseless accusations just part of your natural character flaws?
Whenever you are willing to be, or at least act like, a mature respectable sensible intelligent adult in your discussions, you will find me a willing participant.
But if you choose to troll, smack talk, spam, whatever, it's all the same thing, then all you deserve is bashing IMHO.
What you definitely do not deserve is respect whatsoever.
You asserted both scientific articles and scientific arguments can be found. I merely asked for whatever you think was the best one out of all the pages and pages. If there are so many, any reasonable person should be able to easily cite one.
3rd time:
Give me what you found to be the most effective "scientific argument", or , give me a link to a "scientific study".
Boring.
You aren't even trying any more.
Although, since I am out to show how unreasoning and illogical people who doubt that evolution really happened, even lame trolling attempts help me in that regard, so I can't complain too much.
Thanks for all the lack of hard work.
Good luck trying to get xmas to actually defend his religious beliefs. He loves talking about how he likes to have intelligent discussions, but when it's actually time to state what he believes and, why he'll dodge your questions until you stop responding to him.
In before xmas calls you a "troll" and snitches on you to the mods...
You really believe this?
I don't think I ever called Woo a troll. Unlike you, who has clearly proven to be one.
But if he had been reading any of the threads that discuss this topic he would already know where I stand on this issue, I haven't hid it, ever.
And just because Woo wants me to "defend" my position, does not mean "I need to".
Woo, why is it so important to you that I, or anyone for that matter, defend their religious beliefs. Are you worried we might be right?
Or do you just want an excuse to criticize.
How can you defend something that revloves around "faith" anyway.
You tell me.
Basically my stand is this, I don't tell you what to believe in, and expect to be given the same consideration.
I only speak out when ignorance raises it's ugly head in the form of ridiculing others just because they have certain beliefs.
One of the major tenets in our cons ution is "religious freedom". I stand for that as much as I stand for the right to own firearms.
It is what it is.
Now you may try to distort and twist this however you want, as will CN, that is his schtick, and yes, CN, that is the badge of a troll which you wear quite well for all to see.
"Faith" is belief for no reason. Believers have been so indoctrinated by the "you just need faith" cliche that they have completely turned off their ability to reason.
And don't pretend like this issue is less important than the rest of the crap you argue about on here. If you don't want to actually go in-depth about your religious beliefs, nobody is forcing you to do otherwise. I just don't understand why you bother to chime in if you offer nothing of substance when talking about religion. Just stick to the board drama that you love so much.
So then, am I to assume you do not ascribe to "religious freedom" then?
Otherwise, why is it so important to you that I "defend" my beliefs or faith?
Is it really your business?
Non-sequitur.
Why does board drama interest you so much? We all have things we like talking about.Otherwise, why is it so important to you that I "defend" my beliefs or faith?
No, but then again, nobody forced you to comment numerous times in threads about religion. Don't chime in and offer an opinion if you don't want to be criticized. I didn't hunt you down and make you express your stance; you did that all by yourself.Is it really your business?
Don't try and pretend like I am violating your civil liberties. If you don't want to defend your beliefs, then don't. However, don't think that you can just spew crap about faith and not get criticized for it. Just go back to whining about Blake, because you have nothing interesting to say about religion at all.
I can respect that opinion.
Non-sequitur though?
Do you really think I am trying to confuse the issue or side track it?
I'm not. I have stated on numerous occasions my stance.
I just never have seen a reason to defend it because it is based on MY experience, knowledge, and insight.
That all equates to being "faith".
How do you explain something that is extremely "subjective" like that?
Believe me, it is not because I would not like to, it is rather because it isn't possible unless you experienced the same things I have.
I am not trying to evade. I just honestly don't know how to explain it, much more defend it.
At least I believe you have the intellectual know how to understand what I am saying, unlike the majority of the detractors on this site.
Thus I don't think I have ever challenged your intellectual abilities.
If I have, then I stand corrected.
Your question is a non-sequitur because no reasonable person would think that me criticizing their beliefs automatically means that I don't think they should be allowed to have them. I don't think a single atheist in this thread would argue that you shouldn't be allowed to believe what you want, so there is no reason whatsoever for you to even suspect otherwise.
Ok, I'll buy that explanation.
Still, it doesn't change any of the other stuff I said.
And honestly, I'm not trying to be an asswipe about this.
It is just way too subjective and somewhat private too.
For me to elaborate would be the same as bragging IMHO, and I am not a braggart.
Hope you can understand, and respect how I feel.
That's all I ask.
People that have irrational belief systems shouldn't throw stones
lol 80 meters
I think you missed his broader point...only science can fix all the that science has ed up.
Neal just took another shot at the creationists -- right in the crotch! No mercy, Neal! Go evolution!
evolution isn't true, dog to cat? never happened. by the way you sounds like a sad little . God exist, doesn't matter if you believe in him or not.
Evolution is perfectly sound logic... God is nothing more than an explanation for how stupid you are -- it is a subs ute for going out of your way to understand topics that require thinking like science.
You sound really insecure, having to take shots when the thread was dead. Evolution and science won't give any meaning to your pathetic life. By the was Neal is Agnostic. You don't know how life on earth even began. You believe we came from a fish who decided to walk on water for no reason at all. You're the last person to be calling anyone unintelligent.
Pretty cool discussion of xray binaries.
Gonna have to catch the rerun.
There is no meaning to life other than the meaning you assign to it. Also, I'm not an atheist. If there is evidence of a God, then I will listen, but there is virtually none... other than the occasional Cheeto in the shape of a crucified Jesus.
We don't know every detail of how life began on Earth, but we know a lot, and essentially every new piece of evidence we find supports evolution and contradicts the fraud that is creationism/intelligent design. Progress is the enemy of fraudsters like yourself. It's understandable why you would hate science.
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