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Well put.
Not my schtick, but feel free to bring this one up with DUNCANownsKOBE ...
You could easily add last season too, IMO...
EDIT: and obviously there's that Magic Johnson guy that was pretty good too...
LOL Laettner!
Fixed that for everybody tbh.
Uh, yes...parker's the best player on the team?
Parker has been bad (by his standards) this year, but last night he was great. He never called off the offense for an iso and was using the screens well. That flair to the baseline when George Hill misread it stood out to me because it showed that he was making reads and not just running through the motions.
What he needs is to watch film on how the ball gets distributed properly when he's not in the game.
You guys who complain about Parker dribbling too much...ever seen Chris Paul play?
Because Magic Johnson, Isaiah Thomas and Chauncey Billups never won anything.Then there's that whole other thing of "PG-led teams don't win championships"...
I'd like to see you mother ers jaws drop when Enrique get the Finals MVP award...
CP averages 11 assists per game. TP only 6 assists per game.
Diego...libre dans sa tete... with the ty come back per par
Have you read NOTHING of what other posters have tried to explain in this thread about the nature of the Spurs offense and how it is not set up to have any one individual get a ton of assists while others get few or none? Our motion offense is set up so that the ball movement is designed to go through multiple players receiving a pass, and then depending on where we are in the offensive set and what the defense is giving us, THEN that person will decide to pass to an open shooter or take the shot himself.
As so many others have pointed out, the Spurs' offense runs more like hockey, with the pass-before-the-pass-before-the-shot counting as an assist, too.
You really are misunderstanding your team's approach to the game.
So if the offense relies on ball, player movement and is dependent on what the defense gives us, why are we constantly criticising Patty for not being a pass-first or a 'true' point guard? I've always said that the Spurs' offense is one that does NOT require a traditional, pass-first point guard in order for it to be effective, and yet we constantly hear from folks on here that Mills isn't capable of 'running' it.
I'd like to know which point guard in the NBA has the most dribbles per half court offense possession.
Does anyone know how to look this up?
K thanks
Lol Spurs are doing so well, nothing to complain about so gripe about the style of winning. It will be nice winning a championship.
They don't give Finals MVPs to players averaging 15 points on bad efficiency.
All you experts in S.A. really know your basketball. Pop just doesn't know what he is talking about when he calls TP the key to the Spurs winning. He needs to check these threads for advice.
I am a huge fan of Mills so I am not going to participate in saying what he can or can't do. One thing you have to bear in mind is that, for the most part, when Mills is on the floor, Ginobili is with him and Ginobili is the de facto part guard in terms of distributing the ball. I think that the criticism of Patty is primarily based on last year, when virtually the ONLY thing he did was run up the court with the ball and shoot a three.
This year, I think he is much more aware of and attuned to how the offense is set up, and I have watched him participate in a free flowing passing set TONS more than he did last year. Last year he was pretty much incapable of running the offense…didn't seem to understand it…didn't seem to understand that their were people on the floor other than him that pretty much depended on him actually running a set play that Pop called in from the side. And those set plays almost always involve multiple people touching the ball before a shot gets taken by whoever has the best opening.
Over the last summer and this year, Patty has really improved with the ball distribution aspect of the game, and is really much better at this aspect than he was last year. However, it remains true that if Gino is not on the floor with Patty, the offense gets fairly confused pretty quickly. It is not that he won't ever be able to be a true pg, but he was hired as a shooting guard and that is his primary focus. Frankly, Ginobili was hired primarily as a shooting guard, too, but his knowledge of our offensive sets, bball I.Q., ball handling and passing skills are the best of anybody else on the team, so Pop has used him as the de facto ball distributor for several years now for the second unit. Patty is working hard to develop his other skills (his defense improved Massively from last year), but hasn't quite got the system all the way down yet.
I think eventually he will, though, and I believe that he will be a great spur player for a long time.
So TP going hero ball all on his own is what Pop wants? Why even have a system?
It sucks that he's such a damn ball hog. It's hard to watch.
I know, right? I mean, dayum. I think the next Spurs head coach needs to be a random pick from resident experts. That move would equal dynasty.
Ok. Spurs system, hockey assist, granted. But all these things explain why most of the time Tony takes the shot himself while Manu -just for example- decides to assist?
Sorry guys, beyond the systems, styles, however, a playmaker is a playmaker.
Tony isn't Nash, Kidd, Kevin Johnson or Stockton, he doesn't have their passing skills or court vision.
Obviously he's a great/amazing scorer, our best offensive player, and I'm so glad he's a Spur. But despite how excel he can be in other areas of the game, he isn't a true playmaker.
There's a reason why no one here is scared of the Clippers, and it's because Chris Paul tries too hard to be your ideal playmaker. Pretty much every pass he makes is intended to be an assist. The Spurs are much harder to stop because Parker doesn't have to spoonfeed the other guys nearly as much. His goal is to force help and rely on whomever he passed the ball to to make the next pass if he's not open to shoot. Paul's job is to find the open man. Parker's is to create the open man for someone else to find. He needs to score a whole bunch in order to force the help.
The only issue Parker has is sometimes he'll forget to spoonfeed his wings even if he has a decent shot himself. Getting Green and Leonard in rhythm early makes the offense much better.
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