Obama Care Is Officially A Success

[Leetonidas]

This is worse than when you try to pretend you know basketball. Just stop it son. stick to making threads about fingers in the ass or Tammy threads imo

[DMX7]

It pains them to see Obama succeed

[RGMCSE]

I'm very proud....that is until I'm forced to pay more in taxes...we shall see soon...looks like the lonely miserable repubs lost the battle of truth...

7 mill with a potential to swell past 9 million...amazing it is a success story....Hilary should walk right in and keep it going....

And yet millions more were forced to change or were ripped of their preferred insurance at the cost of selling ACA. This is a fraud and your're too stupid/ignorant to understand or see what is happening behind the curtains.

[Rogue]

and it also hurts the country if Obama succeeds doing what he wants.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's like autotrader counting everyone that looks at a car ad as a "sold car"

If you mean "agree contractually to buy the car" when you say "looks at a car ad' then I agree with you.

[NFO]

I'm very proud....that is until I'm forced to pay more in taxes...we shall see soon...looks like the lonely miserable repubs lost the battle of truth...

7 mill with a potential to swell past 9 million...amazing it is a success story....Hilary should walk right in and keep it going....

How is that "If you like your plan you can keep it. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" Working out?


How many people got kicked out of their insurance plans and were forced to sign up for Obama care?

lol at relaying anything this administration says. Only a fool, would beleive the numbers they came out with. Shocker that you believe everything the guy says.

[UZER]

thinking dems vs repubs is real. Its all a sham. Gov agendas are put in action, the "opposition" acts enraged, but its plan still moves forward and the Gov slowly takes more control.

Rinse repeat regardless of who's in office, house, senate.

[Bill_Brasky]

Obamacare ing sucks and was all over by insurance companies. Single payer or bust, gots.

[tlongII]

It's gotten more corrupt over the last 30 years while Reagan, Clinton, Bush etc. deregulated and made it smaller.

You think the government is smaller now than it was 30 years ago?

[tlongII]

You think the government is smaller now than it was 30 years ago?

I suggest you view this link that compares the 1983 federal budget to the 2013 federal budget.

[tlongII]

ACA doesn't even address the most important issue as to why health care is so expensive. Malpractice insurance.

[Koolaid_Man]

That's just registered, not purchased. , I'm registered. If you wanted to look around in there you had to register to see anything.

So Baby Butt Smooth, which plan did YOU buy?

EPIC FAIL Cowboy...it's actually signed up.....not registered...once again Tea- s coming up with their own inbreed "facts".....

suck on it CC....@registered.....you're mad get over it....

[TSA]

Again, registered does not mean paid. I'll repost for reading pleasure.

http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspo...ny-of.html?m=1


Health insurance reform was long overdue. But did it need to be done the way the architects of the Affordable Care Act did it?

Obamacare was enacted, and the private health insurance market fundamentally changed, so that we could cover millions of people who previously couldn't get coverage.

Are enough people getting coverage who didn't have it before to justify the sacrifices the people who were already covered––in the individual, small group, and large employer market––are making or will make?

I will suggest the country will never really be able to judge how good or how bad Obamacare is until that question is answered.

Forget the Obama administration's spin over hitting 6 million. Forget all of the opposition spin over Obamacare's failings.

The country's judgment should and will come down to a simple answer to this simple question.

Of course, the more than 6 million enrollment the administration recently announced overstates Obamacare's success because this includes enrollments that were never completed since the person never paid the premium. There are lots of reasons why a consumer might not complete the enrollment. The person may have hit the enroll button a number of times and ended up paying only once. It may have been one of the infamous "834" transactions that never made sense and the consumer ended up having to enroll again later. Or, the person might have had second thoughts about the cost/benefit of Obamacare and decided not to move forward.

Then there were a measurable number of people who paid their first month's premium but never paid the second month's premium. I am told that 2% to 5% of January's enrollments never paid in February, for example.

Whatever the reason, the real enrollment number will likely be about 20% lower than what the administration finally reports. That means the real enrollment will be closer to 5 million than 6 million.

But 6 million sounds better than 5 million.

There are two important pieces of information we need to have before the country can really answer this fundamental question about the way Obamacare accomplished health insurance reform:
How many people have actually paid and completed their enrollment?
To what extent have we reduced the ranks of the uninsured––how many of these people who enrolled were previously insured and how many of them were previously uninsured?
Reporters often ask these questions and the Obama administration says they don't know. And, that's the end of it.

But these questions are easily answered.

Every insurance company knows exactly how many people it has enrolled and who paid their premium at the end of every billing period. How else would they be able to process the claims for these people?

How many people were enrolled and paid for?

All HHS Secretary Sebelius has to do is write each of the 400 insurance companies selling in the exchanges and ask them for the total number of people enrolled and paid for on the insurance exchanges as of a certain date. She could email each of them on April 1 and ask for their hard enrollment numbers, for example, as of the end of the month of March. Either the feds or the state exchanges communicate with the carriers daily. The carriers would be able to respond in a matter of hours with the data.

Then, get a pad of paper, a pencil, and a dime store calculator and add up the numbers. By April 5th, we would know the precise answer.

Then there is the second question: Just how much have we reduced the ranks of the uninsured since Obamacare went into effect? It's just as easy to answer this question.

We only need ask the carriers for two numbers:
The number of people they insured (and were paid for) in both the individual and small group markets as of December 31, 2013––the day before Obamacare started covering people.
The number of people that were insured (and paid for) in both the individual and small group markets on a specific date––March 31, 2014, for example.
I will suggest that asking for both the small group and individual market numbers is important as people have a tendency to move between the markets, particularly as employers drop coverage and their people go, or don't go, into the exchanges.

Then subtract one total from the other. We would have an excellent idea of just how many more people, net of any gains and losses, secured private insurance since Obamacare's launch.

Then people could make their judgments about how well Obamacare accomplished health insurance reform free from all of the spin.

My conversations with carriers suggest that about half of the enrollments come from the ranks of the previously insured. But that is just anecdotal information. I don't have a hard number. And, why should anyone believe me particularly when the real answer so easy to get?

Yes, there might be some movement between the large employer market and these other markets and there are a very few carriers not participating in the exchanges. But, I will suggest, to the 90th percentile, we'd have our answer. It would sure be a lot more accurate answer than someone doing a poll involving a few hundred or even a few thousand people.

Why should the administration make the effort to get this information? They know the answer wouldn't spin as well as saying they have enrolled 6 million people and arguing that millions of previously uninsured people have coverage.

But the fundamental question is: Did we sign-up enough people to really reduce the ranks of the uninsured and therefore make this new health law worth it?

The information the country needs to answer that question, and to really judge Obamacare for themselves, is remarkably easy to produce.

And, the press needs to do its job making sure the people get it.

[Th'Pusher]

Again, registered does not mean paid. I'll repost for reading pleasure.

They selected a plan and signed up for coverage for which they will be getting a bill. Will some people not pay that bill, sure, but that is totally different than what CC was intimating, which was basically that if you went to the website, you were counted among the 7.1M. He was wrong...

Furthermore, do you think the CBO did not account for a certain % of people signing up and not paying their premiums in their analysis? Do you think they assumed a 100% collection rate?

Just calm down and let's see what happens. You don't have to let you hatred for Obama distort and cloud all your views and decisions. Try being a thoughtful person.