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    Why the outrage now over some words and no outrage over his extremely racist actions years ago?
    this, plus concern about Sterling's violated privacy, was Kareem Abdul Jabbar's take.

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    this, plus concern about Sterling's violated privacy, was Kareem Abdul Jabbar's take.
    The violation of privacy has some legs.
    The other is perfectly understandable.
    People can explain away a witness in court looking for money or revenge.

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    Answer me this, were his actions more egregious ten years ago or today? I'll answer for you, they aren't even in the same ballpark.
    I think that's true. But I also think that the failure to properly discipline him years ago for more egregious conduct came on the watch of a different commissioner who, for whatever reasons, chose not to take action -- wrongly so, I think. I'm not sure that Silver's decision is questionable just because Stern chose not to do anything previously.

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    Wow...

    All you "Holier than thou" types deserve to burn in .

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    Its a matter of belief.

    In court you have witness testimony.

    In this case you have Sterling saying that's him. So you would believe your wife said something as told to you second hand rather than hearing your wife say this on tape and then telling you she said it? What is so difficult to understand here?

    The players in the NBA hear their leaders voice. I guarantee some already had inklings of this BEFORE. There is no explaining away your own voice saying words.
    , why even tape it. The girlfriend just should have gone to reporters and stated Sterling said this. Or just tell people Sterling said this in court.
    Right...
    You didn't answer my question. And judging from your response I'm not even sure you know what I am referring to. I digress though. I'm just baffled the media is running with his discriminatory remarks now and didn't blow him up with his blatant racist actions years ago.

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    Wow...

    All you "Holier than thou" types deserve to burn in .
    describes you, TSA, xray and CC better than anyone else in the thread, tbh. you guys are way up on your high horses about this.

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    Racism has nothing to do with this particular incident. What he said is not racist in nature. What he said is no different than what two people in a relationship say to each other all the time. Jealousy plays a big part. And who can blame him, like I said earlier, he was paying this woman lots of bucks to service him and he didn't want to be made a fool of. Who would after you spend the kind of money he spent. She must have some special talents is all I can say.

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    describes you, TSA, xray and CC better than anyone else in the thread, tbh. you guys are way up on your high horses about this.
    Does that apple taste like an orange to you?

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    I think that's true. But I also think that the failure to properly discipline him years ago for more egregious conduct came on the watch of a different commissioner who, for whatever reasons, chose not to take action -- wrongly so, I think. I'm not sure that Silver's decision is questionable just because Stern chose not to do anything previously.
    Some of these cases took place while Silver was Stern's right hand man, no?
    I wonder what he said about the bosses decision back then?

    Its a matter of what you can clearly pin on someone. The press will probably ask if they can delve into any NBA discussions on Sterlings past.

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    I'm just baffled the media is running with his discriminatory remarks now and didn't blow him up with his blatant racist actions years ago.
    for some reason our liberal media masters wanted to keep us in the dark, or Commissioner Stern told them to lay off, and like obedient lapdogs, they did.

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    I think that's true. But I also think that the failure to properly discipline him years ago for more egregious conduct came on the watch of a different commissioner who, for whatever reasons, chose not to take action -- wrongly so, I think. I'm not sure that Silver's decision is questionable just because Stern chose not to do anything previously.
    Silver had to do something so I don't question his decision, just not sure he went about the right way. I also hope that is punished for what to me looks like a setup. Listening to the recordings you can just tell she was egging him on, it made me sick just listening to her with all the "honnney, honnney" talk. her and Sterling.

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    Racism has nothing to do with this particular incident. What he said is not racist in nature. What he said is no different than what two people in a relationship say to each other all the time. Jealousy plays a big part. And who can blame him, like I said earlier, he was paying this woman lots of bucks to service him and he didn't want to be made a fool of. Who would after you spend the kind of money he spent. She must have some special talents is all I can say.
    This argument doesn't work with those who are indoctrinated into the political correctness train of thought.

    Anything that can be construed as talking bad about a person of color, is a racist remark. Just ask any lib .

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    You didn't answer my question. And judging from your response I'm not even sure you know what I am referring to. I digress though. I'm just baffled the media is running with his discriminatory remarks now and didn't blow him up with his blatant racist actions years ago.
    AGAIN.

    Its easier to explain away witness testimony as opposed to a tape.
    Were there tapes of Sterling saying he did not want dirty blacks and Mexicans living in his housing?

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    describes you, TSA, xray and CC better than anyone else in the thread, tbh. you guys are way up on your high horses about this.
    How did I get lumped into the holier than thou group? Wtf

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    Some of these cases took place while Silver was Stern's right hand man, no?
    I wonder what he said about the bosses decision back then?

    Its a matter of what you can clearly pin on someone. The press will probably ask if they can delve into any NBA discussions on Sterlings past.
    Regardless of what Silver thought, he had no power to impose any discipline (or any power to refuse to impose discipline) back then.

    Whatever the league might actually say, I'd be very hard-pressed to believe that Sterling's past, egregious racism and other types of idiocy went wholly unconsidered in this cir stance. Clearly, the tape recordings demonstrating his unrepentant and continuing racism gave a basis to take action -- perhaps giving Silver a basis to mete out sanctions that were long overdue.

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    This argument doesn't work with those who are indoctrinated into the political correctness train of thought.

    Anything that can be construed as talking bad about a person of color, is a racist remark. Just ask any lib .
    WC denies that Sterling said anything racist, suggests he was martyred by liberal elitism, and that anyone who disagrees is an accomplice and an idiot.

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    WC

    I posted the link to the tape. Listen to it.

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    Regardless of what Silver thought, he had no power to impose any discipline (or any power to refuse to impose discipline) back then.

    Whatever the league might actually say, I'd be very hard-pressed to believe that Sterling's past, egregious racism and other types of idiocy went wholly unconsidered in this cir stance. Clearly, the tape recordings demonstrating his unrepentant and continuing racism gave a basis to take action -- perhaps giving Silver a basis to mete out sanctions that were long overdue.
    You are probably correct.
    But he might have had an opinion and it might be voiced in the minutes of a meeting.
    In fact I would think if it was discussed by the NBA he did have an opinion.

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    WC denies that Sterling said anything racist, suggests he was martyred by liberal elitism, and that anyone who disagrees is an accomplice and an idiot.
    Yes, I am saying that what Sterling said is not racist. It has racial overtones, but it was the girlfriend that kept interjecting race.

    Did you listen to the two tapes of 15 minutes worth of time?

    I did. I'll bet you only listened to snippets of it.

    To call what he said racist is ignorant.

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    I posted the link to the tape. Listen to it.
    I already listened to both tapes.

    Care to put the parts in text that you claim to be racist so I can school you as to why it isn't?

    Since when is ignorance and stupidity racist?

    A racist is one who believe one race is superior to another. A dislike or preconception based on generalities is not racist. We all have bias.

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    Wow...

    All you "Holier than thou" types deserve to burn in .
    @teysha blue "this message brought to you by the vitamin I"

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    describes you, TSA, xray and CC better than anyone else in the thread, tbh. you guys are way up on your high horses about this.
    Once again, how am I acting holier than thou in this thread?

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    high dudgeon over liberal hypocrisy

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    , some couples have said a lot worst in the heat of an argument on infidelity. Which he more than likely felt like a jilted lover, like I said earlier he was paying big money and expected his monies worth. I damn sure would if I was spending millions, which he was.

    Oh, Jesse showed up at the game last night and walked out on the court. Now how about that for politics. Stupid little twerp, show me the money.

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    some liberal spambot at State has wandered off script:

    For Sterling to finally get his comeuppance, to feel the wrath of public opprobrium, and to lose his prime asset seems just. For the NBA, which was engaged in a decades-long battle with its longest-tenured, and worst, owner, this was a perfect opportunity to act swiftly and harshly.

    Yet one has this niggling feeling that Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has a point when he says, “If we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape, or form, that's not the United States of America.”

    http://www.slate.com/articles/sports...n_t_force.html

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