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I'd be hard pressed to believe that any player not named LeBron would be able to rign with David Lee as the second best player, and even then its a big stretch
It depends on what you mean by "trouble". I think they can win more games than they did this year, they can go further in the playoffs... but they cannot win a ring if Steph is their best player.
I'd be hard pressed to believe that any player not named LeBron would be able to rign with David Lee as the second best player, and even then its a big stretch
Don't really see the saltiness. Classy exit if anything ,tbh.
You're so fixated on best and worst. Steph can absolutely be the best offensive player on a championship team. Every player has their own strengths and weaknesses. Who was the best OVERALL player on the 2011 Mavs?
Hard pressed and "big stretch" are basically the same things. Either way, let's not make the stupid ass comparison between Lebron and Steph and pretend David is holding Steph back. Bring something substantial, not just misdirection and red herrings.
No he cannot. If Steph is the best player on the team, then everyone else is at a lower level. That means Steph's shooting is making the major difference on the team. It's certainly not his passing or protecting of the ball. If that's the case it's just not going to happen for the team.
a) you understood exactly what I said, no need to be coy about it. since lebron is the best player in the league, its clear that he would stand the best chance to ring on a team with Lee as the #2, but even then it wouldn't be likely
b) I never compared LeBron to Steph Curry
c) You don't think a players' supporting cast (or lack thereof) can ever hold him back from having team success?
d) My claim was just as substantive as your claim that "they won't win with Curry as their best player"
internet GM I guess. So who was the best player on that Mavs team?
Not unless he drastically cuts back on the turnovers, grows as a playmaker and adds some defense to that offense.... even then, his ankles and being a point guard are working against him, tbh....
Well yeah clearly he needs to improve. But he has the skills to be the best offensive player on a le team.
Blair.
So anyone who disagrees with your run-of-the-mill take is an internet GM. Got it.
No he doesn't. He's not better than Chris Paul and CP3 won't ever be the best offensive player on a le team.
his ankle woes have been blown out of proportion, only missing significant time in one year... he played 80, 74 games his first 2 years, 26 in his injury-marred season (was the lockout year), and has played in 78 and 78 games in the 2 years since. Curry's turnovers at this point are his biggest issue, but that generally comes with players increasing their playmaking role.
I liken his evolution as a player to something similar to Steve Nash, who started out as a flashy player/scorer on Dallas who took years to develop into a playmaker/passer. I'm not suggesting Curry will become the playmaker Nash was (he's one of the greatest of all time, of course), but I'm willing to cut him slack since his game is evolving. In college he was basically their only scoring threat at Davidson, so he didn't really have true point guard skills. He's only average defensively, but its not from a lack of effort
1. You invoke Lebron because you cannot remotely provide an argument against the one I made (which didn't include Lebron). That's called a ><))))))>
2. You basically defended Curry by the blind assertion that Lebron couldn't ring with David Lee as his second best player, something you can't possibly know.
3. You didn't really have a claim. You just threw out a red herring per par for Philo
You mean 0 and forever Steve Nash?
You like invoking HOF players and then stepping back with a disclaimer. Stop invoking them and comparing Steph to these guys and you won't have to make those disclaimers.
Blair wasn't on the 2011 Mavs. And you're an internet GM because I'd wager at least 2/3 of the league GMs would try to build a le team around Curry. And since they have jobs and you don't, you're designated an internet GM. Congrats.
Shastafarian made a comment saying the Warriors would be in trouble no matter what, if David Lee was their second best player. This is a notion I agree with. You then turned it into "well they won't win with Curry as their best player anyway." By the parameters you just described, that was a red herring in itself. I was adding on to Shastafarian's argument, but looking at the best case scenario of a team with David Lee as the #2 (which is clearly a team with LeBron as the 1).
I don't read all of your posts so I have no idea what you're talking about. You can bet though the best player wasn't the point guard.
I was pointing to growing pains we see in player development, which is something Nash went through as well. This was a response to CN, and yet you had to come here and philo it up without actually having a claim in the matter
But the term "trouble" is a nebulous term, meaningless if you cannot define it. The crystal ball arguments you two make are pointless, as if you expect someone to provide evidence against your predictions of what "would" be if some hypothetical existed. That's lazy ass debating that doesn't require knowing anything.
I interpreted "trouble" as having low odds of being serious championship contenders. Your argument that Curry can never be the #1 offensive player on a championship caliber team is equally hypothetical and by your own standards is an equally pointless argument
Ok, so why not say Patty Mills? You didn't just pull Nash out randomly. You've established that you're a Curry homer, so your takes on it (as non-specific as they are) are tainted with that love for him, thus the invocation of Nash and Lebron, instead of two other players who aren't future HOFers.
Sounds about right.
I thought you were into analyzing basketball. Sweet dodging answer.You can bet though the best player wasn't the point guard.
More non-specific "can't pin me down" drivel. Low odds? Less than what?
Crystal ball arguments like Steph Curry can never be the best player on a le team?
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