Oklahoma City just set an NBA record..

[hyhy]

Splitter didnt fumble the ball.. Adams raised his leg to knee the ball away?

[Barfunk]

This thread is full of win. Props to all of it's contributors.

[DMC]

Never complain about the FT disparity when your coach runs an intentional fouling scheme.

[BermudaSooner]

Never complain about the FT disparity when your coach runs an intentional fouling scheme.

This

[poeticism707]

I love the ref's calling 6 fouls on OKC with 4 min left in the game to pad the foul total so it wont
look as bad.........

Yep.

Stern and Silver are soooo "clever."

Man, these refs sure are in the Spur's pockets,

trying to help them make a comeback.

And yes, the casual fan sheep are

THAT brainwashed.

[4down]

It drives me crazy when Pop pulls the plug early. Not saying we would have won, but make them keep their key players in longer if you can. I'm not saying keep the Spurs key guys in the game, but don't have Cory dribble out the shot clock and stat pad. Don't have Baynes and Ayres shoot 15-18 footers. Let Belinelli, Mills, Green and even Bonner rain threes. I'd even have Daye dressed instead of Ayres. If they miss, and we lose by 20 so what....but if they hit a few and it keeps Ibaka, Westbrook and Durant out on the floor a little longer there's a potential benefit for the next game.

This. Not even pretending to try to win it.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Refs are far from the reason the Spurs lost, btw, this isn't a ref complaint thread, just a funny fact..

Spurs lost because they didn't match OKC's energy, were outrebounded badly and got absolutely nothing from Parker..

I saw Parker and Ginobili, et. al. head into the paint. They end up bodied and pushed to the floor, out of bounds, into a turnover, etc. On the other end, it is a foul though. It takes a lot of intestinal for ude to keep being aggressive when you are only penalized for it, while the Thunder are rewarded for it. The Spurs didn't have a great game, but more than 50% percent of the reason they didn't have a great game is that they were not allowed to have a great game. They were hanging tough until that record-breaking free -throw quarter by OKC.

[Skull-1]

Splitter didnt fumble the ball.. Adams raised his leg to knee the ball away?

Correct.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yep.

Stern and Silver are soooo "clever."

Man, these refs sure are in the Spur's pockets,

trying to help them make a comeback.

And yes, the casual fan sheep are

THAT brainwashed.

Yes. If it quacks like a duck it is a ing duck. That third quarter was some crooked . Put us in the bonus early and then every trip down the court is two points from the charity stripe. Reminded me of a pinball machine, or something, construction work driving fines, OKC playing with a bonus quarter - everything times two! You can't win against that no matter how "aggressive" you are. Pop knows this, and the people that don't sit around second guessing him: "Why Pop no try win game? Pop no try hard! Spurs need more aggressive!"

[littlecoyotecoin]

Whatever it takes. Just like Memphis and LA before us. They not even trying to hide it.

Why bother to hide it when even Spurs fans are conned into believing it didn't happen?

[littlecoyotecoin]

Frankly speaking OKC outplayed us even with the refs in their pocket for the 2nd half so it doesn't matter.

Taking away Mills' 3 was robbery though. That was a huge momentum play.

No. You can't just explain it away like that. You can't have teams play by different rules, especially in the second half, and then say the one getting preferential treatment outperformed the other. In science, that conclusion from that experiment would get -canned IMMEDIATELY.

[littlecoyotecoin]

This


SPur fan whining about the refs

It is being conditioned into not getting clobbered into a turnover and a no call. The wide open three is the only thing the officials have difficulty manipulating. But, we even see them do this...wait to see if it goes in...late whistle...off the ball foul call waive off basket...or what we get with Mills last night...that if Mills would have been a Thunder would have surely been a four-point play.

[spurtech09]

Thunderrefs to the rescue as usual.

you stole the words of my mouth......thunderefs to the rescue

[spurtech09]

just plain and simple guys...OKC are not as good as people think.....OKC need the refs to help them win games

[jARS mEsH sEt]

No. You can't just explain it away like that. You can't have teams play by different rules, especially in the second half, and then say the one getting preferential treatment outperformed the other. In science, that conclusion from that experiment would get -canned IMMEDIATELY.

Actually in hindsight you're right, it absolutely does matter, at least for this game. I'm hoping it doesn't matter for the outcome of the series, though. We'll see where this takes us. Maybe a little adversity helps us be even sharper on offense.

[Kidd K]

It's disgusting how badly the league tries to artificially prop up the Thunder with horrendously lopsided officiating. They did the exact same in 2012 too.

22-0 FTA disparity in a quarter is a in joke. 31-7 for a game is pathetic, but not as pathetic as giving the Spurs 9 useless FTAs in the final minutes to pretend like the Thunder only got twice as many FTAs as the Spurs in the game as opposed to the reality which was 4 1/2 times as many FTAs before the game was clearly over.

Clearly nothing has changed with Stern retiring. Shame on me for thinking this bull wouldn't happen again.

[littlecoyotecoin]

They dont want to admit that they watched a rigged product, I can acknowledge that, I know the NBA is rigged but i watch to see if we can overcome it. Its bad for business if Durant goes down 3-0 and kills their ratings. Sure we didnt play great but the refs were the main contributor to our offensive inefficiency.

I don't KNOW it, but I strongly suspect it. And, the minute I am convinced, I will just stop watching. At this point, I am just closing out Tim's career and 40 years of habit and tradition. A WWE fan, I am not.

[littlecoyotecoin]

How can people honestly see the 26-0 second half free throw discrepancy, and say 'refs dont matter'?? It blows the mind...

It does. And, even worse, this opinion comes from a seasoned fan. When the NBA can con even a seasoned fan as Nono, they've got a good thing going.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

It does. And, even worse, this opinion comes from a seasoned fan. When the NBA can con even a seasoned fan as Nono, they've got a good thing going.

Nono hasn't been conned by anything. He'll fully admit that the reffing is biased in favor of OKC. He just thinks it's useless to complain about it because our complaining won't change the fact that OKC will continue to be propped up by the refs.

[littlecoyotecoin]

weird to see El Nono defending the corrupt officiating. I guess like people in the media, nobody wants to upset the gravy train imo.

Yes. Someone asked me about the talking heads and I mentioned same...you don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs...

[littlecoyotecoin]

I didn't say they're not coddled... I said if the Spurs play better, the refs don't matter... at least not in this game.

A team could never play so good that a series of orchestrated "unfortunate" bad or missed calls could not undo their work.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Or maybe the momentum of the game is affected by not getting those key calls, pressure shifts if we make that 3, but you can ignore it all you want, basketball is a game of momentum and that call ended the game, they hit a 3 right after and their methhead crowd ejaculated and the momentum killed us

Not just intangible momentum, but when a player is allowed to goal-tend you change your shot, when you know you are going to get fouled with no call, it can change your shot, when you are held on rebounds with no call but are not allowed to hold when rebounding without being called...all of these things can add up to rebounding differentials and lowered shooting percentages...and they are related to officiating...so to say: "If they just shoot better and rebound better the refs won't matter..."

The refs can influence shooting percentages and rebounding just like every other aspect of the game.

[littlecoyotecoin]

It was also historical for WB and KD when they only had very few freebies in the first 2 games. Should any OKC fan tell you those games were rigged? I mean, they've been getting to the line at X rate for the whole season. The bottom line is we can write 300 pages out of hypotheticals on freebies, when there's much more clear factors of why the Spurs lost this particular game.

This might not be a hollow argument if The Spurs are notorious for being a low-fouling team. This is a known quan y. RW and KD wanting foul calls against us like we are the Washington Generals is a totally different animal.

[littlecoyotecoin]

That's the sinister beauty of what is known as "the big lie". You shove it right in peoples faces, and it's so obvious, but people can't bring themselves to believe the obvious. Folks think, erroneously, that if something shady was going on, certainly the perpetrators wouldn't make it so obvious, right? Therein lies the genius of it all. The perpetrators can act with impunity, because they have the imprimatur of innocence bestowed upon them whilst doing the dirty deed right out in the open. Genius! Kafka would be proud.

[littlecoyotecoin]

And look at the first half, at one point there were 12 fouls on okc, and 2 on the spurs. Most of the first half was played with more fouls on Perkins than the entire Spurs team.

You might want to mention Perkins is OFTEN in foul trouble and that that small differential in the first half is a drop in the bucket compared to the second.