Oklahoma City just set an NBA record..

[littlecoyotecoin]

Nono hasn't been conned by anything. He'll fully admit that the reffing is biased in favor of OKC. He just thinks it's useless to complain about it because our complaining won't change the fact that OKC will continue to be propped up by the refs.

Well it might not change what happens to The Spurs, but it might change what I do with all of those hours of free time. I don't spend any time researching Greek shipping companies, either.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Never complain about the FT disparity when your coach runs an intentional fouling scheme.

Lol. How many intentional fouls in in this game? 2?

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Lol. How many intentional fouls in in this game? 2?

Yeah I checked the play-by-play. It was 2. Steven Adams shot 6 free throws in the 3rd quarter. 4 of them were the result of intentional fouling. Two of them were legitimate.

The thing about complaining about the refs is that when someone points out a record breaking 22 FTA to 0 FTA, they're not implying that all 22 of those FTA were "bull " or that the Spurs deserved 22 FTA to exactly even the free throws out. The free throw disparity is merely a red flag and nothing more. You (I'm talking about DMC here) actually have to watch the game to assess biased reffing. I think most people agree that OKC's overall net "bull " benefit was something like +8 or so FTA that quarter, a combination of unwarranted free throws shot by OKC and lack of calls on our side.

[ElNono]

Nono hasn't been conned by anything. He'll fully admit that the reffing is biased in favor of OKC. He just thinks it's useless to complain about it because our complaining won't change the fact that OKC will continue to be propped up by the refs.

Pretty much, plus in this particular game, the Spurs had bigger fish to fry than refs. It's one of those situations that if you keep pounding it, you'll miss the forest from the tree.

[Skull-1]

Yes. If it quacks like a duck it is a ing duck. That third quarter was some crooked . Put us in the bonus early and then every trip down the court is two points from the charity stripe. Reminded me of a pinball machine, or something, construction work driving fines, OKC playing with a bonus quarter - everything times two! You can't win against that no matter how "aggressive" you are. Pop knows this, and the people that don't sit around second guessing him: "Why Pop no try win game? Pop no try hard! Spurs need more aggressive!"

LOL pinball machine! z yes.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Yep.

Stern and Silver are soooo "clever."

Man, these refs sure are in the Spur's pockets,

trying to help them make a comeback.

And yes, the casual fan sheep are

THAT brainwashed.

The funny thing is when Marco went to the free throw line on one of these "make up" calls in the end, they panned over to the OKC bench and you could see Serge Ibaka and company scoffing at Marco getting that call. It was disgusting. They don't even know how good they have it.

[BillMc]

All conspiracy theories aside, I wonder how they do draw so many fouls (in general, not necessarily last night)? I suspect it's because they have so many uber athletes (Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka are all among the most athletic for their positions in the league), and defenders who can't keep up physically are forced to grab and reach. It seems, also, that the refs are impressed with this athleticism, and therefore tend to grant a little more leeway to them on defense themselves. (Ibaka, for example, often fouls but because he's expected to make clean blocks, many of these fouls simply aren't called.)

[Skull-1]

It's disgusting how badly the league tries to artificially prop up the Thunder with horrendously lopsided officiating. They did the exact same in 2012 too.

22-0 FTA disparity in a quarter is a in joke. 31-7 for a game is pathetic, but not as pathetic as giving the Spurs 9 useless FTAs in the final minutes to pretend like the Thunder only got twice as many FTAs as the Spurs in the game as opposed to the reality which was 4 1/2 times as many FTAs before the game was clearly over.

Clearly nothing has changed with Stern retiring. Shame on me for thinking this bull wouldn't happen again.

Well said. It is a pathetic joke.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Pretty much, plus in this particular game, the Spurs had bigger fish to fry than refs. It's one of those situations that if you keep pounding it, you'll miss the forest from the tree.

And, I say you can't separate the forest from the trees. It's all related. If it's not a fair game that can affect every other aspect of it.

[Skull-1]

All conspiracy theories aside, I wonder how they do draw so many fouls (in general, not necessarily last night)? I suspect it's because they have so many uber athletes (Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka are all among the most athletic for their positions in the league), and defenders who can't keep up physically are forced to grab and reach. It seems, also, that the refs are impressed with this athleticism, and therefore tend to grant a little more leeway to them on defense themselves. (Ibaka, for example, often fouls but because he's expected to make clean blocks, many of these fouls simply aren't called.)

Love the sunscreen gal but....


Parker is way more athletic and skilled than Westchimp. The announcers ejaculate each other over Chimpbrick and ignore TP....but Tony is not only a better player, he also has more class. And that pains me...to suggest Hollywood has class....

[jARS mEsH sEt]

All conspiracy theories aside, I wonder how they do draw so many fouls (in general, not necessarily last night)? I suspect it's because they have so many uber athletes (Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka are all among the most athletic for their positions in the league), and defenders who can't keep up physically are forced to grab and reach. It seems, also, that the refs are impressed with this athleticism, and therefore tend to grant a little more leeway to them on defense themselves. (Ibaka, for example, often fouls but because he's expected to make clean blocks, many of these fouls simply aren't called.)

The refs selectively choose to call ticky tack "touch fouls" in favor of one team and not another at arbitrary points in the game. That's literally all it is. This works because both teams commit about 50 ticky tack fouls on the other in any given game, but the refs will choose to call 7 of them in favor of one team and 4 of them in favor of another team. Consistent, unbiased reffing would involve calling 50 in favor of both teams or 0 in favor of both teams.

Look at the last 8 free throw attempts given to the Spurs scrubs during garbage time at the end of the game. You don't think our players received that level of contact in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters?

[DarrinS]

Love the sunscreen gal but....


Parker is way more athletic and skilled than Westchimp. The announcers ejaculate each other over Chimpbrick and ignore TP....but Tony is not only a better player, he also has more class. And that pains me...to suggest Hollywood has class....

Parker is more athletic than Russ?

[jARS mEsH sEt]

And by the way, just to be crystal clear, I don't think the last 8 free throws taken by the Spurs' scrubs were deserved. Those are classic, ticky tack "touch fouls" that aren't fouls at all.

[Jimmy Early]

This thread is HILARIOUS!

Totally ignoring the intentional "Hack-an-Adams" strategy that Popovich went to in the third quarter (pretty good move, by the way); totally ignoring the HUGE team foul disparity in the first half.....

But the topper of all the toppers was the "Parker is way more athletic than Westbrook" blast (I'm not even going to honor the primate drivel by repeating it)..... CLASSIC DELUSION!!!!

[jARS mEsH sEt]

I see you OKCfan:



you can't hide from me. I read everything on your ty ass board also. You guys are the laughing stock of the NBA

..

[Jimmy Early]

Did I make any attempt to hide my favorite team?

[jARS mEsH sEt]

This thread is HILARIOUS!

Totally ignoring the intentional "Hack-an-Adams" strategy that Popovich went to in the third quarter (pretty good move, by the way); totally ignoring the HUGE team foul disparity in the first half.....

But the topper of all the toppers was the "Parker is way more athletic than Westbrook" blast (I'm not even going to honor the primate drivel by repeating it)..... CLASSIC DELUSION!!!!

who's ignoring it? OKC was called for 10 fouls in the first half. The Spurs were called for 2. I (and pretty much everybody else on this board) called that bad reffing in favor of the Spurs.

okcfan
delusional about the obvious fact that his team is ref-propped
no one respects your team

Go over to the lakers, clippers, rockets, heat, mavericks, etc. forums. They all say the same thing. No one respects OKC. None of those fans have any reason to "like" each other either.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Go through the game thread. Literally 95%+ of posters were saying "Wow, why are we getting the OKC treatment in the first half of this game?" or something to that effect.

The hilarious part is that blatantly biased reffing in favor of one team is colloquially termed "getting the OKC treatment" not just here but on pretty much every non-OKC NBA forum board on the internet.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Think back to 2007 when Tim Donaghy blatantly rigged the Spurs/Phoenix series in favor of the Spurs, thereby likely stealing a ring from Phoenix. You know what non-Spurs NBA forum members called us? They called us the "San Antonio $terns." Was it warranted? Abso- ing-lutely. We were a ref propped team in that series.

OKC is now the ref propped team of the modern era.

[DMC]

Lol. How many intentional fouls in in this game? 2?

Irrelevant. If you're going to put the other team on the line intentionally, you've lost your credibility where complaining about FT disparity is concerned.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Irrelevant. If you're going to put the other team on the line intentionally, you've lost your credibility where complaining about FT disparity is concerned.

That's a total non-sequitur.

[DMC]

That's a total non-sequitur.

Bull .

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If the foul is your defense mechanism, as it was when Patty fouled Adams, then the foul can also be your undoing. You cannot just exempt the trip to the line when the opponent is a ty FT shooter and then about all the trips for guys who aren't. It shows you want it both ways... to use the foul because you cannot defend, and to be free of repercussions of being in the bonus.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Bull .

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If the foul is your defense mechanism, as it was when Patty fouled Adams, then the foul can also be your undoing. You cannot just exempt the trip to the line when the opponent is a ty FT shooter and then about all the trips for guys who aren't. It shows you want it both ways... to use the foul because you cannot defend, and to be free of repercussions of being in the bonus.

That's a straw man. No one's complaining about all 22 free throw attempts. No one's complaining about the Spurs not receiving 22 FTA to "even things out" with OKC. The game doesn't work like that. With regards to Adams, 4 of them were the result of intentional fouling. 2 of them were the result of a legitimate, non-intentional foul.

22 to 0 is merely a red flag that invites further scrutiny. If all 22 FTA are the result of legitimate fouls (intentional or unintentional), and if the opposing team magically played perfect defense and did not foul our shooters at all, then 22 to 0 is totally legitimate.

[DMC]

That's a straw man. No one's complaining about all 22 free throw attempts. No one's complaining about the Spurs not receiving 22 FTA to "even things out" with OKC. The game doesn't work like that. With regards to Adams, 4 of them were the result of intentional fouling. 2 of them were the result of a legitimate, non-intentional foul.

22 to 0 is merely a red flag that invites further scrutiny. If all 22 FTA are the result of legitimate fouls (intentional or unintentional), and if the opposing team magically played perfect defense and did not foul our shooters at all, then 22 to 0 is totally legitimate.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "strawman". The "mere red flag" has to have a trip point, so what's the magic number? Is it that the Spurs settled for long range bricks by Diaw and a couple others, or the fact that Tim could not hold on to the ball in the paint, or was it that Tony just didn't really attack the rim at all?

There's no strawman here. Your complaint is folly enough. If the Spurs didn't play like a girls' JV, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Letting the Thunder get 4 or 5 offensive rebounds on some shots, including on missed free throws, that's just ty basketball. Don't try to play it off like there's a ref conspiracy afoot.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Irrelevant. If you're going to put the other team on the line intentionally, you've lost your credibility where complaining about FT disparity is concerned.

It didn't stick, then, and it doesn't make any more sense now. Committing two intentional fouls on their poorest FT shooter is within the rules. Engaging in this fair but, by some, frowned-upon practice in no way should disqualify a team from having a fairly reffed game called aginst them. Nor do those two fouls put a dent in the disparity. You're so far off base you may be in a different stadium.