PATFO... Pay Diaw and Mills

[Cry Havoc]

except he's not a point guard.

That would mean his stats are even more impressive.

[smaka]

what do you think we should do? be specific please.

I'd sign Boris for more than 1 year no matter what, no matter if Tim and Manu decide to hang it up next week. He is just too damn valuable for this team to let him go. Spurs, with their orgamization, won't be a lottery team anyways after Tim and Manu quit.
As for Patty, I'd keep him because he has shown a lot of improvemet this year and contributed regularly in the playoffs too. In RS, he is that kind of guy who can win you a game by himself. And I think i don't need to mention how great teammate he is and I'd bet my ass he is one of the guys that contributes the most to team chemistry.
We'll see how much they will be ready to sacrifise to stay in SA.

[keywester]

As a FA, I hope Mills goes for the playing time and money. I've admitted before, I'm a Mills fan. I have to believe Raven is a COJO guy or anti NBA midget guy? Whatever the case, Mills is statistically superior to most PG's and despite his "shortness" I believe he could develop into a top PG. The irony is that i'm sure Miami wouldn't mind having Mills on their roster in these playoffs!!! To my mind, you either follow a player or you follow a team. I'm a player follower and really don't care what team Mills plays for as long as he plays (even in China). His Aussi Boomer mate and college mate Dellavedova plays for the sucky Cav's, but that doesn't stop me from watching the Cav's as I am an fan of both. After all, it's entertainment!!!

[ElNono]

Wish everybody would be back, tbh... but I can't complain if they chase some $$$.... guys like Patty are probably looking at the best payday they're going to get...

[Mugen]

Yeah, I'd love for the team to come back but would certainly be happy for Patty if somebody overpays for him. CoJo is more than capable of being a terrific backup PG.

Boris wouldn't have the same impact if he played for any other team/coach though. Hopefully he likes playing ball with his best friend and takes a fair contract to stay tbh.

[Raven]

I'd sign Boris for more than 1 year no matter what, no matter if Tim and Manu decide to hang it up next week. He is just too damn valuable for this team to let him go. Spurs, with their orgamization, won't be a lottery team anyways after Tim and Manu quit.
As for Patty, I'd keep him because he has shown a lot of improvemet this year and contributed regularly in the playoffs too. In RS, he is that kind of guy who can win you a game by himself. And I think i don't need to mention how great teammate he is and I'd bet my ass he is one of the guys that contributes the most to team chemistry.
We'll see how much they will be ready to sacrifise to stay in SA.

You're probably assuming parker stays, do i understand right? I dont think it would be wise tbh, we risk ending like the rockets this way imo

[Hemotivo]

#PayBoris #PayPatty

[Hemotivo]

Yeah, let's not keep this guy, he hasn't done anything note-worthy.

amazing year

[Texas_Ranger]

Last season Nate Robinson and Belinelli had a great season and they were bot amazing in the playoffs. Look how much they got. Just a little more then 2M. Do you really think Patty is worth 5M? I'd get it if Boris would get that money but not Patty.

[Raven]

As a FA, I hope Mills goes for the playing time and money. I've admitted before, I'm a Mills fan. I have to believe Raven is a COJO guy or anti NBA midget guy? Whatever the case, Mills is statistically superior to most PG's and despite his "shortness" I believe he could develop into a top PG. The irony is that i'm sure Miami wouldn't mind having Mills on their roster in these playoffs!!! To my mind, you either follow a player or you follow a team. I'm a player follower and really don't care what team Mills plays for as long as he plays (even in China). His Aussi Boomer mate and college mate Dellavedova plays for the sucky Cav's, but that doesn't stop me from watching the Cav's as I am an fan of both. After all, it's entertainment!!!

yes you're right, i don't see patty as a starting pg because he can't defend the westchimps of the league and is not really a pg in the playmaker sense of the word. With us he's basically a shooter and glue guy which is great but if i have to pay him 8 a year, well count me out. If it's less, well perhaps...

[keywester]

Last season Nate Robinson and Belinelli had a great season and they were bot amazing in the playoffs. Look how much they got. Just a little more then 2M. Do you really think Patty is worth 5M? I'd get it if Boris would get that money but not Patty.

Good point!! Lets compare Splitter's contibution and wage to Mill's contribution and wage. It's always a gamble. Is one worth ten times the other? Sometimes yes...sometimes no.

[Raven]

Last season Nate Robinson and Belinelli had a great season and they were bot amazing in the playoffs. Look how much they got. Just a little more then 2M. Do you really think Patty is worth 5M? I'd get it if Boris would get that money but not Patty.

lakers tbh

[buttsR4rebounding]

I think Mills leaves. He will be offered good money and will take it. Players might take a cut for the team after they have made theirs, but never on your first big contract. You can never assume there will be a second or that you can command as much a year later. He also probably gets a legit shot at being a starting point guard in the NBA. He won't pass that up. I think Diaw stays. The Spurs will pay him a fair amount. He knows he blends with this team the best in the league and he gets to play with one of his best friends. You can replace what Mills brings much easier than Diaw. The likelihood IMO is that Leonard takes up those shots next year anyway. I would be surprised if next year Leonard is not at least the 2nd leading scorer on the team.

[keywester]

I think Mills leaves. He will be offered good money and will take it. Players might take a cut for the team after they have made theirs, but never on your first big contract. You can never assume there will be a second or that you can command as much a year later. He also probably gets a legit shot at being a starting point guard in the NBA. He won't pass that up. I think Diaw stays. The Spurs will pay him a fair amount. He knows he blends with this team the best in the league and he gets to play with one of his best friends. You can replace what Mills brings much easier than Diaw. The likelihood IMO is that Leonard takes up those shots next year anyway. I would be surprised if next year Leonard is not at least the 2nd leading scorer on the team.

I believe your analysis is spot on!!!

[cjw]

lakers tbh

They're not looking to clog cap space right now. Trying to clear everything out.

[DJR210]

amazing year

And all these accomplishments without using the "three goggles" once this season..epic

[pad300]

I think we should be able to keep Boris - I see the most him getting on the open market is something like $15M/3years (ie. the MLE for 3 years). Patty on the other hand, I see someone falling in love and chucking $6-8 Million /season at him; I can't see us matching that. Cojo should be able to step up though, I really liked him in the Thunder Series. Further, what do people think of trading Belinelli (or Next years first or both for 2 picks) for a high (31-39) second in this draft. I think there are potentially some very good players that will fall to the 2nd round in this draft - it's really loaded...

[keywester]

I think we should be able to keep Boris - I see the most him getting on the open market is something like $15M/3years (ie. the MLE for 3 years). Patty on the other hand, I see someone falling in love and chucking $6-8 Million /season at him; I can't see us matching that. Cojo should be able to step up though, I really liked him in the Thunder Series. Further, what do people think of trading Belinelli (or Next years first or both for 2 picks) for a high (31-39) second in this draft. I think there are potentially some very good players that will fall to the 2nd round in this draft - it's really loaded...

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Patty 6-8 million? Please don't tell him about the offer before he earns his ring!!! Just kidding!!! I'm sure Patty will do his bst despite the money!!!

[cjw]

Further, what do people think of trading Belinelli (or Next years first or both for 2 picks) for a high (31-39) second in this draft.

I actually wouldn't mind trading Beli, Ayres and Daye (all expirings, plus Daye can be bought out for savings of $750k) - $5 million of salary going out, along with the first rounder, to a team on the rebuild for the right piece coming back on a longer contract.

I trust the front office knows what it's doing. Tons of flexibility heading into the offseason with no albatross contracts to contend with. Can bring the whole gang back together if it wants, or if Mills prices himself out, spend that money elsewhere. Worst case, they'll have around $4 million of cap room (if Diaw signs at $5-$6 million) plus the small midlevel to bring in someone to replace him.

[TheGreatYacht]

I think we should be able to keep Boris - I see the most him getting on the open market is something like $15M/3years (ie. the MLE for 3 years). Patty on the other hand, I see someone falling in love and chucking $6-8 Million /season at him; I can't see us matching that. Cojo should be able to step up though, I really liked him in the Thunder Series. Further, what do people think of trading Belinelli (or Next years first or both for 2 picks) for a high (31-39) second in this draft. I think there are potentially some very good players that will fall to the 2nd round in this draft - it's really loaded...

I'm a COJO hater. The guy never showed up when he had minutes as a backup last year in the playoffs/season. IMO people are overrating what he did against OKC when they had stopped trying...

Mills made Manu's job in the bench so much easier this year, running point, hitting open shots, provide the energy on both ends, hit CRAZY shots. Like I said before, Mills won us homecourt this year... He stepped up when our old guys rested when he EXPLODED and hit crazy shots against the Blazers, Bobcats, Clippers, Warriors, Wizards, etc.
Plus, you can't buy team chemistry. Patty was the glue that kept everyone's head up even in his bench warming days. The guy made "frogging"

IMO Mills is worth 4yr/ 20M

[tholdren]

Doubt Tim retires if they win game 5. Why not break a ton of records next year and go for the Jordan tie? Heck, he might even take a pay cut to make sure we resign everyone and maybe add another piece or two.

This is what I am thinking.

[Spur|n|Austin]

#PayBoris #PayPatty

[BackHome]

I actually wouldn't mind trading Beli, Ayres and Daye (all expirings, plus Daye can be bought out for savings of $750k) - $5 million of salary going out, along with the first rounder, to a team on the rebuild for the right piece coming back on a longer contract.

I trust the front office knows what it's doing. Tons of flexibility heading into the offseason with no albatross contracts to contend with. Can bring the whole gang back together if it wants, or if Mills prices himself out, spend that money elsewhere. Worst case, they'll have around $4 million of cap room (if Diaw signs at $5-$6 million) plus the small midlevel to bring in someone to replace him.

I like that trading B.A.D for a athletic SG/PF or a higher draft pick.

[Mark in Austin]

Engelland: 5yr, 5M
Diaw: 2yr, 10M
Mills: 4yr, 16M

[TheGreatYacht]

I like that trading B.A.D for a athletic SG/PF or a higher draft pick.

J.R Smith? I'm sure Phil wants no part of him and his ty contract

All he needs to do is hit his open shots, listen to Pop, believe in the system, quit gang banging thots, quit smoking, stop drinking, and be European...