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    I think that with the talent available in the middle of the second round,they'd consider moving up or acquiring a 3rd second rounder. If Micic really falls to the second round (all but Draft Net has him higher than 39th) They could take someone like McGary with the 30th and stash the other 3 picks or sign one to a Blair deal on the cheap.

    As for Cojo, the Spurs could replace him a veteran PG who is slightly cheaper (like Udrih). The Spurs could still resign Mills. 3 point guards came in handy this season and will likely next year.


    If the Spurs don't stash, i agree that the player they bringing wouldn't likely be a player who can contribute next year.
    I really don't like McGary as a fit on the Spurs but that's personal preference, I don't think he'll be there at 30 when the Spurs draft but you are correct there are a ton of solid players in the 2nd round. I could see the Spurs moving someone to get a 3rd option but I'd much rather see them deal Ayres somewhere than to give up Joseph, that guy fits the Spurs motif, he comes in when asked and does what he's told. He's been bumped around and hasn't cried about playing time.

    I can't wait to see the Summer League games, whoever we draft, we will get to see what they can offer.

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    I really don't like McGary as a fit on the Spurs but that's personal preference, I don't think he'll be there at 30 when the Spurs draft but you are correct there are a ton of solid players in the 2nd round. I could see the Spurs moving someone to get a 3rd option but I'd much rather see them deal Ayres somewhere than to give up Joseph, that guy fits the Spurs motif, he comes in when asked and does what he's told. He's been bumped around and hasn't cried about playing time.

    I can't wait to see the Summer League games, whoever we draft, we will get to see what they can offer.

    Same here, unless they draft and stash.

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    Some have mentioned Capela, but I honestly don't see him as a realistic option where the Spurs are drafting. I think the same for Anderson...just don't see either guy falling all the way to the last pick in the first.

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    You guys need to draft your next euro star wing like you did with Manu and Parker lol. Kawahi can't be the only star of the future lol

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    My favorite was Porzings, but he wouldn't fall to SA (OKC would probably take him) and now he is out of the draft.

    Right now I am also in the Micic bandwagon. I like Inglis, but Micic is definitely a better pick with the 30th pick. I wouldn't mind Glen Robinson III as well. I think he is getting overlooked. He is still a great prospect, especially if you can get him with the 30th pick.
    I agree Micic or Inglish is our 30th pick. After that I would somehow trade CoJo and get a top second round pick could possibility get Bog

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    IMO, here are the players we want this year and who will be available where were picking at 30:

    K.J McDaniels (Clemson) - Were still looking for a back-up SF, and this guy is 6'6, plays very aggressive on D and boards extremely well. Needs to work on his 3 ball.

    Joe Harris (Virginia) - Another 6'6 SF, but his offensive game is more refined.

    DeAndre Daniels (UConn) - 6'8 combo SF/PF that has an outside shot and inside game as well. Would be a slight reach at 30 though.

    Picks 58, and 60:

    Josh Huestis (Stanford) - 6'7 SF who can do a bit of everything. Not as talented as McDaniels, Harris or DeAndre Daniels, but not a bad concession either.

    Ioannis Papaetrou (Greece) - 6'8 SF who I saw play at Texas for one year. He can handle the ball really well and score inside and out. Question his toughness a bit though.

    Nick Johnson (Arizona) - Most likely won't be available at 58, but he's a of an athlete at PG and wouldn't be passed up if he was available. If he had satyed at Arizona 1 more year he would have been a lock for the 1st round.

    Dwight Powell (Stanford) - 6'11 power forward with a ton of muscle and a good feel around the rim. Like Johnson, he'll most likely be drafted before the Spurs can get to him. But he'd certainly be on their list.

    Pretty sure we'll draft K.J. Mcdaniels at 30 and trade the 58, and 60th picks for the 48th pick and try to get DeAndre Daniels. We'll see.

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    IMO, here are the players we want this year and who will be available where were picking at 30:

    K.J McDaniels (Clemson) - Were still looking for a back-up SF, and this guy is 6'6, plays very aggressive on D and boards extremely well. Needs to work on his 3 ball.

    Joe Harris (Virginia) - Another 6'6 SF, but his offensive game is more refined.

    DeAndre Daniels (UConn) - 6'8 combo SF/PF that has an outside shot and inside game as well. Would be a slight reach at 30 though.

    Picks 58, and 60:

    Josh Huestis (Stanford) - 6'7 SF who can do a bit of everything. Not as talented as McDaniels, Harris or DeAndre Daniels, but not a bad concession either.

    Ioannis Papaetrou (Greece) - 6'8 SF who I saw play at Texas for one year. He can handle the ball really well and score inside and out. Question his toughness a bit though.

    Nick Johnson (Arizona) - Most likely won't be available at 58, but he's a of an athlete at PG and wouldn't be passed up if he was available. If he had satyed at Arizona 1 more year he would have been a lock for the 1st round.

    Dwight Powell (Stanford) - 6'11 power forward with a ton of muscle and a good feel around the rim. Like Johnson, he'll most likely be drafted before the Spurs can get to him. But he'd certainly be on their list.

    Pretty sure we'll draft K.J. Mcdaniels at 30 and trade the 58, and 60th picks for the 48th pick and try to get DeAndre Daniels. We'll see.
    Nice take, thanks.

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    Joe Harris would be a massive reach at 30. Not happening. The Spurs will likely go SF or PG, depending on what Patty does in FA. A big man like Tavares is not out of the question, though.

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    I really don't like McGary as a fit on the Spurs but that's personal preference, I don't think he'll be there at 30 when the Spurs draft but you are correct there are a ton of solid players in the 2nd round. I could see the Spurs moving someone to get a 3rd option but I'd much rather see them deal Ayres somewhere than to give up Joseph, that guy fits the Spurs motif, he comes in when asked and does what he's told. He's been bumped around and hasn't cried about playing time.

    I can't wait to see the Summer League games, whoever we draft, we will get to see what they can offer.
    I don't watch much (really any) college ball so most of my opinions are simply based on analyst and mixes. You seem like you follow college ball more so than I do so you have a ,likely, better idea than I would about him.

    Based on his size and mobility (specifically his transition game and being able to switch on screens) that ,alone, sounds promising throw in some boarding and he 't can't be far behind Baynes and Ayers in terms of usefulness as a 4th big.

    I necessarily want the Spurs to move Cojo, but I really don't think there is any market for Ayers, even to Phily who has 5 second rounders (very few 2nd rounders ever play in the NBA or have a career longer than 4 years) if packaged with Cojo they'd have a trade value of 5.8 million which could be appealing to a team with a player with more than one year remaining, given both are free agents after next season.

    The Wizards could be interested, they have 7 players on the hook for 45,500,000. Ariza and Gortat (3rd and 5th in scoring) are both UFA's and had strong seasons. They'd eat up a big chunk of that $17.5 in cap space. If both receive more than last years salaries that would be great than $14.5 million.


    Wizards get: Ayers, & Joseph
    Spurs Get: Webster/Porter and the 46th pick in the draft

    I'd wonder if they would move Porter or Webster who have $8.7 and $16.8 million owed to them over the next 2 and 3 years. A move would save them money now (between 500,000 and 1.2 million) this years and millions down the road.

    Cojo ,to say, Phily makes some since with Brown being there and the 32nd, 39th, 47th, 52nd, & 54th picks. I doubt they intend to draft 7 players ,but who knows.


    Spurs get: 39th and 47th picks

    76'ers get: Cory Joseph, & the 58th pick

    or

    Spurs get: 32nd and 52nd picks

    76'ers get: Cory Joseph, 58th & the 60th picks


    The Cojo has value to the Spurs as a defender and his capability to initiate the offense. I also think he is underrated on offense, he doesn't take bad shots and can knock down jumpers off screens along with attacking the basket. Not a great 3pt shooter but is a low volume, high percentage type ala Parker. He could be a competent backup to MCW.

    But I think the Spurs have a legit shot at resigning Mills and Cojo can be replaced with a veteran guard.

    I like the idea of acquiring a 3rd pick or at least moving up the 2nd round to nap another quality prospect.

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    You guys need to draft your next euro star wing like you did with Manu and Parker lol. Kawahi can't be the only star of the future lol
    Not bad for the 15th pick in a bad draft. After Irving and maybe Thompson, he's been the best in the draft thus far.

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    McGary will have an impact in the league somewhere, I think, although his upside is limited. But as a hard as banger who is mobile and has skills, at the of the first round, early second he's worth a shot for some team.

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    NBAdraft.net has Bogdanovic going to the Spurs, a 6.6 SG.

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    I don't watch much (really any) college ball so most of my opinions are simply based on analyst and mixes. You seem like you follow college ball more so than I do so you have a ,likely, better idea than I would about him.

    Based on his size and mobility (specifically his transition game and being able to switch on screens) that ,alone, sounds promising throw in some boarding and he 't can't be far behind Baynes and Ayers in terms of usefulness as a 4th big.

    I necessarily want the Spurs to move Cojo, but I really don't think there is any market for Ayers, even to Phily who has 5 second rounders (very few 2nd rounders ever play in the NBA or have a career longer than 4 years) if packaged with Cojo they'd have a trade value of 5.8 million which could be appealing to a team with a player with more than one year remaining, given both are free agents after next season.

    The Wizards could be interested, they have 7 players on the hook for 45,500,000. Ariza and Gortat (3rd and 5th in scoring) are both UFA's and had strong seasons. They'd eat up a big chunk of that $17.5 in cap space. If both receive more than last years salaries that would be great than $14.5 million.


    Wizards get: Ayers, & Joseph
    Spurs Get: Webster/Porter and the 46th pick in the draft

    I'd wonder if they would move Porter or Webster who have $8.7 and $16.8 million owed to them over the next 2 and 3 years. A move would save them money now (between 500,000 and 1.2 million) this years and millions down the road.

    Cojo ,to say, Phily makes some since with Brown being there and the 32nd, 39th, 47th, 52nd, & 54th picks. I doubt they intend to draft 7 players ,but who knows.


    Spurs get: 39th and 47th picks

    76'ers get: Cory Joseph, & the 58th pick

    or

    Spurs get: 32nd and 52nd picks

    76'ers get: Cory Joseph, 58th & the 60th picks


    The Cojo has value to the Spurs as a defender and his capability to initiate the offense. I also think he is underrated on offense, he doesn't take bad shots and can knock down jumpers off screens along with attacking the basket. Not a great 3pt shooter but is a low volume, high percentage type ala Parker. He could be a competent backup to MCW.

    But I think the Spurs have a legit shot at resigning Mills and Cojo can be replaced with a veteran guard.

    I like the idea of acquiring a 3rd pick or at least moving up the 2nd round to nap another quality prospect.
    McGary has great footwork for his size, he's not super fast but he's able to get set quick to pick up defenders off pick n roll which is nice but his length is very suspect for his size. His wing span is a shade under 7' so he's not really a rim protector and he doesn't have a jump shot or a post game but that could be developed. I do agree that he has more upside than Ayres as a backup because Ayres has been in the league a while, been in the college scene and has absolutely zero game. I don't think he'll be there at 30, more than likely I'd see him going to Houston as they potentially will try to move Asik and they will want a big who can rebound and run the floor.

    If moving Joseph could net us Porter and some picks I would consider it, lots of upside with Porter but that scrappy play of Joseph is something we'd probably miss and the FA at PG don't have that kind of panache when they need that spark off the bench. In that situation then we would have to draft a PG in the 1st and send him through summer league or take a combo guard and try to convert them like they have tried to do with Neal, Colo, etc. And if they go that route hopefully they go with someone who has size and/or speed.

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    I think McGary's positive marijuana test alone will keep the Spurs away tbh.

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    I think McGary's positive marijuana test alone will keep the Spurs away tbh.
    That, and I don't think the Spurs are looking for #30 talent at #30. If that's all that is there, they'll either take a flyer on a foreigner, or dump the pick.

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    That, and I don't think the Spurs are looking for #30 talent at #30. If that's all that is there, they'll either take a flyer on a foreigner, or dump the pick.
    There is a slight possibility they will move up IMHO.

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    I think McGary's positive marijuana test alone will keep the Spurs away tbh.
    I didn't even think about that. That would probably keep them away

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    I don't watch much (really any) college ball so most of my opinions are simply based on analyst and mixes. You seem like you follow college ball more so than I do so you have a ,likely, better idea than I would about him.

    Based on his size and mobility (specifically his transition game and being able to switch on screens) that ,alone, sounds promising throw in some boarding and he 't can't be far behind Baynes and Ayers in terms of usefulness as a 4th big.

    I necessarily want the Spurs to move Cojo, but I really don't think there is any market for Ayers, even to Phily who has 5 second rounders (very few 2nd rounders ever play in the NBA or have a career longer than 4 years) if packaged with Cojo they'd have a trade value of 5.8 million which could be appealing to a team with a player with more than one year remaining, given both are free agents after next season.

    The Wizards could be interested, they have 7 players on the hook for 45,500,000. Ariza and Gortat (3rd and 5th in scoring) are both UFA's and had strong seasons. They'd eat up a big chunk of that $17.5 in cap space. If both receive more than last years salaries that would be great than $14.5 million.


    Wizards get: Ayers, & Joseph
    Spurs Get: Webster/Porter and the 46th pick in the draft

    I'd wonder if they would move Porter or Webster who have $8.7 and $16.8 million owed to them over the next 2 and 3 years. A move would save them money now (between 500,000 and 1.2 million) this years and millions down the road.

    Cojo ,to say, Phily makes some since with Brown being there and the 32nd, 39th, 47th, 52nd, & 54th picks. I doubt they intend to draft 7 players ,but who knows.


    Spurs get: 39th and 47th picks

    76'ers get: Cory Joseph, & the 58th pick

    or

    Spurs get: 32nd and 52nd picks

    76'ers get: Cory Joseph, 58th & the 60th picks


    The Cojo has value to the Spurs as a defender and his capability to initiate the offense. I also think he is underrated on offense, he doesn't take bad shots and can knock down jumpers off screens along with attacking the basket. Not a great 3pt shooter but is a low volume, high percentage type ala Parker. He could be a competent backup to MCW.

    But I think the Spurs have a legit shot at resigning Mills and Cojo can be replaced with a veteran guard.

    I like the idea of acquiring a 3rd pick or at least moving up the 2nd round to nap another quality prospect.
    I don't want Webster's contract, but I'd like Porter. I don't think Washington would do that, though, especially not for Ayres. I'd do both Philly trades provided a PG was taken at 30. I'd prefer the second one. I'd consider the Sixers to be an unlikely partner as well, though.

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    I don't want Webster's contract, but I'd like Porter. I don't think Washington would do that, though, especially not for Ayres. I'd do both Philly trades provided a PG was taken at 30. I'd prefer the second one. I'd consider the Sixers to be an unlikely partner as well, though.
    Although highly unlikely Spurs could do those trades with 76ers and then package those picks to move into the top 15 to take a higher prospect. Atlanta, Orlando, Minny might make solid trade partners

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    There is a slight possibility they will move up IMHO.
    They have assets overseas, plus next year's pick, something Phoenix has been sniffing around for. I think they realized that a lot of first rounders in one draft means a lot of players needing to get paid all at the same time.

    Picks that may be in play
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    They have assets overseas, plus next year's pick, something Phoenix has been sniffing around for. I think they realized that a lot of first rounders in one draft means a lot of players needing to get paid all at the same time.

    Picks that may be in play
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    Excellent post, I was just wondering about that. And the Suns were the first team that came to mind.
    Or they could draft and stash.

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    Pretty sure no NBA team wants to do business with the Spurs. I think everyone pretty much knows that when you do business with the Spurs they are going to come out on top. And when that happens your fans are going to let you know about it.

    Same thing happened a few years ago when the Lakers had Jerry West. No one wanted to do business with the Lakers because they didn't want to give the Lakers the Next Kobe.

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    Pretty sure no NBA team wants to do business with the Spurs. I think everyone pretty much knows that when you do business with the Spurs they are going to come out on top. And when that happens your fans are going to let you know about it.

    Same thing happened a few years ago when the Lakers had Jerry West. No one wanted to do business with the Lakers because they didn't want to give the Lakers the Next Kobe.
    It's a business, not high school. There are teams that want to add or subtract picks from this draft.

    The Spurs aren't infallible, either. Remember Malik Hairston for Dragic? Phoenix is one of those teams wanting to shed a pick or two...

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    I've seen a number of mocks include Chad Ford's mock having McGary at #30. I personally hate that. There is quite a range of guys who could fall to #30. It all depends on your take. I like Micic, Capela, Christon, Daniels and a number of other options. I would love for the Spurs to buy a higher 2nd round pick to get a secondary option as well. But we likely know that's a pipedream.

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    Why are you all lookng to draft and stash? As you have said this is a deep draft and if youbhave forgotten we still dont have a clear back-up to whi, isnt this draft the best place to get a backup to Whi? Or is Bertans finally playing next season

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