Official Trade/Signing Ideas Thread

[Mel_13]

You missed the point. You missed the point.

I don't think I did. Your words were clear.

[Chinook]

The Spurs could save an extra $750K by getting rid of Daye, and perhaps an extra $1m if Baynes is not extended a QO. The thing is, those are not bad contracts, and the Spurs will need some of those cheap deals to fill up the roster. Both are young, potentially "project" guys.

Bringing back Matty for the vet minimum will likely cost almost $1.5m, so that's another angle to consider.

Min contracts can be signed at any time, so the team doesn't have to earmark cap space for Bonner. If anything, Matt's high min salary s a good thing.

[tholdren]

Yes, he's en led to post on any subject he pleases. As are you. As am I.

When someone posts, they invite comments on their posts. Just as you have just commented on mine.

That's how it works.

Yes, the irony is you called him out for trolling, then obviously trolled, as you are now, by responding on a tangent and avoiding any and all accusations/wrongdoing.

not a very inventive style if you ask me.

[ElNono]

They would if Duncan opted out and in for less. It's not likely to happen though. Boris has another thing coming if he thinks he's going to touch 2 years $18M. He can dream though.

Tim already took a paycut on his current deal. If Tim opts in, it's going to be on those $10m...

[ElNono]

Min contracts can be signed at any time, so the team doesn't have to earmark cap space for Bonner. If anything, Matt's high min salary s a good thing.

I thought if they sign him before the season starts, he counts towards the cap?

[Chinook]

I thought if they sign him before the season starts, he counts towards the cap?

It always counts toward the cap, but the Spurs could use their cap space and still sign Bonner afterwards.

[Mel_13]

Yes, the irony is you called him out for trolling, then obviously trolled, as you are now, by responding on a tangent and avoiding any and all accusations/wrongdoing.

not a very inventive style if you ask me.

I have no idea what you're ranting about.

[ElNono]

My point was if someone was to get that kind of money, I'd rather it be Pau.. Mills gave up money last year to opt in and prove to Pop that he can be a rotation guy, so I don't think he's against staying if it was up to him. Also, he might not get the big money he expects because Lebron could make 10M/yr next season, and I doubt Patty will get offered anywhere close to that, even by a lottery team. RC should match any offer IMO

The only way the Spurs could offer $9m/year is by getting Patty extremely cheaply (around $2m/year, unlikely) and by backloading the other deal (ie: 3 years, $7m/$9m/$11m). And I'm not even sure that $2m backloading is even legal under the CBA.

[ElNono]

It always counts toward the cap, but the Spurs could use their cap space and still sign Bonner afterwards.

I see, thanks. So the risk would be with the Spurs having to keep an eye not to get pushed towards the luxury threshold.

[tholdren]

I have no idea what you're ranting about.

to refresh your memory and keep you from troll-jocking
Originally Posted by Mel_13
That's not how it works. Learn the rules before you post.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to spoonfeed someone who spends as much time trolling as you do.

Rest assured that anyone who understands this business has already identified you as a poser.

So, if you want to sit at the big people table then learn the rules and stop the troll jobs. Otherwise, troll away.

[Chinook]

I see, thanks. So the risk would be with the Spurs having to keep an eye not to get pushed towards the luxury threshold.

Yeah, but as Mel said, if it's a one-year deal, it'd only count for about a million against ths cap/tax.

[Mel_13]

to refresh your memory and keep you from troll-jocking
Originally Posted by Mel_13
That's not how it works. Learn the rules before you post.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to spoonfeed someone who spends as much time trolling as you do.

Rest assured that anyone who understands this business has already identified you as a poser.

So, if you want to sit at the big people table then learn the rules and stop the troll jobs. Otherwise, troll away.

I posted that. What's your point?

[ElNono]

Yeah, but as Mel said, if it's a one-year deal, it'd only count for about a million against ths cap/tax.

it will be interesting to see where the threshold is set at.. IIRC, it hasn't been growing at the same pace as the cap...

[Chinook]

it will be interesting to see where the threshold is set at.. IIRC, it hasn't been growing at the same pace as the cap...

It'd be weird if it wasn't. The floor, cap and tax are each percentages of revenue, if I recall correctly. They should all stay proportionate to each other.

[Mel_13]

it will be interesting to see where the threshold is set at.. IIRC, it hasn't been growing at the same pace as the cap...

It's tied to same calculations, IIRC. I've read that the tax line will be around 77M if the cap is 63M. They won't be in any danger of touching 77M, even with nice raises for Boris and Patty and using the full MLE.

[SpursRock20]

It's tied to same calculations, IIRC. I've read that the tax line will be around 77M if the cap is 63M. They won't be in any danger of touching 77M, even with nice raises for Boris and Patty and using the full MLE.

You mind elaborating on "nice raises"? Is that like 9 mil for Boris and 5 mil for Patty?

[ElNono]

It'd be weird if it wasn't. The floor, cap and tax are each percentages of revenue, if I recall correctly. They should all stay proportionate to each other.

I just looked it up, and you're correct. My confusion stems because they did narrow the gap, percentage-wise, in the 2011 CBA (used to be a 10% gap between cap and luxury, now it's a 8.77% gap).

As the BRI increases, the amount of money that makes up the gap should also increase.

[Mel_13]

You mind elaborating on "nice raises"? Is that like 9 mil for Boris and 5 mil for Patty?

Those would certainly be nice raises and, most would agree, near the upper limit of what they can hope for. Then the length of the contract comes into play. With Patty, the possibility to start could also be a factor.

[Poolboy5623]

Any predictions on who this summer's ak47 will be?

[Chinook]

Any predictions on who this summer's ak47 will be?

Meaning, what? The guy whom Spurs fans covet but goes to another team or the guy who unexpectedly gets a small contract?

[Poolboy5623]

Meaning, what? The guy whom Spurs fans covet but goes to another team or the guy who unexpectedly gets a small contract?

Both?...minimum 50-70 thread pages..

[Chinook]

Both?...minimum 50-70 thread pages..

I doubt there are any from the Spurs' perspective. The team has no hole for which they should pursue a veteran. Last year it was Kirilenko. Two years before that it was Caron Butler/Grant Hill. I doubt the Spurs are really going to target anyone this year unless they lose Mills and/or Diaw.

[Poolboy5623]

I know...different year..different situations. Boris is this year's ak, unless he signs early.

[100%duncan]

I just really hope we can bring patty and boris back... That's all I ask

[superbigtime]

Nobody talking about Baynes, I hope he can find a spot.