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    How about ..why we shouldn't still be ing about Game 6 3 months later. Yeah..that sounds better.
    The Spurs are the in' CHAMPIONS! That sounds even better!

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    The Spurs are the in' CHAMPIONS! That sounds even better!
    I think some on here have forgotten about that little known fact.



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    And right on queue with the op bump( you op for jinxing us!) another le lost for the Spurs because they don't foul...

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    The odds are still in favor of fouling in that situation instead of not fouling, especially if you in scenario when you going to lose 5 point lead with 28 sec left against the Lebron Heat and you know that overtime is like a loss...
    disagree. up 3 with 28 seconds, you play it out and contest any 3pt attempt. Just putting a hand up drops the probability by 20% the league average for 3pt percentage is around 35%.

    Why not force the team into a desperation heave that wastes 5-10 seconds. If they miss and you can board, then 1 FT makes it a 2 possession game. Instead of stopping the clock and giving 2 points and putting pressure on yourself to not miss when up 1.

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    disagree. up 3 with 28 seconds, you play it out and contest any 3pt attempt. Just putting a hand up drops the probability by 20% the league average for 3pt percentage is around 35%.

    Why not force the team into a desperation heave that wastes 5-10 seconds. If they miss and you can board, then 1 FT makes it a 2 possession game. Instead of stopping the clock and giving 2 points and putting pressure on yourself to not miss when up 1.
    Not talking about 28 seconds, but somthing like 14 or less you foul Because the odds are in favor of fouling and let the team 2 free throws without oportonity to tie the game instead of let them oportonity to a three and tying the game...

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    disagree. up 3 with 28 seconds, you play it out and contest any 3pt attempt. Just putting a hand up drops the probability by 20% the league average for 3pt percentage is around 35%.

    Why not force the team into a desperation heave that wastes 5-10 seconds. If they miss and you can board, then 1 FT makes it a 2 possession game. Instead of stopping the clock and giving 2 points and putting pressure on yourself to not miss when up 1.
    I'm not sure where you're getting your figures from. There is not much difference in percentage between contested 3's and non-contested 3's. Why do you think coaches tell their players to run guys of the 3pt line. Contesting is not enough if you really need to prevent a 3.

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    Not talking about 28 seconds, but somthing like 14 or less you foul Because the odds are in favor of fouling and let the team 2 free throws without oportonity to tie the game instead of let them oportonity to a three and tying the game...
    The odds are greatly in favor of getting the win by doing just as you mentioned, fouling vs letting them hork the game tying trey.
    http://www.82games.com/lawhorn.htm

    In the case of the Spurs letting LeBron and then Ray Allen shoot the treys, the most glaring strategic failure was all 5 Spurs going for the rebound vs staying home and guarding the arc. Most notably Parker, who left Ray Allen and came in to try to get the rebound, leaving Allen 15 feet open. When a two pointer was meaningless at that point. When the ball was in the air on the 1st 3 point attempt (by Bosh i think), Parker and at least one other Spur should have been glued to the Heat players beyond the arc.

    With LeBrons trey at :28 while up 6, it came after a missed shot attempt then Heat getting the O rebound and tossing it back beyond the arc to LeBron. No way in he should have been left wide open outside the arc.

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    disagree. up 3 with 28 seconds, you play it out and contest any 3pt attempt. Just putting a hand up drops the probability by 20% the league average for 3pt percentage is around 35%.

    Why not force the team into a desperation heave that wastes 5-10 seconds. If they miss and you can board, then 1 FT makes it a 2 possession game. Instead of stopping the clock and giving 2 points and putting pressure on yourself to not miss when up 1.


    I'm not sure where you're getting your figures from. There is not much difference in percentage between contested 3's and non-contested 3's. Why do you think coaches tell their players to run guys of the 3pt line. Contesting is not enough if you really need to prevent a 3.
    See above from 82Games.com
    In 32 instances of a team electing to foul and thus force the opponent to make one free throw, miss the 2nd, AND get the O rebound AND then make the shot.....it happened 3 times out of 32.

    Vs 20% of the time a team makes the Hail Mary trey.

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    Again I mean really.......

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