I can't wait to see the end of the Tony and Tony show...in the offensive end.

[Kidd K]

4 les with him starting, 0 les as "Parker's team"

0 les as anyone but "Duncan's team".

Let's not act like anyone else ever carried us anywhere.

[barakz21]

I don't have a dvr, therefore, I can't record the games..... Is there any site where I can watch all the replays?

[pgardn]

0 les as anyone but "Duncan's team".

Let's not act like anyone else ever carried us anywhere.

So we win championships without Robinson, Manu, Tony... Boris

You think if Boris did not play we win this year?

TEAM

[Daniel Sedin]

*sigh*


apa is such an annoying, ty poster.. It's such a good thing people tend to ignore him now.

[apalisoc_9]

Boo hoo ha..



Duncan won us championships bo ho ha

The fact of the matter is that, it's not the best offensive weapon anymore. Spurs fan still clinging to the past

[tdunk21]

Dumbass

[Warlord23]

Boo hoo ha..



Duncan won us championships bo ho ha

The fact of the matter is that, it's not the best offensive weapon anymore. Spurs fan still clinging to the past

The Spurs won as a team, no one player "carried" them in the traditional sense. However Duncan has an excellent case for having been the best Spur in the 2014 playoffs. He was #1 in minutes, #1 in PER, #2 in points, #1 in rebounds, #1 in win shares and was the lynchpin of the interior defense. At 38, he remains the most irreplaceable player on the team and one of the true 2-way bigs left in the league.

Regarding his usage on the offensive end, he took only 12.4 fga per game in the playoffs and shot 52%. How many fewer shots would you want him to take?

[Malik Hairston]

OP is one of the 5 best posters on ST, tbh, and he's absolutely correct in his assessment..

Tony-Tim as the primary options was successful in 2013 because Parker had a dominant year and Duncan had an offensive rejuvenation due to the consistency of his mid-range jump shot..in 2014, Duncan struggled with his shot and Parker had a mediocre year, which killed the Duncan-Parker 2-man game and led to early season struggles for the Spurs(along with Leonard and Green struggling with the 3-point shot)..

Parker had a sub-par playoff run in 2014, the Spurs were actually statistically better when he sat on the bench, so it's evident that the team learned to play without the "star" version of TP during this le run(which is a priority going forward, since his decline has begun)..

Duncan was great as an all-around player in 2014, but he struggled as an iso creator, he had much more success playing off the ball and playing through his teammates, tbh..

The 2014 Spurs are the most team-oriented squad in NBA history, the most unique team of all-time and one of the 3 best overall teams since the 80s..they don't rely entirely on individual play, it's an antiquated concept IMO, and part of reaching that goal was because they diverted from the Parker-Duncan 2-man game..

[Warlord23]

OP has created a thread based on a nonexistent problem, especially after the Spurs put up arguably the best passing display in NBA history. While he is technically right, one might also create threads like:
I can't wait till Pop stops playing Bonner 20 mpg
I can't wait to see Manu be the primary ball handler with the second unit
I can't wait till Splitter gets out of Pop's doghouse
Etc...

All issues that might have occurred in the past, but not applicable now

[El Guapo]

Day late dolla short pendejo!

[anakha]

For someone who creates so many threads, you still need a lot of coaching..you even ed up the thread le. You are nearly the Jeff Ayers of ST, apalisoc_9

[wildchild]

The 2014 Spurs are the most team-oriented squad in NBA history, the most unique team of all-time and one of the 3 best overall teams since the 80s..they don't rely entirely on individual play, it's an antiquated concept IMO, and part of reaching that goal was because they diverted from the Parker-Duncan 2-man game..

Agree, but the "team-oriented squad" wasn't the original plan of Pop, that was more a direct consequence of Tony's injuries and fatigue.
For better or worse, we'll see Tony as the primary option and all offensive system structured around him again next season.

If that happens, maybe I'll have to take antidepressants during the regular season. Not because of Parker, just because the Spurs become a predictable team of isos and standing around with that.

[Kidd K]

So we win championships without Robinson, Manu, Tony... Boris

You think if Boris did not play we win this year?

TEAM

That's pretty much the definition of a strawman.

I clearly said no one has ever carried us to a le, not that nobody besides him ever made a difference.

[TheGreatYacht]

4 les with him starting, 0 les as "Parker's team"

they won in 2007, and they should've won in 2013 with him leading the team the whole season up until 28 seconds in Game 6... Who's team was it this year? Because it sure as wasn't Kawhi's team who was mediocre the whole postseason until Game 3 of the finals

[TheGreatYacht]

OP is so re ed, he can't even name the le properly *sigh*

le: "Tony and Tony show"
Thread: "...Tony pick and roll with Timmy..."

Put the needle down before you post bra

[KL2]

they won in 2007, and they should've won in 2013 with him leading the team the whole season up until 28 seconds in Game 6... Who's team was it this year? Because it sure as wasn't Kawhi's team who was mediocre the whole postseason until Game 3 of the finals

He wasn't the true MVP in 07, it was obviously TD. Parker rarely plays defense, there is always someone to bail him out whether it's Bowen Green or Leonard, I see the selective memory of him getting out played by Dragic/Nash/WB/Kidd/Conley/etc. and even Chalmers in the finals lmao.

Check Leonard's finals stats last year and compare them to TP's lmao. Leonard doesn't have the luxury of running off multiple screens, or even plays called for him, which hurts him even more when he's got 2 centers clogging the paint. Parker has all the help in the world and hasn't lead this team to . He'll help win you playoff games but he'll never lead a team to a championship.

[TheGreatYacht]

He wasn't the true MVP in 07, it was obviously TD. Parker rarely plays defense, there is always someone to bail him out whether it's Bowen Green or Leonard, I see the selective memory of him getting out played by Dragic/Nash/WB/Kidd/Conley/etc. and even Chalmers in the finals lmao.

Check Leonard's finals stats last year and compare them to TP's lmao. Leonard doesn't have the luxury of running off multiple screens, or even plays called for him, which hurts him even more when he's got 2 centers clogging the paint. Parker has all the help in the world and hasn't lead this team to . He'll help win you playoff games but he'll never lead a team to a championship.

Parker doesn't play defense? I remember him stopping Lillard, Paul, & Billups from going off. I also have a selective memory of Kawhi getting outplayed by Durant, Carter, Barnes, Thompson, Batum & Lebron lmao.

Oh okay so you value 3 games more than a whole body of work in the 2013 playoffs when Manu choked Parker's le all away, nice logic.
You're acting like Kawhi deserves a medal for letting Lebron take jumpers last year Parker created more points for the team by forcing the Heat to double on all picks and giving Green all the open 3's in the world. If you want to talk ball hog, when Kawhi isn't differing to his teammates, I don't remember him ever creating for anyone, tbh. Btw Parker struggled this year because he chose to win gold for his country. Kawhi knows it would happen to him too

[KL2]

Parker doesn't play defense? I remember him stopping Lillard, Paul, & Billups from going off. I also have a selective memory of Kawhi getting outplayed by Durant, Carter, Barnes, Thompson, Batum & Lebron lmao.

Oh okay so you value 3 games more than a whole body of work in the 2013 playoffs when Manu choked Parker's le all away, nice logic.
You're acting like Kawhi deserves a medal for letting Lebron take jumpers last year Parker created more points for the team by forcing the Heat to double on all picks and giving Green all the open 3's in the world. If you want to talk ball hog, when Kawhi isn't differing to his teammates, I don't remember him ever creating for anyone, tbh. Btw Parker struggled this year because he chose to win gold for his country. Kawhi knows it would happen to him too

Not really, it has always been a combo of Green/Leonard on CP3 and pretty much whoever else. The only guy I saw him play d on these playoffs was Lillard who pretty much choked. Leonard rarely guarded Batum, he was on Matthews most of the series, he locked Thompson down after Pop finally made the proper adjustments of Green on Curry and KL on Thompson.

Leonard does have play making ability, he just never gets the ball. Honestly, what do you want him to do? Parker gets like 3 screens to free him up, Leonard is lucky if he gets just ONE. He doesn't get any plays called for him and Pop barely figured out that 2 centers clogging the paint severely limits his game these finals (took long enough).

Leonard put up 15 and 10 with fantastic defense, I don't know if you've realized this yet but there is no stopping Lebron, this isn't the same guy from the 07 Finals. You can only contest his shots (which Leonard did), deny him the ball (which Leonard did), and make the game for him.

32-10 with Leonard to start off the season, 8-6 without him, 1st game backhe leads them to a historic 19 game ws, but I'm sure it was all a coincidence, I mean this is "Parker's team"

and no im not a Manu rider like others on this board.

[TheGreatYacht]

Not really, it has always been a combo of Green/Leonard on CP3 and pretty much whoever else. The only guy I saw him play d on these playoffs was Lillard who pretty much choked. Leonard rarely guarded Batum, he was on Matthews most of the series, he locked Thompson down after Pop finally made the proper adjustments of Green on Curry and KL on Thompson.

Leonard does have play making ability, he just never gets the ball. Honestly, what do you want him to do? Parker gets like 3 screens to free him up, Leonard is lucky if he gets just ONE. He doesn't get any plays called for him and Pop barely figured out that 2 centers clogging the paint severely limits his game these finals (took long enough).

Leonard put up 15 and 10 with fantastic defense, I don't know if you've realized this yet but there is no stopping Lebron, this isn't the same guy from the 07 Finals. You can only contest his shots (which Leonard did), deny him the ball (which Leonard did), and make the game for him.

32-10 with Leonard to start off the season, 8-6 without him, 1st game backhe leads them to a historic 19 game ws, but I'm sure it was all a coincidence, I mean this is "Parker's team"

and no im not a Manu rider like others on this board.

I can't disagree with any of the points you brought up. Although Parker said Kawhi was supposed to be the guy this finals and I never saw Parker take shots away from him. He knew he wasn't 100% and didint force anything like he did in games 6 & 7 last year. Idk we'll see if Parker bounces back, this is a contract year, so I expect 2013 Parker.