Call me crazy but Kawhi and Danny are the two most important Duo's in the team..

[hitmantb]

They are without any question, the best overall wings Spurs ever had, would be insane if Duncan had these guys earlier in his career. Their growth from 2012 (intimidated by OKC's sheer talent) to 2014 (stepped up and matched Wade/LeBron) was the difference.

Spurs playoff success in Duncan era has always been about the quality of the wings.

[diego]

Duncan and manu, even at their age, are the most important duo and once they retire the spurs will be a middle of the pack pretender, regardless of who the FO manages to replace them with. Maybe after a season or two pop can retool his system to the new personnel, but the current system won't produce the same results without them (1-2 seed, wcf or better). And before you start with 09-11, first those teams despite playoff failure were still 1-2 seed, but remember also the pieces of they were playing with (rj, bogans, rmj, Blair, corpses of Thomas and mcdyess, ian mahinmi, george hill, RJ). In a couple years time will tell.

[dunkman]

1. Duncan - Kawhi
2. Manu - Parker
3. Splitter - Diaw
4. Green - Patty

[Captivus]

Someone is gonna bump this thread in about a year and a half.

[spurraider21]

Kawhi and Danny are one duo, not two.

[Splits]

Is this block on BronBron from 2013 or 2014 finals?

Game 4 2014 Finals

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/iNeJM...J/LeBron+James

[Captivus]

I have a doubt:
Can 2 players be the most important duos?

I mean...I would assume you need 4 players in order to have the "two most important duos"? Right?
Or does that work in english?

[marinoman]

I say Kawhi then Tim. If they play poor or are injured we're in trouble. If parker struggles, Mills is there, and im a big Joseph supporter as well. If Green plays like , ie game 5 of the finals, its not a killer, neither is manu when he struggles.
Best player on the team id say Parker with Kawhi closing in, but most valuable to our team, for me it's easily kawhii and tim

[DJR210]

if danny ever learns to dribble

game 3 against Miami he was a ing changed man tbh

[DJR210]

I have a doubt:
Can 2 players be the most important duos?

I mean...I would assume you need 4 players in order to have the "two most important duos"? Right?
Or does that work in english?

I was thinking the same thing

apalisoc_9 holding true to my assessment as being ST's equivalent to Jeff Ayers

[Nathan89]

I rather the Spurs be without Green for the playoffs than without Duncan.

[Prose]

I'm one of the few guys who still argues Kawhi/Danny/Tiago are just as valuable as Tony/Manu/Tim.. but c'mon, Spurs would be straight up ed without Duncan.

exactly tim is the anchor and the glue that holds the whole puzzle together. with tim protecting the rim it allows danny and kawhi to be more aggressive on the perimeter.

[FireMicoHalili]

it's 2014 not 2010.

Sorry man I missed your point, hope you'd expound on that. Or not, sorry if your snark didn't work.

[cd021]

its like he was rope a doping everyone in to thinking he couldn't dribble. He impressed me as much as Kawhi did in game 3.

[BanditHiro]

yep it is no coincidence that the two closes games in the Finals was because both Green and Kawhi were in foul trouble.

[therealtruth]

There wasn't a single matchup the Heat really had the advantage at. DG stopped a DWade that looked pretty good in the ECF.

Getting back to your point about why KL and DG are so important. It really helps to have length on the wings. Jordan/Pippen were long defenders. It makes it difficult for the other team to run their offense when you can disrupt them with that length. With TD/Splitter in the paint there isn't much space left on the court.

[spurraider21]

that left handed floater by Green to start the 4th. thats when the game was over

[cd021]

spurs record without lenonard is .500 enough said

several of those games were without Green, Splitter, Ginobili or Parker so thats a bit overrated.

[Raven]

Sorry man I missed your point, hope you'd expound on that. Or not, sorry if your snark didn't work.

Well, they already posted some videos...

[KL2]

Agreed, they are very important, they ARE the perimeter defense on this team. Parker rarely has to guard opposing PG's because of Green, while Leonard handles the great SF's such as KD/LBJ, and can rebound even amongst bigs.

i think the biggest thing KL brings to this team his his toughness and energy, after he ing grilled Ibaka he sort of destroyed that "beast" in the paint, others followed suit and attacked him. SA has a history of getting owned by shot blockers such as Ibaka, they go into pussy mode and settle for low % jumpers. I remember the days when Bynum used to make everyone in SA quit.

[wildchild]

Green and Leonard are the best defensive duo in the NBA.
The Spurs have dramatically improved since 2008 and these two guys are the main reason for the vast improvement.

Like Woj said "Leonard is the reason the Spurs are chasing championships again. He changed everything for the Spurs. He gave them size and strength and athleticism to partner with his calculating, cunning basketball mind. Eventually, he gave them a startling offensive game to go with his stifling defense. Against Oklahoma City and Miami, he gave them a defender for Kevin Durant and LeBron James. Yes, Kawhi Leonard gave the Spurs a chance again"
And I would like to add Green to the equation.

[Cklbmk]

Tim Duncan needs to take after Kevin Willis and come back for every playoff run

[Cklbmk]

Kawhi is part of the big 3. Parker is part of the other 4... Parker...Splitter.. Diaw...Green

[barbacoataco]

I think Parker is way underrated on this board. He still led the Spurs in scoring in the playoffs even though he was hurt. His ability to drive and break down defenses is what makes the Spurs go.

Leonard is awesome but he had some iffy moments in the playoffs too. In the OKC series he was pretty meh on the offensive end. In that series it was Manu who really carried the team at times. The spurs have so many weapons no reason to always be comparing them.

[Cklbmk]

I think Parker is way underrated on this board. He still led the Spurs in scoring in the playoffs even though he was hurt. His ability to drive and break down defenses is what makes the Spurs go.

Leonard is awesome but he had some iffy moments in the playoffs too. In the OKC series he was pretty meh on the offensive end. In that series it was Manu who really carried the team at times. The spurs have so many weapons no reason to always be comparing them.

Theres a reason the vegas odds were the same for the Spurs with tony playing and without tony playing. He's clearly not important to success.

He needs to be traded for someone relevant before his value plummets due to old age