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Pretty sure a team can't re-sign a waived player until their original contract ends, so we'd have to wait until next summer to bring him back at which point we'd just use cap space.
Sure, I am just doubting the realism of that. It's clearly a threat in the sense it could happen, but I can't think of any players in Kawhi's situation that turn down a massive guaranteed pay raise for 4 years, just for the chance that their could be more money in shorter time if the cap goes up.
Pretty sure a team can't re-sign a waived player until their original contract ends, so we'd have to wait until next summer to bring him back at which point we'd just use cap space.
ah, i was inaccurate with the 25% (thought it was based on his 14-15 salary) but i knew the raises were based on the first year of the extension
I don't know if that's true. The team waived Green and re-signed him in the same year back in 2010-2011. It wasn't a 10-day thing, either.
I'm only making the point that there are potential reasons, from the Spurs perspective, for giving him a max extension. I think we've gotten a little lazy with an assumption that there are no reasons for the Spurs to do so.
My biggest thing is not the fear of Kawhi getting more money in a 5th year down the road (or even 2 years down the road in Mel's scenario), it's that Kawhi being a "max" player is far from a guaranteed thing. Sure, other guys (Hayward/Parsons) are getting big deals; while that sets the market price it certainly doesn't guarantee success.
With the question marks and rules in place, I just don't see a reason to pay the 5 year extension ever unless it's Lebron/Durant/Duncan type players. Could come back to bite you, but in the event that is true, Kawhi has earned the money then and you can still pay him.
45 mil is a bit much for a declining PG that's a poor playoff performer
Hmmm, I imagine the first time he was signed it was on an guaranteed contract? I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure if this loophole existed teams would have used it before.
Are you talking about Parker or Kawhi? spursraider21 is right about Parker, his 15-16 salary in an extension is determined by his 14-15 salary, it seems like you're describing Kawhi?
The reasons why teams don't use it, is because it's not practical like Chinook said. Any player worth using it, would be swooped up off of waivers.
I think it doesn't get used because any player who's both good enough to get the full MLE but also on a small enough deal where waiving him and eating his salary makes sense would be a player who'd be claimed pretty quickly.
EDIT: Got DPG'd.
It is, and I'm willing to bet that I'm right.
Correct. TP's extension, at YR1 of the extension is this year's salary (12.5M) times the max raise (7.5%). So 12.5M x 7.5% = 13.437M in YR1 of the extension.
Not really. As Chinook explained, this scenario is extremely unlikely because it depends on Green passing through waivers. It hasn't been tried because it almost certainly would fail.
I can't wait to see Parker on the Spurs in 2016 playing without "8" giving up possessions. I expect an MVP caliber season next year
3y/43m starting at 13.4m. Great deal !
Glad to have Parker a few more years.
Yes. I meant Kawhi. spurraider21 is certainly correct if he was talking about Parker. It's still hard to me to believe Tony has an extension, since we've pretty much only talked about Leonard for months.
yeah i was talkin about parker
I apologize, bro.
no need, i dont get upset. to a degree, i enjoy being corrected
Spurs overpaid him too... Holy s#it
Edit: Nevermind
Last edited by Richie; 08-01-2014 at 02:27 PM.
what do you mean "too"
who is overpaid?
This isn't the Splitter and Manu thread.. What do you mean overpaid?
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