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    Well to be fair 2013 Parker forced teams to defend 2014 Parker heavily giving room to other guys... And he still torched the Blazers and the Mavs in game 7 and was overall very consistent.
    I think he was just genuinely fatigued and exhausted from the 2013 run of basketball, tbh..his legs looked finished all year, Pop even had to sit him out for a few weeks in the regular season..

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    Such a re ed list, starting with Davis already being ranked third without having done much yet, followed by Choke Paul and George being overrated, and Westbrook, Love, and Curry being ranked over Blake....
    6 to 10 are exchangeable.
    Griffin's improvement has surprised me nicely but he still has too many flaws fro me to consider him a top 5 player in the league. There's no reason for him with his athleticism and minutes played to average less than 10 rebounds per game, he doesn't present much of a defensive presence either and his jumper while improved is still streaky as and when that fails he reverts to his monkeyball older self.

    I used to think he was going to be a bust but he seems to have the mental for ude to be a great player that's why I think he will keep improving but he still has too many holes in his game to place him as top 5 player, imho.

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    It still amazes me that people try to rank guys who play completely different positions in the NBA (who is better, Howard or Paul?). It's like deciding if Romo, Bryant or Tyron Smith is the best player on the Cowboys. (Thank goodness the defense is atrocious so they'll have another 8-8 season at best).

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    You're bringing a lot of subjective bull to the conversation. Do you really think the Spurs wouldn't have won it all replacing CP3 with Tony? The same Tony that didn't play in the closeout games against Portland and OKC and that went scoreless in the closeout against Miami till we were 15 or so pts ahead in the 4th quarter? Really?
    No, not subjective. Qualitative. Basketball is a human activity with the physical end of putting the ball in the hoop. You can quantify certain actions but the reality is that there is a nearly infinite amount of things you can quantify or measure on a court because the sport involves the interactive and synchronized movement of five players on each team at every single moment.

    And so consequently, this is why Advanced Stats, while interesting, are not nearly as useful as believed. The simpler ones like plus/minus are useful for judging lineups. But the more complicated ones treat historical facts (points/rebounds etc.) as if they represent laws that will govern all future performance.

    I guarantee Pop judges and values players based on a qualitative assessment, experience and intuition, of which stats are only a piece (a major piece to be sure). As someone who has followed the Spurs forever and listens carefully to Pop and his interviews, I am sure Pop looks primarily at a player's decision making and command of key fundamentals in assessing a player.

    Going back to CP3, there is also a very real chance he wouldn't even be coachable by Pop, instead becoming a diva and remaining a ball-dominant guard.

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    The only thing you can fault him with is being a PG... It's extremely hard to carry a (badly coached) team as a PG....
    I'm a fan of Curry's game, I think he'll look better in a new system, but ya, I'd rather have a PG as my #2 or 3 rather than my main guy, which has produced much better results, obviously..

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    Griffin's improvement has surprised me nicely but he still has too many flaws fro me to consider him a top 5 player in the league. There's no reason for him with his athleticism and minutes played to average less than 10 rebounds per game, he doesn't present much of a defensive presence either and his jumper while improved is still streaky as and when that fails he reverts to his monkeyball older self.

    I used to think he was going to be a bust but he seems to have the mental for ude to be a great player that's why I think he will keep improving but he still has too many holes in his game to place him as top 5 player, imho.
    If only Griffin played next to Tony Parker, dude would of at least made the WCF by now.

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    I don't think this dude watches basketball, tbh.
    Why watch games when you can just go the "4 rings got" route and win every discussion, right?

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    If only Griffin played next to Tony Parker, dude would of at least made the WCF by now.
    Nah, Enrique would get jealous and deny him the ball like he does with Kawhi

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    Why watch games when you can just go the "4 rings got" route and win every discussion, right?


    What? Can't concentrate on your question with all this winning around me.

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    Nah, Enrique would get jealous and deny him the ball like he does with Kawhi
    Yeah, Parker was being a huge got with Kawhi for awhile there. He did better in the Finals though. Enrique did show up once or twice though.

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    Nah, Enrique would get jealous and deny him the ball like he does with Kawhi
    Would like to see your non-re ed list, tbh.

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    Nice, I got him posting pics now. Sorry guys.

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    Hey, post one of Chris Paul in his WCF gear.

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    May be or may not be overrated but I like seeing Steph Curry play and I like to use the Warriors in 2k.

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    Hey, post one of Chris Paul in his WCF gear.

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    Yeah, and he wouldn't change his style one bit playing on this team under Pop.

    Sorry, I forgot to blue that.
    His style of play is part of what makes him good. No way to project that he'd be able to be effective, and especially willing. It's like people thinking Manu could have played Green's role if he had focused on it. Being better in general doesn't make you better at playing any role.

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    Even just using stats and throwing out rings in no way is CP3 significantly better than Parker. Considering Parker is nowhere near as good at shooting the 3. Given Parkers will to win and know how I'd give Parker the nod as who I would want running the point for my team. I don't remember what record he broke or what he accomplished a couple of seasons ago but Parkers shooting % was unheard of for a player of his size. Maybe someone can help me out here.

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    if anyone is overrated its klay thompson
    troof bombs imo

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    Curry is overrated
    Thompson is overrated
    Barnes overrated
    Bogut and Lee always injured
    Iggy career low year
    People think Draymond Green is a good NBA player...

    Top 5 defense...

    and they fired their coach to hire a first-timer.

    Either ST is dead wrong about the players being overrated or they are dead wrong about Mark Jackson.

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    How about that Jackson was a very good defensive coach with no concept of modern offensive scheme, and that the Warriors have very strong defensive players who happen to be overrated offensively?

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    His style of play is part of what makes him good. No way to project that he'd be able to be effective, and especially willing. It's like people thinking Manu could have played Green's role if he had focused on it. Being better in general doesn't make you better at playing any role.
    Paul is a better natural PG than Tony imo. Tony is known for going into hero mode occasionally while Paul is known for the complete opposite (disappearing).

    He dominates the ball on his current team but I think once he became immersed in the Spurs culture he'd fit in seamlessly into the Spurs way tbh.

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    1-Lebron
    2-Durant
    3-Davis
    4-Paul
    5-Howard
    6-George
    7-Westbrook
    8-Love
    9-Curry
    10-Griffin
    Leonard is better than George? Which George are you talking about? You must mean George Hill? If you're talking about who I think you're talking about then you're smoking something strong.
    ???

    hes done tbh

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