Life improves over time on almost every aspect possible, basketball is no exception.
The post game has diminished due to a lot of reasons, including the advent of zone defense, the "Mark Jackson rule" (5 secs back to the basket), the improved 3 point shot accuracy... the Spurs were probably one of the most affected by this in the worst way, but they adapted their game to it.
I actually like 90's basketball, but it's a very different game from today.
Yeah I get what you are saying. Those teams you pointed out that won didn't rely on athleticism. Too many teams that are expected to compete rely too much on Athleticism and 3pt shooting rather than defense and ball movement. Only the Spurs can be pointed out as the team who consistently wins with ball movement and defense.
The best center in the game lacks a post game and can't shoot free throws. The top PFs outside of Duncan are so bad on defense that they need a defensive center next to them to hide their deficiencies. The second best SF can barely shoot over 40%. The best SG doesn't attempt to play defense. And Kyrie Irving is getting paid like a top PG for being a stat whoring chucker. Basic fundamentals.
These guys cost their teams wins because they don't care to improve enough whether it be play defense, shoot free throws, pass the ball, or learn to play in the post.
That's why they haven't won anything... and back in the day, you still had guys that were "stars" and couldn't defend for ( o Barkley), but having one or two extremely solid iso guys was good enough to make you contender.
Plus Dwight has other problems, that have a lot more to do with his mental approach to everything, not just the game.
GP would make CP3 cry like a little
That already happens when he doesn't get the whistle
But... But... CP3 and today's players are tougher
djohn2008, who is the second best SF that can barely shoot 40 percent?
Barkley was a rebounding machine
Everyone has a different standard for entertainment. If I wanted to watch 10 guys parade around the court taking turns dunking/chucking 3's and dancing, then I would personally go to the local Gym.
When I tune into compe ive sports, I want physical pounding & mental mind games. This simply does not exist in the current NBA. The players are butt buddies and over-paid, the #1 goal each and every night is staying healthy.
This is your racism speaking, let's be honest, it's slave talk..
You want to see Black men fighting each other and hurting each other, rather than being friends on the court..their smiles and camaraderie further reminds you that they are getting paid a ton of money to play a fun sport that they love..
The 90s was mostly coons that abused each other for the entertainment of the White man, tbh..it's the primary reason that White viewers loved the NBA in the 90s..
Why would I waste my time watching un-educated wanna be thugs make millions of dollars to bounce a ball? The same goes for the NFL. I preferred when the players were bashing their brains in.
They are all over-paid. Most are un-educated idiots. Life is more important than sports
That's cool with me, everybody has their own reasons for watching sports..
I don't have a problem with your view, I just wanted you to confirm the real reason you preferred the 90s..
I prefer the 90's to the current game like every previous player & fan. It was better. The players today are weaker. How would a "Dream Team" in 2014 compare to the 1992 squad? Only James & maybe Durant would crack the 90's team.That's cool with me, everybody has their own reasons for watching sports..
I don't have a problem with your view, I just wanted you to confirm the real reason you preferred the 90s
There are less Superstars and unhealthy amount of them on the same team. Makes for 95% (including Playoffs) of the NBA season pointless
Last edited by Infinite_limit; 09-22-2014 at 12:58 PM.
ing re , stick to trolling
oh wait
tbh can't you say the exact same about yourself, just subs ute pussyball with goonball?
Goonball isn't an insult, as virtually all 90s players and fans pride themselves on the "physicality" and "goonery" of their era(evident in this thread
It's a source of pride for them..
this argument is just a double edged sword...
offensive players today would have to adjust to a brand of game where physical defense was allowed. guys like Harden and Durant would have to abandon about 40% of their plan of attack.
at the same time, the "goons" and defensive players of the older eras would foul out in 8 minutes if they palyed in today's game. the "great" defenders like bill laimbeer wouldn't be able to stay on the floor unless they adjusted
goonball is implying a lack of skill though. not saying its accurate or inaccurate, but it's definitely an insultGoonball isn't an insult, as virtually all 90s players and fans pride themselves on the "physicality" and "goonery" of their era(evident in this thread
It's a source of pride for them..
Great point. Shooting was also better especially in 80's but even in early 90's ... which would help combat some of the complex defenses people that are found of the m odern era. It's funny that the Spurs beat the best practiconers of modern defensive schemes by using a style reminiscent of the ball movement of the mid 80's Celts.
Imho great players are great players. Jerry West for example may have trouble defending Harden or Beal but they also cant shoot as good as him either ...Maybe Wrest doesnt get off his shot as easy as he did in the 60's but my guess he still scores at a high rate. I think guys like Alex English, Adriam dantley woudl struggle but the the all-time greats would transcend eras ...
So other than the Spurs, which contending team right now actually run team oriented offense instead of ISO ball?
OKC - ISO Ball
Heat - Mostly ISO Ball
Golden State - ISO Ball
Rockets - ISO Ball + FTs
Clippers - ISO Ball + some pick and rolls
Indiana - Doesn't even play offense
Chicago - Even worse than Indiana
I am struggling to see this mythical great era of movement oriented offense in the league right now, when only one single contending team is playing it.
Whereas in the 90s, the Sonics had some semblance of ball movement. Suns were fast faced, but mostly iso ball with Barkley and Johnson, Bulls had the triangle that usually ended up with Jordan ISOing, Spurs played force pass to a triple teamed Robinson while Johnson and Del Negro are wide opened offense, Jazz was pick and roll, Knicks was thug ball at it's best, Rockets was Hakeem and out. Yes, none of them had the fluidity of Spurs ball, but Spurs ball really isn't the norm.
86 Celtics and 77 Blazers and early 70s Knicks were the exceptions rather than the rule.
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