This is not true. In the second half of last season, Parker, a starter, would not let him defer. he would repost and otherwise force feed him the ball. Duncan was the same. its the preseason and they are polishing their game and not trying to exploit mismatches.
Never with him ball hogging.
It's not like the Spurs have won anything with Parker.
It's been that way for the past few years, people wonder how the Spurs magically turn on their offense, when the truth is it's simply guys sharing the ball more. The big 3 do ball hog at times, and it all starts with Parker. Dribble dribble dribble, penetrate, see shot blocker, pass out to TD/Manu (ball only touches their hands cause they only trust each other), end up with a low % jump shot, which they sometimes do make because they're so good. Meanwhile Leonard is getting ignored on a post up, the ball is moving but only touching 3 guys hands, everybody else isn't really involved. Then people wonder, why isn't SA blowing them out? It happens time and time again lol, people don't see it, even during games, practically every 3rd quarter collapse is due to this.
Can the Spurs win games like that? Yes. A championship? No, they never have. What do they look like playing this ball? Watch the Dallas series, then watch the rest of the playoffs when TP was injured. Stats always look good on paper, but they never show how a player affected the flow of the offense. Numerous examples of this ranging from Kobe to George.
The more Parker becomes a distributor the better the Spurs are, the problem is he's not very good at it and shows obvious bias against Leonard. He went what, 40 games without double digit assists this year? That's with a stacked offense and being the primary ball handler being set up for success, inexcusable.
The funny thing is Duncan knows this is going on and has been involved in this.
I'll never forget the time where TP ignored Leonard on a post play and Duncan got frustrated, that's when I finally knew something was up. Leonard had prime post position for something like 10 seconds against a guard, the entire time Parker was doing his dribble BS, 0 ball movement, he was clearly ignoring Leonard.
TD saw the match up the entire time and was waiting for TP to get him the ball (I think he was even pointing out the mismatch), instead Parker passed to TD at the top of the key. Duncan then immediately passed to KY and he scored, Duncan had this angry look on his face after that like "pass him the ing ball TP!". I wish I had the video but I forget which game it was.
you must all be right, parker is terrible. you should send letters to pop who made him a starter at19 , to all those coaches who selected him 6 times as an all stars, to all those journalist and coaches who gave him all those awards, to rc who renew is contract for 3 more years and to those 4 larry o'brien trophy he won, they are so blind an incompetent they still didn't realise after 13 years that tony is bad as ..
you should apply to spurs staff and bring them all that science off the game you got.
crofl
Kawhi lovers...
Tony Parker - 22pts, 7reb, 7ast, 1TO, 7-12fg
Manu Turnobili - 12pts, 7reb, 4ast, 4TO, 2-7fg
ing Manu would rather give Andrew Goudelock the ball instead of his teammates smfh
Well, I don't interpret his post -or the thread- in this way...we all know Tony is one of the best PG in the league.
The people here don't question Parker, just question why Parker doesn't pass the ball to Leonard when he's wide open or when he has a favorable matchup. They ask if it is an intentional thing or just is a Tony's game weakness.
Some guys chose the Parker's ego option, they said it's a chemistry issue based on games observations, body language, low % assists Parker to Leonard...
Other guys -like me- think the court vision, passing skills, aren't Tony strengths.
IMO the assists/playmaker issue is one of the reasons why the media and other fans don't give Parker the credit he deserves.
Obviously, Pop plays big role in these situations, these things will keep happening until he finds ways to involve Leonard offensively more.
Last edited by wildchild; 10-11-2014 at 04:07 PM.
I don't know what Manu or you would rather...but I certainly would have preferred that Beli played better defense on Goudelock.
leonard will be more involve in the offense when pop will decide to run more system for him, that won't necessary result in more assist from parker, on e base of the spurs system is the extra pass, tony is often antepenultimate assist , in spurs system tony's role is to initiate the play,penetrate most of the time and kick the ball out or find a big close to the basket,. i don't think tony decide not to pass the ball to kawhi that bull is hilarious even at 31 the man does and run the play pop decide to run.
Leonard is good, really good and i believe even really really good but thos leonard balls sucker must realize one thing is not duncan at least not yet, and the context is not the same that when duncan enter the spurs team. the spurs are run by the big 3 for more than ten years you have to respect that, and if they were realy honest they 'll realize that the kid got a fair share of the action and that the spurs game is a lot more balance and open today than during the early days of the big three.
So just wait, the time when kawhi will be the face of the franchise is 2 or 3years away max.
Just stop hating on parker or ginobili those dude gave more than 10 years to your team and bring you 4 les , so just enjoy as much as you can until it stop cause it won't last for ever and the 10years after their retirement are not guarantee as bright as the past 10 you're not even sure you'll see such beautifull basket ever again.
take a good look at those spurs, take a good look at tim, manu, tony think well at those 15years, you 'll need those souvenirs, those moment of joy and perfection 10years from now when the spurs won't have a wining record anymore.
professional sport are cyclical the perfection and greatness won't last for ever so instead of using your energy on hating on your player use it to remember this greatness, you 'll be proud to tell to your grand children the story of this legendary team, his coach and the big three.
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I understand what you say but nobody who wants Kawhi offensive development is rush to bury the Big 3.
Most of fans know Tony and Kawhi will carry the team when Tim and Manu are gone. The Spurs don't have a great history luring stars FA, they aren't willing to pay tax, and people don't want to believe the team is done without Tim, so they want Parker and Leonard look comfortable playing together and be a great scoring pair in the league.
If people expect Kawhi to improve his game to all star level, get more touches, play more minutes, it doesn't mean they hate Tony/Manu or Pop, just means they think Leonard's improvement is the Spurs best chance to continue being a compe ive team after Duncan Era.
Even with the Big 3 still playing, Leonard needs to increase his role because you can't develop a player in one only day, the next day after Tim/Manu retirements.
I've been a Spurs fan since I was born, it's a family thing, my dad, uncle, cousins (I registered here when Kawhi was 15 years old and never dreamed to play in SA) so I'm not Spurs fan for Leonard, but I celebrate he attracted new fans and I welcome these guys.
The analysis of one game's situation doesn't mean you don't appreciate the team's history, or stop to show your loyalty/love for the team.
Under this criteria to post, nobody could say nothing about plays, players, coaches, because the criticism would be immediately confused with hate.
I expect we can realize the difference between the two things.
great post
i completly agree with that, i don't say you can't make critics on spurs.
i just don't get the point on saying parker doesn't like kawhi, that he makes sure kawhi don't get the ball on purpose cause is jealous. i just don't understand that.
i was just sayin the realationship parker-kawhi will grow with pop designing more plays for kawhi.
during parker debut all the play run by SA were going through duncan so basicaly tony was almost exclusively giving the ball to tim, does that means parker hated the 3 other player on the floor.
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