NBA: Embarrassing exits from the NBA..

[phoenix219]

I look at MJ's wizard days about like I look at Foreman's return to boxing. They are compe ors, don't know when to quit, and it does nothing to tarnish their greatness. If anything, it says they want to play whether or not they are dominant. That tells me they are compe ors at heart. Iverson, he just wanted to be a star, couldn't come off the bench. Still, he was such a clown anyhow that it couldn't get any worse for him. TMac, he actually got further in SA than in his entire career prior. Shaq, just too big and too slow. I didn't see him being embarrassed. He always made the teams he was on better than they were without him (except in Phoenix and that square peg meets round hole scenario). Magic has to be the winner. Having to retire because you got ed in the ass by a white volleyball player, then having a gay son who has to be a constant reminder of how God punishes those who escape his earlier attempts to eradicate them, that has to be the worst ever. Phil's was not so bad, at least he lost to an eventual champ and besides, he's not done.

Starbury.... comes to mind though.

In the 3 games that Shaq played in Phoenix, with Alvin Gentry as coach, with the reinstalled, 7SOL offense, and with Amare Stoudemire healthy, the Suns were beyond dominant, putting on an almost unprecedented offensive show. We will never truly know how that experiment would have gone, as the first half of the season was wasted with Terry Porter, and the second half of the season was wasted with Amare shelved. The previous year, we had stubborn MDA, no time to integrate Shaq, and Hill being injured in the playoffs.

[DMC]

In the 3 games that Shaq played in Phoenix, with Alvin Gentry as coach, with the reinstalled, 7SOL offense, and with Amare Stoudemire healthy, the Suns were beyond dominant, putting on an almost unprecedented offensive show. We will never truly know how that experiment would have gone, as the first half of the season was wasted with Terry Porter, and the second half of the season was wasted with Amare shelved. The previous year, we had stubborn MDA, no time to integrate Shaq, and Hill being injured in the playoffs.

So then the rebuttal to my comment is that, for 3 games, the Suns were dominant? Those Suns were dominant before Shaq arrived.

[DMC]

i dont get it. are you suggested somebody in his 20's cant be an elite rebounder?

It's not what he's saying. He's saying elite rebounders are known over the span of their careers as elite rebounders. Having high rebounding numbers for a few seasons doesn't make you an elite rebounder in the "all time" discussion. It makes you elite in the game RIGHT NOW.

btw.. great avatar tbh...

[spurraider21]

btw.. great avatar tbh...

enjoy it for 7 days

[DMC]

Did you lose the bet?

[spurraider21]

Did you lose the bet?

no this was among my winning conditions

[DMC]

no this was among my winning conditions

At least it suits you.

[Jenks]

Play 18 years on one team. Sell out for a ring, and then don't even get the ring. At least Payton was persistent enough with his whoring himself out to contenders that he got his.

[Kidd K]

Twice? When's the other time?

There wasn't another time. You're dealing with a kid who possibly wasn't even alive during that postseason. He sure as wasn't watching basketball at the time. He apparently thinks Hakeem beat DRob in each of the postseasons he won a le in.

Inb4 "I was just fishing for that response" lvl 1 troll fail tactic.