Kawhi: 5 years $80 million per Bill Simmons?

[Mel_13]

Unless something has changed under this CBA, you can match amounts on an offer sheet, and still give the player maximum years and hometown raises.

Once he signs an offer sheet that is submitted by the other team, that becomes his contract. No adjustments to the length of the contract or the amount of the annual raises. Match or don't match, those are the only choices

[TheGreatYacht]

tahahahaha

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi is going to get paid..If they are waiting till next year it would benefit both parties.

Instead of a max extension, he gets a max contract...Instead of 15 Million a year, he gets 20 million a year...

Really happy for Kawhi...

[TheGreatYacht]

Kawhi is going to get paid..If they are waiting till next year it would benefit both parties.

Instead of a max extension, he gets a max contract...Instead of 15 Million a year, he gets 20 million a year...

Really happy for Kawhi...

Keep thinking that. So far, he's a half MLE player

[ElNono]

Kawhi is going to get paid..If they are waiting till next year it would benefit both parties.

Instead of a max extension, he gets a max contract...Instead of 15 Million a year, he gets 20 million a year...

Really happy for Kawhi...

He thought Manu would retire instead of re-signing for a bargain 2/$14m and delivering #5, tbh... so don't sweat it.

[TheGreatYacht]

He thought Manu would retire instead of re-signing for a bargain 2/$14m and delivering #5, tbh... so don't sweat it.

Pretty hard not to think that after his performance and another year older

[ElNono]

Pretty hard not to think that after his performance and another year older

he clearly had enough in the tank, tbh... even if he was playing poorly... i'm glad he came back...

[apalisoc_9]

Manu still have a few spanks in the tank, IMO...He along with Patty, Boris, Kawhi and Danny are really what makes the Spurs Motion offense the way it is.

he is not 28 and forces the issue every now and then.., but I thought he played super smart basketball last year. I expect the same from him this year..

[ElNono]

Manu still have a few spanks in the tank, IMO...He along with Patty, Boris, Kawhi and Danny are really what makes the Spurs Motion offense the way it is.

he is not 28 and forces the issue every now and then.., but I thought he played super smart basketball last year. I expect the same from him this year..

yeah, obviously he's not prime gino anymore... i think he might come back for one more run next season barring any serious injury

[apalisoc_9]

yeah, obviously he's not prime gino anymore... i think he might come back for one more run next season barring any serious injury

Wouldn't mind the spurs paying him 3-6 if he really wants another year...His chemistry with Tiago, Belli, Patty, and Boris is worth Millions..

The foreign guys not Including Parker just love playing together...

It's true what they say in forbes....People who make enough money value Work environment more than anything else...

Manu is a great leader.

[dbreiden83080]

At this point in time his offense is just not worthy of the kind of money we are talking about here. If this means the Spurs lose him well then I guess the Spurs lose him.. Do people really think this is a guy you can build around to win more championships with? Right now he is a really good complementary player and that's it.

[therealtruth]

He's worth the max as long as he can deliver in the playoffs and finals. That's what really matters.

[FkLA]

ST always trying to shortchange players. Still true to this day.

[Chinook]

Kawhi became a no-brainer max guy about three months after this thread last saw posts. However, it was nice to see a thread from before guys like Otto Porter and Allen Crabbe got max deals just for showing up. It's going to take years before we see the market fully settle down. These decent RFA guys are probably going to be the contracts that take longest to right themselves.

[$pursDynasty]

To me it has always seemed that the Spurs allow players to get that $ once (get close to what they would get outside) and then hope that said player gives them the hometown discount after that. So under that scenario I would be fine paying the KingSlayer his money if that is what he wants this contract and then hope/pray he follows the examples of the pillars that have gone before, and give the Spurs the hometown discount.

[south side spur]

I think there's a good chance Kawhi signs for less than the super max only because of the state income tax factor.

[Hoops Czar]

yeah, obviously he's not prime gino anymore... i think he might come back for one more run next season barring any serious injury

Swing and a miss.

[look_at_g_shred]

All you have to do is look at our record with him and then look at the glaring contrast to the record without him. 3 straight WCF appearances and 2 straight Final's appearances. When is the last time that's happened? Oh yeah....never. But...but...but he's not worth it If we lose Kawhi that's it. There is not going to be another player like him that will play for the spurs in the near future. Pay him.

[look_at_g_shred]

Give him what he wants tbh. He's given everything he has to this team since he was drafted.

[baseline bum]

ST always trying to shortchange players. Still true to this day.

Wow I forgot how many people were unwilling to pay Kawhi and just let him walk. He was an obvious max player then and I would have never guessed he'd become an MVP candidate and top 2-3 player in the league.

[dabom]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Kawhi get the full five-year max extension. But I'd be disappointed, since the Spurs would absolutely be bidding against themselves by doing so. I hate max extensions for rookie deals. Absolutely hate them. They make no sense.

[dabom]

Sorry, but this is way too much money. Kawhi has never been the first, second, or even third option on this team. He won Finals MVP, but Ginobili and Diaw had better a PER than him in the Finals. Furthermore, he's just not a superstar. He simply lacks the elite athleticism and ability to dominate the stat sheet night in and night out. Seriously, this is franchise player money. And Kawhi is NOT the franchise. The Big 3 and Pop are.

I like Kawhi, but in the end, he's just a quality role player on a GREAT team. 8-10 million a year would have been perfectly reasonable. 16.5 million a year is not. That kind of money is for the FIRST option Superstar. And anyone calling Kawhi a SUPERstar is just being foolish. I almost want to agree with Durant now. This is getting out of hand. Kawhi has been great for us, but ultimately he's just another glorious piece in the Spurs system. You put Kawhi on the Milwaukee Bucks and things are way different.

I like Kahwi, but IMHO he still needs another year to prove himself worthy of $16mil a year.... hopefully this is just a rumor.... if not, hopefully Kahwi proves himself worthy for that type of money.

Seriously, Kawhi is still extremely shy on the offensive end. He still passes up too many shots and hesitates too much. The Spurs system relieves him of a lot of the offensive burden. Pop even said he never called a single play on offense for Kawhi this year. I believe it. He's not even close to our first option. We'd run a play first for Danny Green at the end of a game instead of Kawhi--and that's no joke.

5 years/80 million is superstar money. Kawhi is not even close to a superstar. Kawhi should get something like 4 years/48 million. Anything more is ridiculous. And the Spurs need to wait until NEXT summer to extend him, so that the open market can properly determine his value before the Spurs do something stupid and give him something like 5 years/80 million.... I guarantee you no team will pay him that kind of money after being in the Spurs system for the last 4 years. That will in turn make it much easier and more cost-effective for us to sign him, and he can sign a reasonable contract fitting of his status as a very quality role player on a great team.

Kawhi is great, but he does not deserve to be the highest paid player on a championship team full of accomplished veterans.

A salary of 12M/yr is fair for all parties involved. And his salary would be slightly less than that of Tony Parker's.

KL was the #3 scorer on the Spurs for the regular season and the playoffs. He's a terrific talent, but is not yet worth the max IMO. The Spurs' system ensures that no single player is indispensable. Also the Spurs' pitch to him will involve a plan of how they can put enough pieces around him to contend for the le. If TP is worth 12.5m per, I think they can agree on something like 14m per year with Kawhi.

Kawhi isn't a max player but he may eventually be one. I doubt the Spurs will give him a max contract at this point.

I love Kawhi, but he is not worth 16 million a year. That's going to handcuff the Spurs' salary cap and he will be struggling to be worth that much.

I realize they want to keep him, but jesus. 16m is a lot.

5/80is way too much, i'll give him a 5/60 deal

I don't think he will get offered a max though. Let's look at a similar player production-wise; Luol Deng. He got 12m a year and his contract was considered toxic trade-wise. Even if Kawhi was 33% more valuable than Luol Deng (which he isn't), wouldn't his contract still be considered ty since Deng's was?

I don't see it happening. Dumb rumors, lame attempt at sabotage. Now it isn't like Leonard can't get better, but getting that good in one year isn't likely. I see your point, but I don't think any team would pay that.

[dabom]

Just 5 pages

I'm pretty sure their are different threads too.

[dabom]

Waaaaaaaaaay too much...

Kawhi 16M
Splitter 10M
Parker 12M
Diaw 5M
Mills 5M
Green 5M

No star wants to come to SA and play for chump change Trade Splitter, and it's perfect

[Chinook]

They didn't give him max extension. And don't before you say anything, there are dozens of posts in this thread talking about the difference between an extension (which they didn't give) and a new contract (which I wanted them to do instead and which they did).