LOL military appreciation nights

[xellos88330]

bull . Repugs/BigOil invaded Iraq for oil, but there was, is no benefit. BigOil, US/UK, aren't getting significant if any oil from Iraq, and even that will probably drop to nothing when Iraq comes apart.

Do you use a car? If you use crude oil in any way, you are benefitting whether you like it or not. So far approximately 100 million barrels of oil have been imported from January to August 2014 according to the EIA.

You can blame Big Oil or republicans all you want, but so long as you use foreign oil (expensive or not) you are benefitting from the product. You are living in a fantasy world, and I suggest you wake up to see how things really are. Bottom line, the military has assisted in procuring oil so you can continue your way of life.

[RD2191]

What about 9/11, and the latest beheadings by ISIS?

9/11 was a terrorist attack, not an invasion of any sort. And even then we were attacked by an idea, you can't kill an idea/belief. We can nuke the entire middle east and we still wouldn't be able to kill it. And what about ISIS ? Some guys got beheaded for being in a place where they were told not to be in or they would be beheaded? Come on man. Don't get me wrong, the military is useful and I do appreciate some things that they do but this thank soldiers for our freedom thing is bull . Soldiers in the past, yes. But not soldiers of today.

[xmas1997]

If you want to throw blame, throw it at the politicians we elect, not the military.

[xmas1997]

9/11 was a terrorist attack, not an invasion of any sort. And even then we were attacked by an idea, you can't kill an idea/belief. We can nuke the entire middle east and we still wouldn't be able to kill it. And what about ISIS ? Some guys got beheaded for being in a place where they were told not to be in or they would be beheaded? Come on man. Don't get me wrong, the military is useful and I do appreciate some things that they do but this thank soldiers for our freedom thing is bull . Soldiers in the past, yes. But not soldiers of today.

I know, but we even had a sick religious fanatic beheading a co-worker in Oklahoma recently.

I don't think she was in the wrong place, her workplace, and I doubt her surviving family is ok with it.

Insanity like that needs to be stamped out in this world, and if we don't do it, no one will IMHO because it will only get worse.

And we are supposed to be living in an enlightened age, not back in barbaric times.

Hopefully when our grandkids gandkids grow up they won't have to deal with sickness like that.

[xellos88330]

I'm not kidding about anything. US soldiers aren't fighting for freedom. Who's threatening my freedom? Is a country invading the US? I can fight and protect myself if that ever happens. I'd probably die fairly quickly but hey, that would really be dying for my freedom.

Why don't other countries invade the US? Iran hates us, but they have done nothing. The USSR hated us, but they did nothing. North Korea can't stand us, but they do nothing. If you take away the military, what is stopping those nations from taking us out? You think that Iraq is only about oil? It is also showing the world that we have a pretty big ing stick to beat them with if they try anything stupid.

The soldiers there are dying for your freedom whether you want to admit it or not.

[RD2191]

No they're not.

[RD2191]

If and when a country ever tries to invade us and US soldiers die trying to stop the invasion then you can say soldiers are dying for our freedom.

[Splits]

"freedom"

US ranks 12th in economic freedom by the Heritage foundation, behind bastions of freedom like Estonia and Chile: http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

US ranks 46th in press freedom by Reporters without Borders behind so many countries there are too many to list: http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php

US ranks 38th in human rights by the CIRI Human Rights Data project: http://www.humanrightsdata.com/p/dat...mentation.html

US people are 17th in "happiness" according to the UN behind, wait for it... MEXICO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_H...-12_surveys.29


I could go on.

The bottom line is that there are many countries with more freedom, much higher quality of life and happier people that spend a fraction of what we spend on military. Basically the American taxpayer is subsidizing all of our allies "defense" when the only actual enemy is a couple 100 crazy people living in caves or roaming the Syrian desert. 1 out of every 5 tax dollars collected goes to "defense". Yet the American people are too stupid and believe the ridiculous propaganda that is spoon fed to them like the happy little denizens the government wants them to be, so they can loot all the money for themselves and their big money friends. It's a ing scam, wake up.

Thanks military/industrial complex!

[RD2191]

http://snarkypenguin.wordpress.com/2...edom-bull /

[xellos88330]

If and when a country ever tries to invade us and US soldiers die trying to stop the invasion then you can say soldiers are dying for our freedom.

Why aren't the countries invading? You aren't answering the question.

[RD2191]

Why aren't the countries invading? You aren't answering the question.

Why would they? For what? We don't need soldiers for freedom. The
We can protect ourselves.

[RD2191]

How is fighting a war in the middle east against religious fanatics protecting my freedom?

[RD2191]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...t_armed_forces

[RD2191]

I don't see anyone invading those tiny ass countries.

[xellos88330]

I don't see anyone invading those tiny ass countries.

Ever wonder who their allies are? Ever wonder what their economic situation is? Ever wonder how limited their natural resources are?

The last tiny country to be invaded was Kuwait. Hmmm.... I wonder why.

[boutons_deux]

Do you use a car? If you use crude oil in any way, you are benefitting whether you like it or not. So far approximately 100 million barrels of oil have been imported from January to August 2014 according to the EIA.

You can blame Big Oil or republicans all you want, but so long as you use foreign oil (expensive or not) you are benefitting from the product. You are living in a fantasy world, and I suggest you wake up to see how things really are. Bottom line, the military has assisted in procuring oil so you can continue your way of life.

USA has imported 100M barrels FROM IRAQ?

If not, then would USA have been able to import 100M barrels WITHOUT invading Iraq?

the Repugs BROKE THE MIDDLE EAST and THEY OWN IT. The US military and US taxpayer got raped by the Repugs.

[xellos88330]

Why would they? For what? We don't need soldiers for freedom. The
We can protect ourselves.

LMAO!!! How do you intend on shooting down a high al ude bomber, or an ICBM for that matter?

Look at all the natural resources the vast US territory contains. Look at how the US has one of the largest areas to grow food. Look at how wealthy the nation is. How did the nation get so wealthy?

You are just being flat out ridiculous now. Nice troll job btw.

[RD2191]

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/11/stop..._our_freedoms/

[RD2191]

LMAO!!! How do you intend on shooting down a high al ude bomber, or an ICBM for that matter?

Look at all the natural resources the vast US territory contains. Look at how the US has one of the largest areas to grow food. Look at how wealthy the nation is. How did the nation get so wealthy?

You are just being flat out ridiculous now. Nice troll job btw.

You're speaking about hypotheticals now. If you wanna thank soldiers fighting for your freedom then go ahead. I won't.

[xmas1997]

How is fighting a war in the middle east against religious fanatics protecting my freedom?

Rob, think about it, we are not "isolationist" anymore.

Our citizens travel all over the world.

While you have a good point about some being stupid by going into countries where they literally put their heads at risk, still I believe we need to wipe out those religious radicals and fanatics in other parts of the world where they have killed innocent Americans who were only over there trying to help make those countries a better place to live.

Many are only over there giving aid to people who are dying or trying to cure diseases or keep them from becoming a world pandemic.

Others are getting killed in bombings in otherwise civilized countries.

Are you saying that Americans cannot go and vacation abroad anymore?

I don't think you are advocating that.

[xellos88330]

USA has imported 100M barrels FROM IRAQ?

If not, then would USA have been able to import 100M barrels WITHOUT invading Iraq?

the Repugs BROKE THE MIDDLE EAST and THEY OWN IT. The US military and US taxpayer got raped by the Repugs.

Yes it was from Iraq.

It is definitely possible to get oil from those nations without having to invade. Then you would have to ask yourself if it is worth the cost. How much would it be per barrel?

[RD2191]

"We need not thank the troops for every breath we take. When we do, we reduce our entire existence as free people to something that only exists at the whim of the U.S. military, and suffocate critical thought about the military and what it’s actually doing in the world."

[RD2191]

You guys are reading to much into this. I just said soldiers aren't fighting for my freedom or any American for that matter. They're not and haven't in a long time.

[xellos88330]

You're speaking about hypotheticals now. If you wanna thank soldiers fighting for your freedom then go ahead. I won't.

I might be speaking with hypotheticals, but it is a of a lot better than them being fact. If the military doesn't exist or isn't as powerful as it is, kiss all we have goodbye.

[RD2191]

"The combination of unanimous, entirely uncritical appreciation for the military, and the irrational belief that we owe gra ude to the troops for virtually everything we cherish in life, up to and including freedom itself, is very dangerous for our intellectual culture. It stifles any potential for rational, coherent discussion on these matters. It makes us, free citizens of a cons utional society, meek and excessively obeisant. During the World Series games, under the hashtag “TroopThanks,” Americans tweeted their appreciation for the troops. One such tweet thanked the troops for allowing us to “live free.” Another offered a stern “reminder” that we are only able to enjoy the World Series “because of those who protect our freedoms every day.” This is, of course, preposterous, but it is hardly a fringe belief. It reflects many decades of highly effective propaganda that has convinced generations of people that there is virtually nothing for which we should not thank the troops."