He's much better than Ayres. Not even close.
the final arbiter is the guy in the white beard on the bench. I thought it was noteworthy that when TD went out, he let Baynes play with the rest of the starters. Pop is giving Baynes more minutes (20 last nite) and the kid is responding well enough to move ahead of both Bonner and Ayers when we need an inside presence. And he is producing.
Not bad, Kid. Keep it up. Start pushing for Tiago's spot and the team will be better for it.
People just running into Baynes picks are a biiig plus. To have to keep running into him gotta be .
If all he did was just set picks and not even run back to play defense, he'd still be better than Errors.
Baynes has definitely improved since the beginning of the season.
I agree that he is better than Ayres in most respects, primarily, as others have noted here, just by being such an enormous body for other teams' defenders to run into.
His rebounding seems to be improving.
His fouls are improving also, and some of the foul calls he gets called on him are because he is a newbie and has no respect from the refs. Remember when Splitter was getting fouls called all the time in the first couple of years (on the relatively rare occasions that Pop let him play at all)? Last year it was a lot fewer. I'm not comparing Baynes to Splitter because Baynes will never have the talent level that Splitter has (you can't teach that), but for he talent that he does have, and for the physical attributes that he brings, he is better than Ayres and is improving. That has to count these days.
I can't help but feel for the guy because he is clearly trying to so hard, and when he makes the bone-headed plays that he does, he is clearly embarrassed and tries to do better. The more he gets to play, the better and more comfortable he gets, imo.
Agree. To many haters here.
Baynes is a serviceable big. Just too bad the Spurs didn't sign him up longer term.
The problem is there is no middle ground on this site Most of us know who baynes is and what his ceiling is. I was calling for him to play over Ayers all last season.
Asking for him to be tougher around the rim does not equal asking him to be the next Tim Duncan, nor does it keep me from seeing and understanding all the good he actually does on the court as a "4th big".
People always go to extremes with categorizing fans so they can feel so much smarter about themselves.
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WHO IS YOUR AVATAR?
It's not ok except when it's Daye or Ayres, it's ok to malign THEM, just not your homie, Aron, right?
Put me on the list of people that don't think Baynes is all that. Glad he came back on the cheap. Better than Ayres in some regards, not others. Better hands, for example. But, of two people most closely interchangeable, it's those two. Baynes a smidge taller and heavier, so if I had to pick one of the two, I would pick Baynes. Not based on any skill, but just a slight win in the genetic lottery that gives him an extra inch or two and 20 pounds. If Ayres was Baynes' size, Baynes may never have gotten any playing time.
No look at the post of TD21. It's all in context. He was looking for an elite player who can play fourth big when in fact there's none. You keep on misunderstanding, I see.
why would i be included here? i recall generally being high on baynes
I understood that perfectly...and it could be said of either Daye or Ayres with regard to your comments about them. Each making less than Baynes, younger than Baynes, etc...and not everyone agrees they are as bad as your maligning of both has been. Pot, kettle. Your affinity for old man Baynes doesn't make him any better than he is.
No.Read my first reply for TD21 in the earlier pages. Sheesh do I have to explain everything?
I know, right? Alas, a lass he doesn't know, just some random at a bar.
That quote stands fine for my point, in conjunction with your constant criticism of Daye and Ayres. The rest of the conversation is not relevant to my point. I think you misunderstood me. And, you're sounding a little uppity, didn't you just chide someone else for looking down their nose at you?
What? I don't expect Daye or Errors to do something significant. I haven't been on their boats from their start. While he's expecting a 4th big to rebound at a high rate and guard top tier bigs. So how is it the same for me?
That tends to happen early in the morning(here now) and when someone refuses to read the whole conversation in a thread.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
SHUN THE NONBELIEVER!!!
Um, yes, you do have high expectations for the 15th guy on the bench. That's the point. You're critical of Daye as if he's NOT the 15th guy on the bench. That's the disconnect. And, I did read the whole thread. Every post. I don't have to argue every point with you, though.
I really don't care about either of those two guys. They're both nothing special. Mostly low-skilled bruisers, which any team needs, but not all that interesting. Daye will cease to be interesting after this year, as well, unless he corrects his current trajectory. All three of them, including Baynes, are expendable next year, if necessary. That's why they were even willing to let him dangle in the wind this off-season. He may be a little better than Ayres, but not much.
I dont expect daye to shoot like mills or for errors to play like cousins. As a fan, I expect daye to atleast hit a in 3 instead of bricking every god damn open look he gets. I expect errors to atleast not up every possible assist since I seem to catch a ball better than him. On the other hand some posters expect Baynes to be an elite rebounder and a prime time big man defender, THEY ARE EXPECTING that from a 4th big.
And Idgaf who cares about who tbh that's beyond the point.
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I do think he's being compensated fairly now, rather than being underpaid like every other member of the Spurs' rotation is. The team should look to upgrade in the off-season, but I wouldn't hate him sticking around for a room-exception deal if the team can use their cap space to bring in two good free agents.
You, like many, exaggerate and hyperbolize.
And you don't know how to comprehend. I don't know how to explain it more so have fun with your ideas
My Baynes!
The fire rises!
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