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    I'm living at the foothold of Alps, we're at the end of November and there hasn't been a second of temps below freezing. Last year has been similar. Cold week in mid-December, rest above or around freezing. And ty case of sleet that knocked out electricity to third of a country. So there you go, mr. Mistaking-Weather-for-Climate.
    Didn't you just do the same thing?

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    Small glacier.

    So, do you have any photos taken between 1938 and 1981?

    Do you have a map like this one to show the extend of the Grinnell Glacier over the past, say, 200 years?


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    Didn't you just do the same thing?
    Take your irony detector for check-up.

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    Didn't you just do the same thing?
    He is pointing out the absurdity of the approach and how it works both ways. He qualified it as invalid so no he didn't do the same thing.

    This should not be hard.

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    Yeah, I know -- it's like playing whack-a-mole with he global climate alarmists. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a similar explanation for the Grinnell Glacier as well. Polar bears going extinct - debunked. Polar caps melting - debunked. Perhaps someone will get around to debunking this one as well. But, truly, it's all getting pretty tiresome, don't you think. I mean, it appears Manny's even given up in here.
    What do straw man mean?

    You spout GWPC rhetoric really well though.

    Manny got tired of going over the same over and over again. Similar to how I talked about how I knew he had discussed expected error and modeling with you in the past. You are willfully ignorant and will ignore what you don't want to hear.

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    Pictures don't like but, people do use picture to lie...

    DECEPTIONS OF THE CLIMATISTAS

    I know this isn't Grinnell Glacier but, since you didn't post the peer-reviewed paper in which this retreating glacier is discussed, I can't draw any conclusions on whether or not the photos are telling the whole story. Does "GlacierHikers.com" have the paper posted along with those photographs?
    And ffs that is a bunch of lawyers writing that in your link.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/about-us

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    And ffs that is a bunch of lawyers writing that in your link.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/about-us
    So, why did the 1951 image get omitted? Where is your image of Grinnell between 1938 and 1981?

    And, the map of the recession of the Glacier Bay glaciers over the past 200 years? Lawyers make that up?

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    First freeze of the fall = Republican global warming thread

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    So, why did the 1951 image get omitted? Where is your image of Grinnell between 1938 and 1981?

    And, the map of the recession of the Glacier Bay glaciers over the past 200 years? Lawyers make that up?
    Because the NYT article they are ing about was not about that glacier specifically. They are ing about the picture that was used.

    It's very similar to ing about an ad hominem and then ignoring the rest of what someone says.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/20/sc...t-glacial.html

    That is the article in question from the NYT.

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    First freeze of the fall = Republican global warming thread
    Actually the first freeze was a couple of weeks ago and I'm not a Republican.

    I just noticed there wasn't a AGW thread on the front page, as used to be usual.

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    Because the NYT article they are ing about was not about that glacier specifically. They are ing about the picture that was used.

    It's very similar to ing about an ad hominem and then ignoring the rest of what someone says.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/20/sc...t-glacial.html

    That is the article in question from the NYT.
    Not ing, just demonstrating the article was misleading.

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    Actually the first freeze was a couple of weeks ago and I'm not a Republican.

    I just noticed there wasn't a AGW thread on the front page, as used to be usual.
    Things change in 2 years. Why did you disappear for 2 years when Obama was reelected? Were you that emotionally effected because your guy lost an election?

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    First freeze of the fall = Republican global warming thread

    MSM does the same thing in the summer.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...port/14230129/

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    Actually the first freeze was a couple of weeks ago and I'm not a Republican.

    I just noticed there wasn't a AGW thread on the front page, as used to be usual.
    When was the last time you voted for a Democratic nominee for president?

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    Yes, the media reports when a month was the fourth hottest in the recorded history of the planet Earth.

    What is your problem with that, Darrin?

    Tell everyone why the fourth hottest month in recorded history is in no way noteworthy.

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    Not ing, just demonstrating the article was misleading.
    You are another that doesn't get what mutually exclusive means much less how to prove it. BTW that means your statement does not disprove mine even if true.

    They don't even discuss the article; they are talking about the picture.

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    Pictures don't like but, people do use picture to lie...

    DECEPTIONS OF THE CLIMATISTAS

    I know this isn't Grinnell Glacier but, since you didn't post the peer-reviewed paper in which this retreating glacier is discussed, I can't draw any conclusions on whether or not the photos are telling the whole story. Does "GlacierHikers.com" have the paper posted along with those photographs?
    Yep.

    Th alarmist community is a chronic offender of unethical deceptions, and we those of us who see it and are skeptical are called the deniers...

    Well, how should anyone with half a brain trust those who deceive?

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    When was the last time you voted for a Democratic nominee for president?
    I don't think I've ever voted Democrat. I usually vote Libertarian, unless there's a chance it'll spoil a race and result in a Democrat getting elected.

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    Yoni, you got WC and Darrin at least!

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    Every time it is used on conjunction with saying mankind is responsible.

    Baseline Bum is another useful idiot for the alarmists for posting it.

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    Yes, the media reports when a month was the fourth hottest in the recorded history of the planet Earth.
    So, tell me -- how long is "recorded history" and have the methods for measuring changed any in that time? Also, did the other three occur after man started warming the planet?

    Oh, and a few other questions that never get answered...

    1) What is the optimal temperature for the planet?

    2) Has it ever been significantly warmer and significantly colder than it is right now?

    3) Is there an IPCC model on temperature with which actual observation agrees?

    Thought of one more...

    4) Are we causing the corollary global climate change on Mars or could there be some other common determinant of climate that affects both planets?

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    I don't think I've ever voted Democrat. I usually vote Libertarian, unless there's a chance it'll spoil a race and result in a Democrat getting elected.
    Your posting here has depended directly on the fortunes of the national Republican Party.

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    So, tell me -- how long is "recorded history" and have the methods for measuring changed any in that time? Also, did the other three occur after man started warming the planet?

    Oh, and a few other questions that never get answered...

    1) What is the optimal temperature for the planet?

    2) Has it ever been significantly warmer and significantly colder than it is right now?

    3) Is there an IPCC model on temperature with which actual observation agrees?

    Thought of one more...

    4) Are we causing the corollary global climate change on Mars or could there be some other common determinant of climate that affects both planets?
    You didn't answer my single question.

    Give it a shot there.

    Tell everyone why the fourth hottest month in recorded history is in no way noteworthy.

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    Yes, the media reports when a month was the fourth hottest in the recorded history of the planet Earth.

    What is your problem with that, Darrin?

    Tell everyone why the fourth hottest month in recorded history is in no way noteworthy.

    4th hottest? Since humans have been recording it (a VERY short period of time, btw). Yes, that's remarkable.

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    4th hottest? Since humans have been recording it (a VERY short period of time, btw). Yes, that's remarkable.
    It's not?

    Why is it not worthy of any mention at all?

    Please explain.

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