12 year old tamir rice shot dead by cleveland police

[Chomag]

It's called having a discussion, you .

My point is its easy to come up with plenty of what ifs outside of a situation.

[Warlord23]

Moral of the story: if you're a rich Nevada rancher who points guns at law enforcement along with your redneck militia buddies after not paying grazing fees, you're hailed as a tea party patriot with fox news as your cheerleader. If you're a less well-off member of society, especially a person of color, your death is justifiable, even if you're 12 and it was a toy gun that you didn't even get around to pointing at the cops.

You people just need to know your role and shut up. This is America, if you don't have money and connections you ain't worth squat.

[hehateme]

Yeah I'm siding with a 12 year old kid who probably didn't have a lot of time to process "Don't pull your gun out, even if it's to show the cop that it's fake." Cops know better. Why the did they pull up so close?

A 12 year old kid knows right from wrong. Your logic is flawed, please insert your foot in your mouth and shut the up.

[The Gemini Method]

Considering anyone that posts on the board was not part of either Ferguson or the Cleveland incident, its all what-ifs. But that's what makes this interesting. Varying opinions on the subject matter and it entertains. At least its not photoshopping people and a glut of ing emoticons.

[spurraider21]

We always removed or colored over any part of the gun that made it look like a toy.

good for you

[spurraider21]

Moral of the story: if you're a rich Nevada rancher who points guns at law enforcement along with your redneck militia buddies after not paying grazing fees, you're hailed as a tea party patriot with fox news as your cheerleader. If you're a less well-off member of society, especially a person of color, your death is justifiable, even if you're 12 and it was a toy gun that you didn't even get around to pointing at the cops.

You people just need to know your role and shut up. This is America, if you don't have money and connections you ain't worth squat.

moral of the post: assholes will try to politicize everything

[Malik Hairston]

Not surprised that this happened in Cleveland, tbh..makes LeCoon's return even more pathetic..

[hehateme]

Not surprised that this happened in Cleveland, tbh..makes LeCoon's return even more pathetic..

He did just release his views on the Ferguson issue. I am guessing he will be labeled as an Uncle Tom now, if he hasn't already.

[Chomag]

We always removed or colored over any part of the gun that made it look like a toy.

And You put yourselves at "risk" in doing so.

[spurraider21]

^can't wait till athletes chime in on this one

"how can i explain this to my kids? they should be able to remove the orange safety cap from a toy gun, point it at people, and if a police officer shows up, they should whip the gun out, and be totally ok. this is an unjust world. #blacklivesmatter

[Warlord23]

moral of the post: assholes will try to politicize everything

Lol your Armenian ass supports Bundy, huh? He thanks you for your support, but doesn't really need it. Your kind doesn't write the rules, just stay down and do as you're told, there's a nice chap

[Trill Clinton]

Considering anyone that posts on the board was not part of either Ferguson or the Cleveland incident, its all what-ifs. But that's what makes this interesting. Varying opinions on the subject matter and it entertains. At least its not photoshopping people and a glut of ing emoticons.

Moral of the story: if you're a rich Nevada rancher who points guns at law enforcement along with your redneck militia buddies after not paying grazing fees, you're hailed as a tea party patriot with fox news as your cheerleader. If you're a less well-off member of society, especially a person of color, your death is justifiable, even if you're 12 and it was a toy gun that you didn't even get around to pointing at the cops.

You people just need to know your role and shut up. This is America, if you don't have money and connections you ain't worth squat.

[Koolaid_Man]

Moral of the story: if you're a rich Nevada rancher who points guns at law enforcement along with your redneck militia buddies after not paying grazing fees, you're hailed as a tea party patriot with fox news as your cheerleader. If you're a less well-off member of society, especially a person of color, your death is justifiable, even if you're 12 and it was a toy gun that you didn't even get around to pointing at the cops.

You people just need to know your role and shut up. This is America, if you don't have money and connections you ain't worth squat.

[Clipper Nation]

Moral of the story: if you're a rich Nevada rancher who points guns at law enforcement along with your redneck militia buddies after not paying grazing fees, you're hailed as a tea party patriot with fox news as your cheerleader. If you're a less well-off member of society, especially a person of color, your death is justifiable, even if you're 12 and it was a toy gun that you didn't even get around to pointing at the cops.

You people just need to know your role and shut up. This is America, if you don't have money and connections you ain't worth squat.

Lib tears aside, if you point anything that even looks like a gun at a cop, or if you charge at a cop and try to take their weapon, you are taking your life in your hands.

[Creepn]

Also people using they OMG he was shot in seconds when he pulled out the gun!!! Murderers!!!. IT only takes a second of hesitation to be killed.

Then how the you supposed to surrender your "weapon"?

[Warlord23]

Lib tears aside, if you point anything that even looks like a gun at a cop, or if you charge at a cop and try to take their weapon, you are taking your life in your hands.

That might well be true, but it doesn't apply equally to all Americans. If you think the government and law enforcement are consistent about how and where they choose to apply force, you're completely out of touch with reality.

As an aside, that "rule" you mentioned wouldn't apply in 95% of the developed world. The only places where such incidents happen are poor Asian / African countries and the good old USA

[RsxPiimp]

The kid most likely didn't knew how to react. But If it was an airsoft gun with the orange label indicator puled off. There is no way of telling it apart from the real deal until it's fired. It's tragic, but can't blame the cops on this one. Remember all the intentional shootings involving 12 year olds. Time is a luxury the officer didn't have, unfortunately.

[Chomag]

Why the did they pull up so close?

From the video where the security camera was positioned most likely on a building. They probably pulled in between him and the reck building to intercept him where there were people inside.

[Chomag]

The kid most likely didn't knew how to react. But If it was an airsoft gun with the orange label indicator puled off. There is no way of telling it apart from the real deal until it's fired. It's tragic, but can't blame the cops on this one. Remember all the intentional shootings involving 12 year olds. Time is a luxury the officer didn't have, unfortunately.

This is exactly how I am seeing this. Sad that this happened but he put himself at a risk with the removal of the orange label indicator. There is a reason why all toy guns must have them. I wish this situation didn't happen and im sure neither did the cops but they had to address the situation as it's their job to do so.

[Warlord23]

I gotta say, at least this kid got a few seconds to react before he was put down. The other incident that happened a couple of months back when cops shot a man holding a bb gun inside Walmart (he'd picked it up from the store itself) didn't get any warning before he became target practice for the cops. And no, they didn't get indicted either:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...e_charged.html

So I don't know what y'all are whining about. Cops are always right, accept it and move on.

[spurraider21]

[Warlord23]

[spurraider21]

^ that was a good one

[Warlord23]

All in good fun, buddy

[Clipper Nation]

That might well be true, but it doesn't apply equally to all Americans. If you think the government and law enforcement are consistent about how and where they choose to apply force, you're completely out of touch with reality.

It applied equally to Dillon Taylor and to Mike Brown.