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    read this and tell me what you think about this guy. do you think he is qualified to make the assertions he is making?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Baugh
    An obvious kook.

    But why go to the extreme with this? As we see/read there are many well respected intelligent people out there loaded down with degrees and credentials who challenge the theory of evolution. Many were once atheists who switched opinions.

    The bottom line is there is enought evidence to support the fact that no we don't have all the answers yet and the only fair way to approach this until we do is to be open to all possibilties. This...."I know for a fact that.."..simply isn't realistic, we don't know anything for a fact when it comes to this.

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    An obvious kook.

    But why go to the extreme with this? As we see/read there are many well respected intelligent people out there loaded down with degrees and credentials who challenge the theory of evolution. Many were once atheists who switched opinions.

    The bottom line is there is enought evidence to support the fact that no we don't have all the answers yet and the only fair way to approach this until we do is to be open to all possibilties. This...."I know for a fact that.."..simply isn't realistic, we don't know anything for a fact when it comes to this.
    i didnt go to the extreme. thats a biography of the guy in the video YOU just posted. one second ago "he makes sense" and now after reading about him he's an obvious cook

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    i didnt go to the extreme. thats a biography of the guy in the video YOU just posted. one second ago "he makes sense" and now after reading about him he's an obvious cook
    I posted that video before you drew attention to who he really is. I then changed my mind.....obviously.

    You do know there are tons of others out there saying pretty much the same things about evolution right? For you to try and belittle all of them won't work. Right now you are in this...'but I was taught"...and are closed minded to anything besides that. You do realize more people today question evolution than they did 20 years ago, right? Why is that? Do you think 20 years from now there won't be even less buying into it? How come most people aren't ..."oh yeah, that's wjhat happened."....?

    You need to stop with this.."I know biology"...ok? Nobody cares to begin with and it's real obviouis you don't want to think you wasted your time.

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    I posted that video before you drew attention to who he really is. I then changed my mind.....obviously.

    You do know there are tons of others out there saying pretty much the same things about evolution right? For you to try and belittle all of them won't work. Right now you are in this...'but I was taught"...and are closed minded to anything besides that. You do realize more people today question evolution than they did 20 years ago, right? Why is that? Do you think 20 years from now there won't be even less buying into it? How come most people aren't ..."oh yeah, that's wjhat happened."....?

    You need to stop with this.."I know biology"...ok? Nobody cares to begin with and it's real obviouis you don't want to think you wasted your time.
    i dont think that is accurate. can you tell me where you got that factoid from?

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    almost all the evidence we have right now points to it. vestigial structures like the appendix, whale species with underdeveloped legs...
    Those bones are used to help the whale mate they are not undeveloped legs.

    You take being a misinformed idiot to new levels.

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    i dont think that is accurate. can you tell me where you got that factoid from?
    I was talking scientists, my bad. And now I can't find......more scientists are now seeing the theory of evolution with a skeptical eye than ever before.

    How close to what you were taught do you think was taught 100 years before you? How close do you think what you were taught will be taught a 100 years from now?

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    Whales do not have a vestigial pelvis.

    Those little bones attach to muscles, without which, whales would be unable to reproduce! They have nothing to do with walking on dry land and everything to do with creating baby whales. Therefore, this author is either completely ignorant of whale anatomy and therefore should not be writing about it, or this is malicious and deceitful.

    As I have said in the previous articles, having to “imagine” something happened is not good Science.

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    I was talking scientists, my bad. And now I can't find......more scientists are now seeing the theory of evolution with a skeptical eye than ever before.

    How close to what you were taught do you think was taught 100 years before you? How close do you think what you were taught will be taught a 100 years from now?
    ok. even if we arent talking scientists. where are you getting this notion that more people are skeptical about evolution now than 20 years ago?

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    ok. even if we arent talking scientists. where are you getting this notion that more people are skeptical about evolution now than 20 years ago?
    I was talking about scientists I don't know where the general public is on this, you have already made it clear they don't count.

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    just because a vestigial structure has a new function that does not mean it is not still a vestigial structure. birds wings enable flight, but their ancestors that didn't fly still had arms with the same general skeletal structure. vestigial just means it no longer serves its original function.

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    I was talking about scientists I don't know where the general public is on this, you have already made it clear they don't count.
    scientists or not, i just want to know what you are basing your statement on.

    you said they're more skeptical of evolution now than 20 years ago. what are you basing that on?

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    scientists or not, i just want to know what you are basing your statement on.

    you said they're more skeptical of evolution now than 20 years ago. what are you basing that on?
    I'll go really really slow, you can do this.

    Somewhere out there I came across some article talking about how the science world is starting to question the theory of evolution more than ever before. Many scientists totally changing their minds about it.

    Ok ya with me?

    Now I can't find where I saw that. As I mentioned already...ok?

    You honestly haven't picked up on the fact there are tons of people out there not buying it? Wow~~~~~~~~~~

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    i'm sure there are people that don't buy it. i'm skeptical of your claim about how scientists over the past 20 years have shifted away from evolution

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    i'm sure there are people that don't buy it. i'm skeptical of your claim about how scientists over the past 20 years have shifted away from evolution
    Like I've told you before, you're comprehension skills are weak....honest.

    I'm not talking aboiut science shifting away, ok? I'm talking about more scientists than ever not buying it.....ok? We see a larger % of doubt in the scientific world than ever before.....ok?

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    Like I've told you before, you're comprehension skills are weak....honest.

    I'm not talking aboiut science shifting away, ok? I'm talking about more scientists than ever not buying it.....ok? We see a larger % of doubt in the scientific world than ever before.....ok?
    Prove it, fatty.

    Lol " your comprehension skills are weak "

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    Like I've told you before, you're comprehension skills are weak....honest.

    I'm not talking aboiut science shifting away, ok? I'm talking about more scientists than ever not buying it.....ok? We see a larger % of doubt in the scientific world than ever before.....ok?
    ok. and i'm asking you where you are getting these %'s from

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    just because a vestigial structure has a new function that does not mean it is not still a vestigial structure. birds wings enable flight, but their ancestors that didn't fly still had arms with the same general skeletal structure. vestigial just means it no longer serves its original function.
    Then post the fossils that shows whales had legs or STFU

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    WTF are. You smoking ?

    The first picture is not a whale the second photo where are the legs

    Third photo is a bull drawing where are the whale with legs fossils ?

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    WTF are. You smoking ?

    The first picture is not a whale the second photo where are the legs

    Third photo is a bull drawing where are the whale with legs fossils ?
    i showed the evolutionary tree of how legged species are ancestors of modern whales. the two fossils i gave pictures of are two of the intermediates. the first one is rodhecetus and the second is dorudon. both are shown in the 3rd image as the whales predecessors

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    Bro stop the embarrassment go back to the Spurs forum.

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    Bro stop the embarrassment go back to the Spurs forum.
    why are you embarrassing yourself with pictures of artists renditions? im not interested in those. you asked for fossils of whale ancestry with legs, and i provided the proof of them. now you are just vomiting all over yourself

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    i showed the evolutionary tree of how legged species are ancestors of modern whales. the two fossils i gave pictures of are two of the intermediates. the first one is rodhecetus and the second is dorudon. both are shown in the 3rd image as the whales predecessors

    I asked you plan and simple post a fossil of whales with legs not a bull propaganda tree
    Stop dancing around and back your whales with legs comments

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    I asked you plan and simple post a fossil of whales with legs not a bull propaganda tree
    Stop dancing around and back your whales with legs comments
    whales never had full grown legs. their ancestors did.

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    why are you embarrassing yourself with pictures of artists renditions? im not interested in those. you asked for fossils of whale ancestry with legs, and i provided the proof of them. now you are just vomiting all over yourself
    The photos are from Berkeley wtf are you smoking


    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolib...le/evograms_03



    I am now convinced your the biggest moron in this topic.

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