OT: Manny Paq better not duck Money..

[Clipper Nation]

Why should he have to take a drug test? How about a drug test for Pac and a lie detector for Mayrunner,,,I bet Mayrunner folds and runs away again.

If Pac-Roids isn't juicing, then what's the problem with taking a test?

[Clipper Nation]

You want to be considered "the GOAT"? You want to even be in the CONVERSATION?

47-0... pretty sure he's firmly in the conversation.

[HemisfairArena]

If Pac-Roids isn't juicing, then what's the problem with taking a test?

If Mayrunner isnt hitting women then whats the problem with taking a lie dectector?,,,and its why Pacman should make the same demands Mayrunner is but he wont,,,Pacman wants to fight,,,Mayrunner doesn't.

[Buddy Mignon]

ing terrible. He isn't even in the conversation. No one who knows/cares about the sweet science would even read your comment. Go back to watching Naruto. Also, Tyson in his prime was not going to be stopped by any man on the planet. That's a fact. Mayweather points terrible fighters, meanwhile Tyson was leveling dudes in round 1 like they weren't even pros.

I've already proven I'm the greatest mind on basketball on this site. I'm most likely the greatest mind in boxing this world has known. You're comment is beyond idiotic so I won't take much time dismantling it. Tyson in his prime, before his prime, or after his prime never beat one HOF fighter... unless you consider an old and washed up Spinks and Holmes much compe ion. Tyson was knocked out anytime he stepped up to face stiff compe ion. I could easily name 20 or so Heavyweights that could kick Tyson's ass during his prime.

[Clipper Nation]

If Mayrunner isnt hitting women then whats the problem with taking a lie dectector?,,,and its why Pacman should make the same demands Mayrunner is but he wont,,,Pacman wants to fight,,,Mayrunner doesn't.

Pac-Roids' washed-up ass would get rightfully laughed out of the room if he ever asked for a 70% share. Floyd (and Pac-Roids' repeated ducking of him) is literally the only thing keeping him relevant.

[Mikeanaro]

The amount of respect Floyd gets from boxers is unreal. Sugar Ray Leonard himself said, he doesn't think he can knock/beat floyd out.

Nobody can and nobody will, not in a boxing ring how can you punch him if he is running away and hiding behind the ref all fight? saying you bite him you blabla he never beats the out his opponents, last KO was 10 years ago, he is not 50, he should fight B Hop 10 years ago Lol and see what happens, gave a chance to a washed up fixed De La Hoya so why not?
Champions beat the soul out their foes, that gay style is for little kids who dont know about boxing because this is the worst era ever, kids who thinks One Direction is a rock band and Justin Bieber a musician.
From the 30s and 90s you just could not be running around circles from your opponent, refs will make you fight or get disqualified for being a pussy.
Sugar Ray, Hearns Hagler Monzon would kill him with real boxing rules or in the streets but if they say something good about this phony well they are broke, boxers are simians for business, remember when Tyson was all y about his fortune his mansions, his s and gold? Iron Mike?

[HemisfairArena]

I've already proven I'm the greatest mind on basketball on this site. I'm most likely the greatest mind in boxing this world has known. You're comment is beyond idiotic so I won't take much time dismantling it. Tyson in his prime, before his prime, or after his prime never beat one HOF fighter... unless you consider an old and washed up Spinks and Holmes much compe ion. Tyson was knocked out anytime he stepped up to face stiff compe ion. I could easily name 20 or so Heavyweights that could kick Tyson's ass during his prime.

Name the 20,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

Pac-Roids' washed-up ass would get rightfully laughed out of the room if he ever asked for a 70% share. Floyd (and Pac-Roids' repeated ducking of him) is literally the only thing keeping him relevant.

And there you have it,,,,Mayrunner wanting a majority of the score knowing Pacman wont go for it,,,wanting drug tests,,this and that,,Mayrunner doesn't want to fight the guy. Face it.

[Clipper Nation]

And there you have it,,,,Mayrunner wanting a majority of the score knowing Pacman wont go for it,,,wanting drug tests,,this and that,,Mayrunner doesn't want to fight the guy. Face it.

Floyd deserves the majority share because he's the only reason anyone would even watch the fight. Pac-Roids knows full well that continuing to duck Floyd keeps him in the headlines, whereas he'd otherwise be completely irrelevant ever since Marquez knocked him the out. He knows he can get away with ducking Floyd because the media hates Floyd and will blame it all on him no matter what. Bottom line: Pac-Roids is perfectly content with never fighting Floyd and letting Floyd take all the heat for it. He's one of the biggest and most overrated pussies in sports, as far as I'm concerned.

[RsxPiimp]

Nobody can and nobody will, not in a boxing ring how can you punch him if he is running away and hiding behind the ref all fight? saying you bite him you blabla he never beats the out his opponents, last KO was 10 years ago, he is not 50, he should fight B Hop 10 years ago Lol and see what happens, gave a chance to a washed up fixed De La Hoya so why not?
Champions beat the soul out their foes, that gay style is for little kids who dont know about boxing because this is the worst era ever, kids who thinks One Direction is a rock band and Justin Bieber a musician.
From the 30s and 90s you just could not be running around circles from your opponent, refs will make you fight or get disqualified for being a pussy.
Sugar Ray, Hearns Hagler Monzon would kill him with real boxing rules or in the streets but if they say something good about this phony well they are broke, boxers are simians for business, remember when Tyson was all y about his fortune his mansions, his s and gold? Iron Mike?

I despise Floyd tbh, his style bores the out of me(out-boxer), but his boxing style is a form of art. I think it's all preference at this point, I prefer sluggers and boxer punchers (PAC, Sugar Ray, Prime DelaHoya,Hagler)

[bulakenyo]

Nobody can and nobody will, not in a boxing ring how can you punch him if he is running away and hiding behind the ref all fight? saying you bite him you blabla he never beats the out his opponents, last KO was 10 years ago, he is not 50, he should fight B Hop 10 years ago Lol and see what happens, gave a chance to a washed up fixed De La Hoya so why not?
Champions beat the soul out their foes, that gay style is for little kids who dont know about boxing because this is the worst era ever, kids who thinks One Direction is a rock band and Justin Bieber a musician.
From the 30s and 90s you just could not be running around circles from your opponent, refs will make you fight or get disqualified for being a pussy.
Sugar Ray, Hearns Hagler Monzon would kill him with real boxing rules or in the streets but if they say something good about this phony well they are broke, boxers are simians for business, remember when Tyson was all y about his fortune his mansions, his s and gold? Iron Mike?

I'm not the biggest fan of Mayweather but to say FMJ is not a real boxer is not fair to him.

I remember an old sports commentator say that Floyd is a at the core is a pure boxer, hit and not get hit. while Pacquiao is at the core an all action prizefighter. Both are boxing, both has it's pros and cons, and it depends which style you like better.

Personally, I like FMJ's technique and fundamentals, and enjoy it like I'm enjoying watching an art film, while MP's fight I enjoy with more excitement, like I'm enjoying watching a summer action movie.

[HemisfairArena]

I despise Floyd tbh, his style bores the out of me(out-boxer), but his boxing style is a form of art. I think it's all preference at this point, I prefer sluggers and boxer punchers (PAC, Sugar Ray, Prime DelaHoya,Hagler)

Hagler is one of my favorites,,,,top 5 actually. Dude is wayyy underrated. Marvelous Marvin is the man.

[Buddy Mignon]

I'm not begrudging Mayweather his right to take more money, just like I'm not saying Kobe shouldn't have signed for 48.

The rub is when you start talking about wanting to be "the greatest". If you WANT to be in that conversation, then your own personal finances, at some point, have to take a back seat to legacy.

You want to be considered "the GOAT"? You want to even be in the CONVERSATION? Then your entire career can't be motivated by money first and foremost.

There's a reason the UFC has taken over as the combat sport. Because they don't allow fighters to not fight each other. If Manny and Floyd were in the UFC, that fight would have happened 8 years ago and we'd probably be on Floyd/Manny IV by now.

Dude... the UFC is a joke... what the are you talking about. UFC 174 sold 95k PPV, while Floyd's last fight sold 900,000k PPV. Every great fighter always demanded and controlled the terms of the deal. There's an A side and a B side. The A side sets the terms... how much money is paid, the gloves size, the ring size, and so forth. The B side just shows up to take the crown from the A side so he can wear the crown. These negotiations go back to the beginning of boxing. Also, there are plenty of fights the UFC failed to make. Silva flat out refused to fight Lyota. Stop talking out of your ass.

[Buddy Mignon]

Hagler is one of my favorites,,,,top 5 actually. Dude is wayyy underrated. Marvelous Marvin is the man.

I like Hagler, but he let a washed up Leonard who had been retired for 6 years kick his ass. I could name 10 middleweights that would have done the same thing to Hagler.

[bulakenyo]

Dude... the UFC is a joke... what the are you talking about. UFC 174 sold 95k PPV, while Floyd's last fight sold 900,000k PPV. Every great fighter always demanded and controlled the terms of the deal. There's an A side and a B side. The A side sets the terms... how much money is paid, the gloves size, the ring size, and so forth. The B side just shows up to take the crown from the A side so he can wear the crown. These negotiations go back to the beginning of boxing. Also, there are plenty of fights the UFC failed to make. Silva flat out refused to fight Lyota. Stop talking out of your ass.

US PPVs might not be the best measure of MMa's success.

It's pretty big overseas, honestly it's right up there with pro boxing. Maybe even kinda more popular in some parts.

They show all fight cards, even PPVs for free in asia, and it's getting more and more popular.

[HemisfairArena]

I like Hagler, but he let a washed up Leonard who had been retired for 6 years kick his ass. I could name 10 middleweights that would have done the same thing to Hagler.

Hagler ruled the better part of the 80's, He holds the best knockout percentage in middle weight history to this day,,,,dude was the boss.

[Buddy Mignon]

Hagler ruled the better part of the 80's, He holds the best knockout percentage in middle weight history to this day,,,,dude was the boss.

My second favorite fighter behind Ali, but Leonard came up a division to expose him and beat him easily. I hated then... I hate it now, but it happened.

[Mikeanaro]

I'm not the biggest fan of Mayweather but to say FMJ is not a real boxer is not fair to him.

I remember an old sports commentator say that Floyd is a at the core is a pure boxer, hit and not get hit. while Pacquiao is at the core an all action prizefighter. Both are boxing, both has it's pros and cons, and it depends which style you like better.

Personally, I like FMJ's technique and fundamentals, and enjoy it like I'm enjoying watching an art film, while MP's fight I enjoy with more excitement, like I'm enjoying watching a summer action movie.

Im all about summer actions movies.

[HemisfairArena]

My second favorite fighter behind Ali, but Leonard came up a division to expose him and beat him easily. I hated then... I hate it now, but it happened.

I agree,,,I didn't like Leonard,,,still don't but man was he quick. He would throw 10 punches before you could blink,

[Buddy Mignon]

US PPVs might not be the best measure of MMa's success.

It's pretty big overseas, honestly it's right up there with pro boxing. Maybe even kinda more popular in some parts.

They show all fight cards, even PPVs for free in asia, and it's getting more and more popular.

What are you talking about? The biggest league in MMA is UFC... and fighters are fleeing it for other options. No one is s ing out dollars to watch this . You could take the top fighters in MMA and put them all on one card and they wouldn't out-sell a Mayweather PPF fight. Its fact.

[HemisfairArena]

I remember watching these fights on the Wide World of Sports when TV only had 3 stations and Cosell doing the commentary,,,,no pay per view,,,no remote control,,,,

[Buddy Mignon]

I agree,,,I didn't like Leonard,,,still don't but man was he quick. He would throw 10 punches before you could blink,

Of all fighters I hate that slick headed mother er the most. What an arrogant little prick his was and still is.

[bulakenyo]

What are you talking about? The biggest league in MMA is UFC... and fighters are fleeing it for other options. No one is s ing out dollars to watch this . You could take the top fighters in MMA and put them all on one card and they wouldn't out-sell a Mayweather PPF fight. Its fact.

You have to be here in asia to understand. More and more Boxing gyms are getting MMA lessons available, and it seems enrolling in MMA is more popular now than the boxing lessons.

People here get excited for maybe 3 big time boxing PPVs a year (also shown for free) but the volume of compe ive and action packed MMA cards being shown (all leagues, even local asia pacific MMA leagues) that people get excited with are a lot lot more.

[Mikeanaro]

I despise Floyd tbh, his style bores the out of me(out-boxer), but his boxing style is a form of art. I think it's all preference at this point, I prefer sluggers and boxer punchers (PAC, Sugar Ray, Prime DelaHoya,Hagler)

Art = Entertainment
Maybe if he wasnt relying so heavily on the refs, when I think Art in boxing Ali, Sugar Ray, Holyfield (footwork, hard training, punch selection) comes to my mind, I respect your opionion but to me old boy Floy´ is a manufactured POS, I cant call a Champion some who is running away from foes or clinching 5 rounds in a row, In the 1st Maidana bout his face looked like shiet and Maidana came out clean... he is not a great artist to me.

[bulakenyo]

Im all about summer actions movies.

me too.

Funny because In boxing I like more offensive minded boxer punchers, but in MMA, I like pin point striking defensive movers.