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    Limit his role. If he's statistically been one of the five worst players in the league and both Patty+Cojo have been better options then play them more.

    I could give two s about showing loyalty to anyone outside of Timmy/Manu. Play the best guys, I want my Spurs to repeat.

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    other than eventual cap space
    Yes, but right now they should be thinking about winning another ring, not cap space. If they wanna cut him down the road then fine, but not this year.

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    Limit his role. If he's statistically been one of the five worst players in the league and both Patty+Cojo have been better options then play them more.

    I could give two s about showing loyalty to anyone outside of Timmy/Manu. Play the best guys, I want my Spurs to repeat.
    You listening pop? Play the best guys.

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    Parker's contract is going to make the spurs a 12-10 seed team for the next 4 years..

    He's going to ruin the organization..And the dude will never learn..He will take shots he doesn't deserve till he's 35.

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    Yes, but right now they should be thinking about winning another ring, not cap space. If they wanna cut him down the road then fine, but not this year.
    Im fine with shutting down tony parker for another month tbh. Maybe he gets a little more rest, the spurs don't need to carry his ass. win/win if you ask me. Maybe trade him after tim and manu retire.

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    Everyone here seems to take it personally that he's not as good anymore. Or takes nasty shots at him 14x a day, every day. Dude just got old. It happans and is no one's fault. Quickness based PGs (Isiah, KJ, Iverson, Tim Hardaway, Tiny Archibald, Mookie Blaylock, Norm Nixon, and 50,000 others) started declining around his age with many of them falling right off a cliff. This forum doesn't have good sense of basketball history or else people would notice that. Just look at these guy's per game and advanced stats as they approach their early to mid 30s:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...johnske02.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...iversal01.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...thomais01.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...hardati01.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...architi01.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...nixonno01.html

    each page has the age in the same line as the stats so its easy to follow. PERs following off a cliff, guys becoming part timers, or needed extra shots and/or committing more turnovers to get the same points and assists averages.

    Notes: look at Isiah's PER and especially his TS% drop like a rock over the course of his career
    KJ was toast at the same age Parker is now
    Iverson's PER dropped right to the league average at his age 33 year even though its an offensive stat and he was still taking a ton of shots

    totally random aside: Norm Nixon's playoff per game averages during those Lakrs championshiop teams he was on were pretty awesome. Had no idea he was such a big part of those chips. Also it was hard finding guys in Parker's class to compare him to he really is one of the greatest PGs in history

    Cliffs: Whats happening to Parker happens to every PG like him and its not a negative; its a fact of life.

    People here don't understand what basketball talk is.. its a fan forum.. lol


    Good post though. I agree, he's just not physically elite every night like he used to be. His shot development kept him top tier for a good while, he has always had too much of a SG mentally to be a prototypical PG, lacks vision and team awareness, but his ability to get to the rim, and finish was always great albeit reliant on him being twice as fast as everyone else...Now that his athleticism isn't dominant anymore, his below average judgment becomes more obvious.He has some of the goofiest travels, blocked/bad shots I've ever seen under the rim to accompany his great ones.

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    Limit his role.
    I agree 100%! That is what I want to see and I think they will get there. He is still great when the Spurs have that ball moving. I have faith in Pop. Now that they are healthy I think they will find that happy medium.

    Im fine with shutting down tony parker for another month tbh. Maybe he gets a little more rest, the spurs don't need to carry his ass. win/win if you ask me. Maybe trade him after tim and manu retire.
    I don't think they should shut him down. Now that everyone is back they need to find a good rotation. I believe Pop said it was like this is the first week of the season.

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    Im fine with shutting down tony parker for another 6 months tbh. Maybe he gets a little more rest, the spurs don't need to carry his ass. win/win if you ask me. Maybe trade him after tim and manu retire.
    Fixed.

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    Yes, but right now they should be thinking about winning another ring, not cap space. If they wanna cut him down the road then fine, but not this year.
    I agree. No point in trading him now. Not going to get any piece that helps them win this year for him.

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    I agree. No point in trading him now. Not going to get any piece that helps them win this year for him.
    I don't think people want to trade or waive him this season. We want pop to limit his cancerous play to 10-20mins a game.
    He hasn't deserved the playing time and it's a slap to the face to his other PGs who are playing exceptionally well and get benched in the process.

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    Maybe I mistake his jokes or whatever but isn't he a big Manu fan and always taking shots at Parker?
    I said many times I'd like him to get well... Spurs need him. He's been pretty awful this season, even frenchies agree, tbh...

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    And yeah, players get old. Some players adapt their game to still be effective, some players don't. Let's hope Tony finds a new niche that helps the team win.

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    I said many times Brazil is one of the best poster of ST

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    I agree. No point in trading him now. Not going to get any piece that helps them win this year for him.
    The Spurs do manage to get a player that is statistically one of the five worst players in the league out of their rotation though. It'd be really difficult for a returning piece to be as bad as Enrique tbh.

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    Brazil with the power move. Battling DPG for the Poster of the Month award... keep doing your thing, mane...

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    The Spurs do manage to get a player that is statistically one of the five worst players in the league out of their rotation though. It'd be really difficult for a returning piece to be as bad as Enrique tbh.
    yeah...you're right...I changed my mind...maybe do trade him now.

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    Brazil with the power move. Battling DPG for the Poster of the Month award... keep doing your thing, mane...
    They should give me this award every month tbh... I create a lot of traffic with my ing awesome takes

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    Brazil with the power move. Battling DPG for the Poster of the Month award... keep doing your thing, mane...
    One of the most promising posters tbh... He has the potential to be one of the most dominant posters in ST history tbh... I've had my eye on him for a while and he's made great strides.

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    You don't suddenly get old two months into a season.

    Dude got injured. Yeah, age makes healing take longer.

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    You don't suddenly get old two months into a season.

    Dude got injured. Yeah, age makes healing take longer.
    Chump with an actual take to OP.

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    Chump with an actual take to OP.
    It's so glaringly obvious I don't know why even the hipsters haven't noticed.

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    It's so glaringly obvious I don't know why even the hipsters haven't noticed.

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    One of the most promising posters tbh... He has the potential to be one of the most dominant posters in ST history tbh... I've had my eye on him for a while and he's made great strides.


    Damn... it's really nice to read dat stuff... we should create our own sucking circle

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    wait untill I find somewhere the password of my second troll tbh...

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