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I find it harder and harder to take anything you post seriously. Do you know Slomo personally? How the did you slip through the door when TSpence had his account approved? You don't even make for a good troll.
Clown resident per par. I'm going to bump this after we get six got. Add to the stupid hoop got says.Laughable how many posters did an about face within an 8 month time frame. If this poll was posted after 5, it would have been a landslide yes. Leonard reminds me a lot of Sean Elliott on offense. I always thought had Elliott been the third best player on the Spurs during the Robinson era rather than the second, they would have been a serious threat to win a championship. Leonard's a defensive specialist and is currently a second option on a bad team and a third option on a good team. I don't know if that will ever change.
I find it harder and harder to take anything you post seriously. Do you know Slomo personally? How the did you slip through the door when TSpence had his account approved? You don't even make for a good troll.
The Spurs need to do whatever it takes to keep Leonard while also doing whatever they can to get someone better than Leonard. Simple as that.
Do you even read what you post.
I called slomo on his cell and asked him to approve my account during the tspence saga.
Hoops Czar also said he would take Reggie Jackson over anybody on the Spurs outside of Parker/Duncan, and that Jackson is a potential superstar..good take, tbh..
My "sources
Never said that Malik Hairston thing, this is making up nowMy "sources
Richard Jefferson was 5 years ago(I was also one of the first to jump off), your Reggie Jackson comment was just last year in like January, after the Spurs just made it to the NBA Finals, and he hadn't done anything relevant in the NBA(still hasn't)..smh,.
's don't lieNever said that Malik Hairston thing, this is making up now
Richard Jefferson was 5 years ago(I was also one of the first to jump off), your Reggie Jackson comment was just last year in like January, after the Spurs just made it to the NBA Finals, and he hadn't done anything relevant in the NBA(still hasn't)..smh,.
Just realized you didn't vote.... Is that so you don't get called out at a later date ?
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Malik my girl and I had to laugh at your avatar pic.... the "fat and happy....beautiful wife.....baby....boatload of money....mansion....life is good" look! Not funny!!Never said that Malik Hairston thing, this is making up now
Richard Jefferson was 5 years ago(I was also one of the first to jump off), your Reggie Jackson comment was just last year in like January, after the Spurs just made it to the NBA Finals, and he hadn't done anything relevant in the NBA(still hasn't)..smh,.
We'll see in 3 years
You are confusing elite for franchise. Imo.
Guys like fat gasol, Aldridge, Blake, wall, cousins and more, would all qualify as franchise guys
The drunk card..'s don't lie
Just realized you didn't vote.... Is that so you don't get called out at a later date ?
Big NO. His ceiling is Pippen, max. And Pippen is no franchise player.
Sorry Kawhi; shooting 1-11 is not going to help!
Kobe shot a record worrst 1-14 in 2013 vs the Spurs (thanks to Danny Green's D ), but he's a franchise player .. :
That was at age 36/37 after 2 season ending injuries.Kobe shot a record worrst 1-14 in 2013 vs the Spurs (thanks to Danny Green's D ), but he's a franchise player .. :
Kawhi shot that AFTER a week's rest and at age 23
Sad, but true.That was at age 36/37 after 2 season ending injuries.
Kawhi shot that AFTER a week's rest and at age 23
No alibis. No excuse
I voted no but I like him a lot. They should of course keep him and pay him and wait for a nr 1 franchise player (which might take some time).
So much of this depends on how you define franchise player.
To me a franchise players is the player that is the overall best player on your team for multiple years in a row and the team is a 6 seed or higher in your conference.
I think Leonard can be a franchise player on a team like that. I don't think Leonard is going to be a player that makes a team an automatic contender on any team.
I don't really see Leonard as the night in and night out consensus best player on a championship team....
That said you really don't see one all-star teams in contention anymore. The rise of the super friends took care of that. I'm also not sure it was ever really as true as people seem to remember about having one player carry a team to championships. Most championship teams have had a perennial all star or two and/or a few guys who make a couple of all star games in their careers and are in the discussion nearly every year during their peaks.
If healthy Leonard is going to be an all star year in and year out for the next few years in the west. The issue is going to be that the spurs aren't going to have a supporting cast that can really be considered ready for the prime time. Green is shaping into a pretty decent starting 2, but You don't have a top level PG, or a top flight big man. Parker from statistical trends doesn't look like he is going to regain the form he had 20 months ago. Manu has plateaued and may be wised up to what this version of himself can do physically and only push that envelope on occasion but at this level that's a nice back-up 2 for a few minutes a night.... he's also getting older, and has always been somewhat fragile.
Diaw, he's always been a motivation mental aspect question mark. I don't really think he's done but I also don't know that many teams would be willing to guarantee that they can get him into Boris 2.0 mode. He's the player you take a flyer on at the right price and hope the locker-room/team culture drives him and that is only for another couple of seasons.
Splitter, he's been accused of being charmin soft since his arrival in SA.... he's never been a great athlete and has always seemed to be way to dependent on finesse. Personally I'm starting to think that the guy has back issues, it tends to be common in taller folks and every little lower body thing sets it off making you stiff and hesitant. If its in soft tissue its also incredibly hard to diagnose other than tenderness and inflammation. I don't think right now is the time but I want to see him dealt in the off season he's going to be 31 with alot of miles. Hes never been physically tough and depends on foot speed to get position.
I think Mills and Baynes are both with the team long term, That said Mills is a questionable starting PG. He makes a ton of sense as a back-up pg and 2 guard in the the right match-up and you expect him to be a big minute reserve. I'm starting to feel the same about Baynes. Not a starter in most match-ups but I'm cool with him getting 15 to 20 minutes subbing both big positions.
Back to Leonard, Can a team with Kahwi as their focal point make the play-offs year in and year out? Yes! That said be prepared for a whole bunch of 6th, 7th, and 8th seeds and first round exits without putting some other first tier talents around him.
I don't know where the spurs are going to get an athletic big-man with a bit of range, I'd also like to see a world where Parker is dealt for a chance to get a replacement PG. Joseph looks to have finally found his NBA game this year, but a back-court rotation of Green Joseph and Mills, is short on size when mills and Joseph are both out there and short on fire-power when its Joseph and Green when green is cold which is about a quarter of any given season.
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Pippen was certainly a franchise player. It helped that he had point guard ball-handling and playmaking skills.
Marc Gasol has the offensive firepower? He isn't a 20 ppg guy...Last season he averaged 14.6 ppg, this season 18.3 ppg, career 14 ppg, but he's the franchise player of the #2 team in the West.
Why Kawhi can't emerge as that type of franchise-leading?
Hard to say Gasol is a franchise player. He's pretty good but I feel Memphis is a team that relies on both him and ZBO to carry them. If you put Marc on a team by himself and built around him I doubt they would be an elite team. The same could be said about ZBO. ZBO-Gasol together is a strong inside presence that's why Memphis has been pretty good for the last few years. They weren't that good until they paired Zbo with Gasol.
Or if Kawhi would not have been injured half season.
Not really...
Kawhi's 4th year isn't a finished season yet, he has been plagued with injuries but he's getting better by the season.
Interesting stuff.Or if Kawhi would not have been injured half season.
Not really...
Kawhi's 4th year isn't a finished season yet, he has been plagued with injuries but he's getting better by the season.
Maybe my memory is flawed, or biased towards eons past.
Thank you.
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