There have been 7 teams in NBA history..

[Malik Hairston]

Still no answers..smh..

[ChumpDumper]

Still no answers..smh..

Still no explanation for your welshing on your leave of absence.

[Johnny RIngo]

I like that Johnny here has an inside source about how hard the team tried to play defense in a certain series. We need these kinds of posters who don't make things up out of their ass to fit the agenda.

Those are official numbers from basketball reference and ESPN. None of them are made up. If you don't understand the data, you probably shouldn't be taking part in the discussion.

You want an example of the Spurs playing great defense? Look at the first round series against the Nuggets in 2005. Denver scored 106.0 points per 100 pos in the reg season. In the first round against the Spurs, they were limited to 98.2 ORtg. The individual DRtg in that series supports this argument:



It's incredibly naive(and stupid) to assume the Spurs are going to play the same way against every opponent.

[K...]

Oh you guys with your stats (your stats and your stats only! ). Why are we hung up on Parkers legacy all of a sudden? Whether his prime was two years or ten he is the franchise best pg and the best point guard (assuming he will recover) right now.

This whole thing is old. You are just removing the Manu from the Manu Parker threads of old. I remember then people ed hard about Parker and his lack of assists. That was the stat of the day back then. I'd like to think Spurstalk got smarter on how to value Tony Parker. Like it or not, he's the pg until pop says no. Stop wasting your breathe.

[mkurts]

Oh you guys with your stats (your stats and your stats only! ). Why are we hung up on Parkers legacy all of a sudden? Whether his prime was two years or ten he is the franchise best pg and the best point guard (assuming he will recover) right now.

This whole thing is old. You are just removing the Manu from the Manu Parker threads of old. I remember then people ed hard about Parker and his lack of assists. That was the stat of the day back then. I'd like to think Spurstalk got smarter on how to value Tony Parker. Like it or not, he's the pg until pop says no. Stop wasting your breathe.

Yes he sure is.

[apalisoc_9]

Still no answers..smh..

Parker fans..Smdh

[Mr Bones]

That chart is data from the 2005 Conference Finals against the Suns. Because you seem to have problems with reading comprehension, I'll repeat. Nobody was putting a concerted effort on defense in the Suns series - Bowen included. Defensive numbers were irrelevant there. Nash averaged 23/10 on 57 TS%. Amare averaged 37/10 on 61 TS%. Suns as a whole scored 114.0 points per 100 possessions(no different than their season numbers). Spurs beat them with better offense so the only pertinent data one can take from that chart is the offensive numbers.

I'm sure Bruce Bowen and Tim Duncan would be amused to hear they didn't work very hard on the defensive side of the floor in this series. How enlightening your take would be for them.

[apalisoc_9]

Still no answer...

Damn vanilla fans...

[Tuddy]

Well you can exclude 2003 & 2005 as he wasn't a star then - didn't have a jumper. 2006-2013 he was a beast.

[Johnny RIngo]

I'm sure Bruce Bowen and Tim Duncan would be amused to hear they didn't work very hard on the defensive side of the floor in this series. How enlightening your take would be for them.

Playing both ends of the floor is exhausting. Most teams fell into the trap of trying to contain the Suns offense - which was a mistake. Spurs, wisely, focused all their energy on offense and outplayed the Suns at their own game. Probably helped conserve energy for the Finals.

[Johnny RIngo]

Oh you guys with your stats (your stats and your stats only! ). Why are we hung up on Parkers legacy all of a sudden? Whether his prime was two years or ten he is the franchise best pg and the best point guard (assuming he will recover) right now.

This whole thing is old. You are just removing the Manu from the Manu Parker threads of old. I remember then people ed hard about Parker and his lack of assists. That was the stat of the day back then. I'd like to think Spurstalk got smarter on how to value Tony Parker. Like it or not, he's the pg until pop says no. Stop wasting your breathe.

I actually don't hate Parker. Until the last two years, he's been a great regular season player. I do have an issue with his inability to replicate that same level of play in the post-season. He was good in the 2007 playoffs(but overrated due to winning the Finals MVP - Duncan was by far the best player on the team). 2008 and 2009 were good years. 2013 was shaping up to be his best playoffs to date until he choked in the Finals. It's been downhill ever since. No shame in being a playoff choker. Malone was a great regular season player too - never did quite step it up on the biggest stage either. TP's no different.

[apalisoc_9]

[K...]

Attention dudes, please re-read your own dang point guard obsession thread. It's like you answered your own question months ago. Why are y'all so obsessed with point guards?

[Mr Bones]

Attention dudes, please re-read your own dang point guard obsession thread. It's like you answered your own question months ago. Why are y'all so obsessed with point guards?

They are obsessed.

It's hilarious.

[apalisoc_9]

Still no answer..Man these guys don't know how to talk ball..jesus.

Bunch of fat got in here.

[Mr Bones]

Still no answer..Man these guys don't know how to talk ball..jesus.

Bunch of fat got in here.

5'8" trashtalking internet bully

[KL2]

Parker fan boys getting mopped up in here

[Aztecfan03]

That chart is data from the 2005 Conference Finals against the Suns. Because you seem to have problems with reading comprehension, I'll repeat. Nobody was putting a concerted effort on defense in the Suns series - Bowen included. Defensive numbers were irrelevant there. Nash averaged 23/10 on 57 TS%. Amare averaged 37/10 on 61 TS%. Suns as a whole scored 114.0 points per 100 possessions(no different than their season numbers). Spurs beat them with better offense so the only pertinent data one can take from that chart is the offensive numbers.

That's a bull arguement if i've ever heard one.

[Malik Hairston]

Man, there aren't many players that are worse playoff performers than this piece of trash, tbh..