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  1. #26
    Veteran RD2191's Avatar
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    Here's a pity, reply, now wipe the crisco off your keyboard..

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    To be accurate, he's not actually arguing that today's players are "better" per se, just that they expend more energy on defense. Granted, you could argue that trying harder on defense makes you a better player; but it's slightly misleading because most people conceptualize "talent" as independent of effort. So it really comes down to semantics, I suppose, but I find the topic le misleading.

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    Here's a pity, reply, now wipe the crisco off your keyboard..




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    the 80's was a joke xompared to today's game..
    Team defensive schemes are more advanced. No doubt about it. Just like offensive and defensive schemes in the NFL are more advanced than they were inthe 80's I would be stupid to argue otherwise. But most of the younger fans on here dont know about the 80's outside of youtube and I am telling you that the guys I mentioned above are better defenders than some of the people you guys suck off on here ... Coop, Dennis johnson, Nance would be great defenders in any era.

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    Team defensive schemes are more advanced. No doubt about it. Just like offensive and defensive schemes in the NFL are more advanced than they were inthe 80's I would be stupid to argue otherwise. But most of the younger fans on here dont know about the 80's outside of youtube and I am telling you that the guys I mentioned above are better defenders than some of the people you guys suck off on here ... Coop, Dennis johnson, Nance would be great defenders in any era.
    Effort expended on defense has skyrocketed. Do you deny this? In the 80s the average team score of a game was 109. The FG% in 83-84 was 49.2!

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    Team defensive schemes are more advanced. No doubt about it. Just like offensive and defensive schemes in the NFL are more advanced than they were inthe 80's I would be stupid to argue otherwise. But most of the younger fans on here dont know about the 80's outside of youtube and I am telling you that the guys I mentioned above are better defenders than some of the people you guys suck off on here ... Coop, Dennis johnson, Nance would be great defenders in any era.
    No love for child whoring ankle bracelet wearing felon Alvin Robertson, ya Laker bas ?


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    It's never going to happen because the big money pie that comes from ticket and suite sales/merchandise sales/licensing rights/tv rights is all based on an 82 game season. I mean, if the players and the owners both want to make less money, then sure go ahead and shorten the season.

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    imo get rid of preseason

    start of preseason should be start of regular season and stretch out the games, no bs 4 games in 5 nights crap
    do something about tanking...

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    imo get rid of preseason

    start of preseason should be start of regular season and stretch out the games, no bs 4 games in 5 nights crap
    do something about tanking...
    In an ideal world, I think a 65 game season would be best. Pre-season would be no more than 3 games, no more back to backs, no more 4 games in 5 nights. But it's never going to happen.

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    No love for child whoring ankle bracelet wearing felon Alvin Robertson, ya Laker bas ?

    I agree thought about mentioning him as well. But KI shouldn't have to, on a Spurs board. In fact Arob was better at defending opposing PG/SG than most of the so called great two way players of today.

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    It would only be possible if the players agreed to less money per year; but since that isn't going to happen, neither is the shortening of the season.

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    He has the right idea, but totally the wrong argument to try and defend it.

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    ^& usually it's just the opposite for this charlatan.

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    It's never going to happen because the big money pie that comes from ticket and suite sales/merchandise sales/licensing rights/tv rights is all based on an 82 game season. I mean, if the players and the owners both want to make less money, then sure go ahead and shorten the season.
    Shortening a season could drive up demand for tickets, though. Again, the NFL is the standard-bearer here. Every single game in a season is incredibly important, and unlike baseball, basketball can't get by as a way to "pass the time in a cool place", unfortunately, so more games wouldn't work too well.

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    It doesn't matter how they market it or how they fund it. It matters whether or not they do it. Fewer games is fine, longer stretches between games will change the face of the NBA, no back to backs removes the need to rest players on consecutive nights, however when game 50 comes around you'll still see ty basketball because teams will sit their stars in fear of injury. You'll see tanking because the draft is ed up. When it's better to be the worst team in the NBA than to be 9th place in your conference, that's a broken system. It's like being just above the poverty line and not getting welfare or food stamps, but if you lose your job you live better. ty system made by idiots.

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    Nah, keep it as it is. They should start with smarter scheduling instead. Eliminate one week with 2 games followed by 4 games in 5 nights the next, Home/Road back 2 back games needs to go as well.



    Also, take out preseason games. Those are pointless and meaningless.
    I agree but the scheduling is very complex for most teams as some arenas are shared by multiple teams and are far more booked by other en ies, Staples and MSG for example.


    Preseason definitely needs to go though.

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    The NFL definitely makes fewer games work for them.
    The NFL is doing everything possible to increase the number of games.

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    The NFL is doing everything possible to increase the number of games.
    Yes, from 16 to 18. That's still not significant compared to the NBA/MLB/NHL. I seriously doubt we'll see a 24+ game NFL season anytime soon.

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    56 game season with more rest between games sounds right to me.

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    Yes, from 16 to 18. That's still not significant compared to the NBA/MLB/NHL. I seriously doubt we'll see a 24+ game NFL season anytime soon.
    The NFL owners would have teams play every night were it physically possible. The games are apples and oranges.

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    season should be shortened, but not by much: 76 games, no back to backs

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    Most teams play each 4 teams if you are in the east you play easy teams 4 times only play 3 times
    That is all you needy I do

  23. #48
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    today's NBA
    can't play more than 2 times a week omg so exhausting
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  24. #49
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    Loads of .

    Players these days are unquestionably weaker for whatever reason, I suspect it's because they train to hard.

    In any event, do whatever, the league is about as uninteresting as it's ever been.

    Hopefully, the playoffs show us something.

    Plus, it's hard to top the narrative of the previous two seasons which are all-time high points, so wait and see.

    Btw, anyway claiming the level of play today is just worlds away from previous eras, do yourself a favor and check out youtube or hardwood classics on NBA TV.

    You don't know wtf you're talking about.

  25. #50
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    Nope

    Current format rewards teams that have deep benches (Spurs). It punishes teams with frontloaded talent (Portland) and borderline re ed coaches who don't understand losing an occasional regular season game is better than playing your stars 40 mpg (Thibs).

    Request denied.

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