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    He missed 6 FTs.

    Shaw and even Horry drug you out of the fire there.
    No. It was Kobe who was the catalyst in bringing us back from the brink of extinction. He doesn't to that we lose, Media descends on Daddy like a herd of locust then turn on Kobe & I don't get to mentor you because I ain't here.

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    What has Lebron accomplished without Wade?

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    What has Lebron accomplished without Wade?
    Or, without Amy?

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    I say again, his legacy to me is 2000 Western Conference Finals Game 7, the fourth quarter most specifically.
    When he was way past his prime and when the opposing team shoots 20+ fts in the fourth?

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    25-4 down the stretch, that's all I'm saying. They scored 4 points in 10 minutes with a chance to go to the NBA Finals.

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    25-4 down the stretch, that's all I'm saying. They scored 4 points in 10 minutes with a chance to go to the NBA Finals.
    Tough to score when you got hacked every possession and hard to defend when you can't get within 5 feet of the man you're defending.

    Watch the tapes, it wasn't as bad as the Kings, but it was close.

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    Tough to score when you got hacked every possession and hard to defend when you can't get within 5 feet of the man you're defending.

    Watch the tapes, it wasn't as bad as the Kings, but it was close.
    Stop making excuses, they choked with a chance to go to the Finals, bad officiating or not. Maybe bad officiating can make a slight difference in the outcome but not 25-4 over a 10 minute span.

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    Pippen was so underrated he cost the Bulls a trip to the Finals in 1990 with his awful performance against the Pistons.

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    What has Lebron accomplished without Wade?
    He's dragged two atrocious lottery teams to Finals without Wade

    The real question is, what has Wade ever won without Shaq or LeBron carrying him? His resume as the alpha is about as bad as Kirby. Even with LeBron, he was so bad in 2013 that he needed TWO miracle clutch shots from LBJ and Ray Allen to bail out his career and legacy... then after taking the regular season off the following year, he was even worse in the playoffs

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    Pippen was so underrated he cost the Bulls a trip to the Finals in 1990 with his awful performance against the Pistons.
    He was so underrated that he dragged the Guests to what is still their last legit playoff run in franchise history as the alpha. Meanwhile, DK couldn't win a damn thing in his life without MVPippen

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    He's dragged two atrocious lottery teams to Finals without Wade

    The real question is, what has Wade ever won without Shaq or LeBron carrying him? His resume as the alpha is about as bad as Kirby. Even with LeBron, he was so bad in 2013 that he needed TWO miracle clutch shots from LBJ and Ray Allen to bail out his career and legacy... then after taking the regular season off the following year, he was even worse in the playoffs
    Kirby was the Alpha to two le teams. 'Nuff said. And Wade stepped into a rebuilding situation and endured one as Shaq left.

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    He was so underrated that he dragged the Guests to what is still their last legit playoff run in franchise history as the alpha. Meanwhile, DK couldn't win a damn thing in his life without MVPippen
    He also failed to be a leader to the Guests at the most crucial moment of that playoff run.

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    He was so underrated that he dragged the Guests to what is still their last legit playoff run in franchise history as the alpha. Meanwhile, DK couldn't win a damn thing in his life without MVPippen

    I know you have LeBron's nuts in your mouth to the point you look like a ing squirrel, but you should really know what you are talking about before you post.

    That Blazers' team had 7 excellent 3 point shooters, Steve Smith (39%), Damon Stoudamire (37%) Sabonis (36%). Schrempf (40%), Grant (50%), Anthony (37%), Wells (37%). Guess where Scottie's percentage was? (32%), second worst on the team next to Rasheed Wallace. Scottie was also 3rd on the team in rebounding. There were 4 players with a better PER than Pippen. Rasheed Wallace and Steve Smith scored more points in the playoffs than Pippen, Despite Pippen taking the second most shots on the team and only making 41% during the playoffs.

    Pippen alienated teammates in Portland just like he did in Houston. The only place he dragged teams were down. Going back and looking at the stats, It's funny that you omit the season Pippen went to Houston. Because even with Barkley and Hakeem, Pippen shot 32% in the playoffs, while taking the most shots on the team.
    Last edited by Alex's foreskin; 05-25-2015 at 12:13 PM.

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    Stop making excuses, they choked with a chance to go to the Finals, bad officiating or not. Maybe bad officiating can make a slight difference in the outcome but not 25-4 over a 10 minute span.
    Because the Lakers shot 37 FTs to 16 for the TrailBlazers, and that's throughout the game. The Lakers made that "come back" on the strength of an endless parade to the freethrow line.

    They still have that game on youtube, go check it out.

    It's just hilarious that whenever people try to put together a highlight reel of that 15 point comeback, nobody can actually find the plays, because who likes to watch Lakers go the FT line one after another to makeup a 15 point deficit?

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    Lebron will never surpass Jordan, get over it dude
    The truth. No matter how hard he tries to convince people, NO.

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    I know you have LeBron's nuts in your mouth to the point you look like a ing squirrel, but you should really know what you are talking about before you post.

    That Blazers' team had 7 excellent 3 point shooters, Steve Smith (39%), Damon Stoudamire (37%) Sabonis (36%). Schrempf (40%), Grant (50%), Anthony (37%), Wells (37%). Guess where Scottie's percentage was? (32%), second worst on the team next to Rasheed Wallace. Scottie was also 3rd on the team in rebounding. There were 4 players with a better PER than Pippen. Rasheed Wallace and Steve Smith scored more points in the playoffs than Pippen, Despite Pippen taking the second most shots on the team and only making 41% during the playoffs.

    Pippen alienated teammates in Portland just like he did in Houston. The only place he dragged teams were down. Going back and looking at the stats, It's funny that you omit the season Pippen went to Houston. Because even with Barkley and Hakeem, Pippen shot 32% in the playoffs, while taking the most shots on the team.
    People only posts what suits their so called argument (There is none really). Jordan came back to a bad Wizards team for Gods sakes, Pippen on a stacked Portland team never won a thing either. If you put MJ on that 00 Portland team they ring, no way he chokes that bad in the 4th Q like Pippen did against LA. Jordan never won a thing without Pippen he said, well Pippen never won a damn thing without MJ either did he? Some of his teams were stacked as well.

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    I know you have LeBron's nuts in your mouth to the point you look like a ing squirrel, but you should really know what you are talking about before you post.

    That Blazers' team had 7 excellent 3 point shooters, Steve Smith (39%), Damon Stoudamire (37%) Sabonis (36%). Schrempf (40%), Grant (50%), Anthony (37%), Wells (37%). Guess where Scottie's percentage was? (32%), second worst on the team next to Rasheed Wallace. Scottie was also 3rd on the team in rebounding. There were 4 players with a better PER than Pippen. Rasheed Wallace and Steve Smith scored more points in the playoffs than Pippen, Despite Pippen taking the second most shots on the team and only making 41% during the playoffs.

    Pippen alienated teammates in Portland just like he did in Houston. The only place he dragged teams were down. Going back and looking at the stats, It's funny that you omit the season Pippen went to Houston. Because even with Barkley and Hakeem, Pippen shot 32% in the playoffs, while taking the most shots on the team.
    LOL, I forgot Scottie played for the Rockets. I can't decide if he or Barkley was a bigger cancer. There goes another bad part of Scottie's legacy in my book.

    Because the Lakers shot 37 FTs to 16 for the TrailBlazers, and that's throughout the game. The Lakers made that "come back" on the strength of an endless parade to the freethrow line.

    They still have that game on youtube, go check it out.

    It's just hilarious that whenever people try to put together a highlight reel of that 15 point comeback, nobody can actually find the plays, because who likes to watch Lakers go the FT line one after another to makeup a 15 point deficit?
    Just stop it. What does any of that have to do with just scoring 4 points in 10 minutes with an NBA Finals berth on the line? They choked, plain and simple. Maybe they were aided in it but I don't wanna hear any excuses, I watched that game and unlike Lakers-Kings Game 6, I don't remember any horribly biased officiating that dramatically altered play in the game.

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    He's dragged two atrocious lottery teams to Finals without Wade

    The real question is, what has Wade ever won without Shaq or LeBron carrying him? His resume as the alpha is about as bad as Kirby. Even with LeBron, he was so bad in 2013 that he needed TWO miracle clutch shots from LBJ and Ray Allen to bail out his career and legacy... then after taking the regular season off the following year, he was even worse in the playoffs
    In other words his biggest accomplishment is defeating the Pacers and Hawks

    I am not impressed

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    Just stop it. What does any of that have to do with just scoring 4 points in 10 minutes with an NBA Finals berth on the line? They choked, plain and simple. Maybe they were aided in it but I don't wanna hear any excuses, I watched that game and unlike Lakers-Kings Game 6, I don't remember any horribly biased officiating that dramatically altered play in the game.
    Getting hacked on shots won't affect players from making them? Sabonis getting fouled out on TWO highly questionable calls, forcing the Blazers to put Grant on Shaq had no impact on their offense?

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    He was so underrated that he dragged the Guests to what is still their last legit playoff run in franchise history as the alpha. Meanwhile, DK couldn't win a damn thing in his life without MVPippen
    And he cost MJ a 7th ring with his choke job in the 1990 ECFs.

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    He was so underrated that he dragged the Guests to what is still their last legit playoff run in franchise history as the alpha. Meanwhile, DK couldn't win a damn thing in his life without MVPippen
    He wasn't even close to being their best player and that team was 10 deep and still came up small when it counted.

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    Getting hacked on shots won't affect players from making them? Sabonis getting fouled out on TWO highly questionable calls, forcing the Blazers to put Grant on Shaq had no impact on their offense?
    With all due respect, I don't care what you say. I watched that game just like you did. Questionable officiating is a part of the game. The fact is that they came unraveled, period. Even with all they had to overcome, that team was stacked enough to still score more than 4 points in 10 minutes with a berth to the NBA Finals on the line.

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    I say again, his legacy to me is 2000 Western Conference Finals Game 7, the fourth quarter most specifically.
    34 year old, post back surgery Pippen is supposed to turn black the clock and act like he's 27 years old? His body was already breaking down by '96 from the playoff/Olympic mileage. By 2000 he was clearly wasn't the same player.

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